AustralianFan Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, 2018 said: A lot can change till next year. If Sapporo is still in, I would reckon a double award would be in order. Also Calgary could in theory come back (wasn't there some noise about this a few weeks back?) Sapporo has not withdrawn …. yet, but the bid is on life support. The IOC have cancelled their visit to Sapporo and so that indicates that continuous dialogue has ground to a halt. The problem is that the bribery/sponsorship scandal is still unfolding. They still don’t know the full extent of it as the investigation proceeds and gets messier. With 7 years to go next year until the 2030 Games, Sapporo will run out of time, it’s that simple. No, there most definitely will not be a double awarding of the winter games. The IOC President said this himself recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 hours ago, 2018 said: A lot can change till next year. If Sapporo is still in, I would reckon a double award would be in order. Also Calgary could in theory come back (wasn't there some noise about this a few weeks back?) 1 hour ago, AustralianFan said: Sapporo has not withdrawn …. yet, but the bid is on life support. The IOC have cancelled their visit to Sapporo and so that indicates that continuous dialogue has ground to a halt. The problem is that the bribery/sponsorship scandal is still unfolding. They still don’t know the full extent of it as the investigation proceeds and gets messier. With 7 years to go next year until the 2030 Games, Sapporo will run out of time, it’s that simple. No, there most definitely will not be a double awarding of the winter games. The IOC President said this himself recently. Bach downplays chance of 2030 and 2034 Winter Olympics double award - 13July22 - Inside The Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2018 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 18 hours ago, AustralianFan said: Bach downplays chance of 2030 and 2034 Winter Olympics double award - 13July22 - Inside The Games That was when there was more than 2 bids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, 2018 said: That was when there was more than 2 bids... No. It is to do with his term as the IOC President due to finish in 2025 and he wants to leave the 2034 host choice under the watch of the next IOC President There will be no double awarding of the 2030 and 2034 Winter Hosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 I still think Sapporo could host 2030 and Salt Lake City for 2034. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 14 hours ago, SportLightning said: I still think Sapporo could host 2030 and Salt Lake City for 2034. Yes, that still remains a possibility, but the 2030 and 2034 hosts will most definitely not be awarded at the same time. The IOC President has already this not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/News/2022/11/Schedule-IOC-EB-December-2022.pdf Future Host Commission is meeting on Dec 6, some time between 9 AM and 4 PM Central European Time, and Bach will deliver his press conference the following day, tentatively scheduled for 2 PM CET. It is my understanding that the situation with India's NOC f****ed the timeline for the 2030 bid process, but maybe something interesting can come out of next week's EB meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 9:30 AM, Bear said: https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/News/2022/11/Schedule-IOC-EB-December-2022.pdf Future Host Commission is meeting on Dec 6, some time between 9 AM and 4 PM Central European Time, and Bach will deliver his press conference the following day, tentatively scheduled for 2 PM CET. It is my understanding that the situation with India's NOC f****ed the timeline for the 2030 bid process, but maybe something interesting can come out of next week's EB meetings. I’m wondering if the IOC Presidentvmight make an announcement of say Sapporro and/or SLC being elevated to Targeted Dialogue for the 2030 Olympic Winter Games at that 7 December media conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Possible Timelines around 2030 to be presented Tuesday 06.12.2022 to IOC Executive Board At 25:28 in the press conference, is a journalist’s question around timelines and if 2030 Targeted Dialogue will be announced this meeting or in the Mumbai 27-28 May 2023 IOC Executive Board ? Christophe Rubi responds by saying that the Future Host Commission Report on the 2030 Olympic Games will be presented to the IOC Executive Board Tuesday 6 December 2022 and the press will learn of the outcome on Wednesday 7 December 2022. Further, Christophe Dubi said that today, Tuesday 6 December 2022, possible timelines around the 2030 Games will be presented to the IOC Executive Board. IOC Press Conference - 05.12.2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 BREAKING NEWS from the IOC Executive Board Meeting 2030 Winter Olympic Games a preferred 2030 Host/s will not be put to the IOC Session for election in Sept/Oct 2023 - this means 2024 at earliest for a Host Election. more time is being given to the Future Host Commission to consult and consider with all parties in a warming climate. a double awarding of 2030 and 2034 was discussed but no conclusion was reached as it requires more exploration. the three interested parties in Continuous Dialogue (Sapporo, Salt Lake City and Vancouver) have been informed today of these IOC EB discussion. this in line with the new flexible approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 I’m so glad the IOC has the luxury of taking this decision calmly and slowly after the urgency they faced to lock in 2032 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Award 2032 in 2021, then wait until probably 2025 to award 2030...ok Reading between the lines, I strongly suspect they're going to use the coming couple of years to come up with a rotation pool to announce all from 2030-whenever the pool runs out in one go. I'm not sure why they'd mention that if that wasn't a fairly serious plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, yoshi said: Award 2032 in 2021, then wait until probably 2025 to award 2030...ok Reading between the lines, I strongly suspect they're going to use the coming couple of years to come up with a rotation pool to announce all from 2030-whenever the pool runs out in one go. I'm not sure why they'd mention that if that wasn't a fairly serious plan. Interesting too that the warming climate is causing a seismic shift in everything Winter Olympics - as it should as the climate is warming. I think that the 2030 host will be elected in 2024, with 2023 being for further discussion and consideration of these issues, such as potentially having a pool of Winter Games hosts. Double awarding 2030 and 2034? think the odds of this happening has just shortened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 That seems like a big blow for the election of the 2030 Winter Games host. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) I wonder what the USOC/LA28 are demanding as compensation for the IOC to be baulking at biting the bullet with SLC? Edited December 6, 2022 by Sir Rols 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Sir Rols said: I’m so glad the IOC has the luxury of taking this decision calmly and slowly after the urgency they faced to lock in 2032 IKR! The irony of that makes the IOC appear more shady than they already are. Especially when the double-talk is back on-the-table now (I don't think it was ever off anyway), despite Bach downplaying that aspect back in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Taking this to 2024/25 could in theory reopen the door for a German 2030 bid looking at DOSB‘s own timelines. IN THEORY, I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, StefanMUC said: Taking this to 2024/25 could in theory reopen the door for a German 2030 bid looking at DOSB‘s own timelines. IN THEORY, I said. Considering a dual 30-34 award could be on the table, they might very well want to throw their hat in. … assuming that meets the approval of Bavarian farmers, of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 That's a new angle... make it fit with the German timeline to say to Munich 'vote yes, you're guaranteed '. Between Munich, Sapporo and SLC, do we have the potential beginnings of our "rotation pool"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 A TRIPLE-award!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, FYI said: A TRIPLE-award!!! Maybe it'll be like we do here where they award 2030, 2034, 2038, 2042, and just so they don't have to worry about it, 2058 as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karenina Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 It certainly seems like they don't have a lot of confidence in Sapporo at the moment. So, let's see what our potential 5-nation rotation looks like... Munich, SLC, Sapporo, Vancouver, and ??? Almaty? Oslo? Milan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Karenina said: So, let's see what our potential 5-nation rotation looks like... Munich, SLC, Sapporo, Vancouver, and ??? Almaty? Oslo? Milan? Those would have to be cities using student dorms for the OV -- not new construction each time. For North America, there would only be 3: SLC, Calgary and Vancouver. It's a wild guess for all the others; I don't know what appetite Japan and So, Korea would have as the Asian rep. Then, it would only be between No America and Europe: maybe Lillehammer? the IOC would have to invest a couple of billions to resurrect Sarajevo. And either Lausanne or Innsbruck as the Alpine rep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 hours ago, yoshi said: That's a new angle... make it fit with the German timeline to say to Munich 'vote yes, you're guaranteed '. Between Munich, Sapporo and SLC, do we have the potential beginnings of our "rotation pool"? Given climate change, German Alps venues will sooner than later struggle with that „temperature over 10 years“ criteria, anything beyond the 2030s may very well be unsustainable here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 2030 will definitely only be out of Sapporo, Salt Lake City and Vancouver already in Continuous Dialogue and elected in 2024, a bare minimum 6 years before the Games. That’s what he means by “later”. Clearly not enough time to consult widely, discuss, research, set-up, short-list, recommend and elect Winter Games Pool Hosts until well past the 2030 Host Election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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