2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids

[AustralianFan]

December is the key date when the candidate or candidates will be elevated to Targeted Dialogue.

 

 

[AustralianFan]

So we have 6 months to wait to learn who is going to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue in December 2022.

Then a further 6 months for the final 2030 Host Vote in Mumbai in May, 2023.

 

[AustralianFan]

 2030 Winter Games Host Election Timeline

So with this announcement by the IOC, the timeline to the 2030 Host Election can be expected to be as follows, based on the 2032 timeline:

Dec 2022 - IOC Executive Board Meeting

• between now and December, the IOC Future Host Commission will continue dialogue with the four candidates: Sapporo, Salt Lake City, Vancouver and Barcelona-Pyranees
• the IOC Future Host Commission for the Olympic Winter Games will prepare recommendations to the IOC Executive Board on which candidate or candidates should be elevated to the Targeted Dialogue phase
• if the IOC Executive Board accepts the recommendations, it will then hold a media conference to announce the elevated candidate/s to Targeted Dialogue.

Dec-Feb/Mar 2023 (approx.)

• the IOC Future Host Commission for the Olympic Winter Games commences Targeted Dialogue with the elevated candidate/s.
• the Commission can be expected to prepare a Feasibility Assessment,  send the Future Host Questionnaire Winter Olympic Games to each elevated candiate/s, receive/prepare the IOC Future Host Questionnaire Response, and finally prepare the Report of the Future Host Commission for the Winter Olympic Games to the IOC Executive Board - Targeted Dialogue (Candidate’s name) 2030”
• the IOC Executive Board can be expected to accept the Commission’s  recommendation/s and then the IOC will prepare for a Host Election to occur at the next IOC Session.
• a media conference at this point can also be expected

May 2023

• at the 140th IOC Session in Mumbai, India, the 2030 Host Election is expected to occur after the candidate presentation/s and a Q&A session. Then comes the winner announcement, signing of the Host Contract and a media conference.
• it’s entirely possible also for an election to also occur for the 2034 Winter Games, but that remains to be seen whether a double-awarding occurs or not.

[AustralianFan]

Just in ….

 

[AustralianFan]

Spot on.

 

[Quaker2001]

My thoughts exactly.  Almost seems a little too convenient that this news came down when it did

[AustralianFan]

Today at the IOC Executive Board Meeting:

 

[Quaker2001]

40 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Today at the IOC Executive Board Meeting:

 

"or later"

[baron-pierreIV]

Calling Almaty or Annecy . . . 

[fatixxx]

calling scandinavian-4 OR

maybe a triple-alps-combination SWI-AUT-GER.. 

france-maritime-alps are not so immediatly combinational with another countries

BUT

barcelona and/or annecy-courchevel could maybe work.. as mentioned in the mini applicant bc-file

[Quaker2001]

It's exceedingly unlikely we're going to see a new candidate for 2030, so let's get that notion out of our heads that the IOC can call up a city and magically whisk them into the discussion.  For 2034, sure.  Not for 2030.  Especially if it's some crazy multi-country bid that you're trying to make up on the fly.  Barcelona had their chance.  It didn't work.  It's a pipe dream to think they're still a viable candidate for 2030

[fusilli]

Or, they may spread it over the ones they already got: Milano 2026 and Cortina 2030! (or the other way round) 

[Quaker2001]

13 minutes ago, fusilli said:

Or, they may spread it over the ones they already got: Milano 2026 and Cortina 2030! (or the other way round) 

[fusilli]

^given the curcumstances.. get ready for more 

[Booville]

IF

Salt Lake City or Vancouver don't come off for 2030 and Sapporo's bid flounders due to the corruption scandal, I can easily see a 1976 occuring where a strong contender is directly approached.

I would not be surprised if the IOC went cap in hand to Oslo-Lillehammer. 2014 was a long time ago and humility from the IOC potentially could be persuasive. 

For Oslo-Lillehammer, with some slight changes to the infrastructure plan, all physical facilities exist. Unlike Munich, the other location with everything already there (the new SAP Arena would have been completed) but where there is political opposition, Norway would likely be more receptive. Another potential option would be Savoy (around Annecy) but this would likely require move investment, even if temporary facilities could be recycled from 2024.

Going cap in hand to an autocratic regime like Kazakstan would be another nail in the Winter Olympics coffin.

[yoshi]

I can see them going cap in hand to Pyeongchang. Same number of years as between the two Innsbruck games too. I think that's more likely than taking the risk of being rejected by Norway again, or taking any more drastic action to change the nature of the Games such as splitting indoor and outdoor events. 

[Quaker2001]

8 hours ago, Booville said:

IF

Salt Lake City or Vancouver don't come off for 2030 and Sapporo's bid flounders due to the corruption scandal, I can easily see a 1976 occuring where a strong contender is directly approached.

I would not be surprised if the IOC went cap in hand to Oslo-Lillehammer. 2014 was a long time ago and humility from the IOC potentially could be persuasive. 

For Oslo-Lillehammer, with some slight changes to the infrastructure plan, all physical facilities exist. Unlike Munich, the other location with everything already there (the new SAP Arena would have been completed) but where there is political opposition, Norway would likely be more receptive. Another potential option would be Savoy (around Annecy) but this would likely require move investment, even if temporary facilities could be recycled from 2024.

Going cap in hand to an autocratic regime like Kazakstan would be another nail in the Winter Olympics coffin.

We would all be shocked beyond belief if that happen.  There's no "easily" in any of this, and it's all almost certainly a moot point since Salt Lake is as rock solid a bid as they come.  Yes, we know the circumstances that the IOC perhaps doesn't want to use them for 2030, but they won't hesitate to do so if there are no other available options.  Not to mention that "a 1976" is generally defined as a city that has agreed to host the Olympics saying they no longer want to do it.  So that scenario requires a host to be selected first and for them to take that action. 

It needs to be said again.. the IOC cannot approach a city/country "cap in hand" to ask them to host an Olympics.  In a disaster scenario like what happened with Denver (which happened 4 years out from the games, not 7), only then will the IOC scramble.  When Denver bowed out, Whistler was initially in the discussion, but they declined.  Sion (runner-up in the voting to Denver) was given a shot, but they said no as well.  Salt Lake offered up a bid, then pulled that offer.

In the end, the IOC went with a former host, not a prospective bid that may or may not have been previously in the works.  yoshi is right.. they'd probably head back to PyeongChang, especially since the IOC is engaged with them for the 2024 Youth Winter Olympics.  It takes more than an infrastructure plan and a "pretty please" ask to engage a city/country.  They need to offer to organize it and that's not something likely to get thrown together on a very short timeline.  

[jawnbc]

After 3 OGs in Asia, I think the IOC would view Vancouver 2030 and SLC 2034 much more favourably. Better time zone for broadcasting, deeper pockets for sponsorships, a lot of existing venues in place. Dunno about Utah, but the Lower Mainland could definitely do with some additional housing stock: UBC, SFU, perhaps the North Shore. 

[SportLightning]

1 hour ago, jawnbc said:

After 3 OGs in Asia, I think the IOC would view Vancouver 2030 and SLC 2034 much more favourably. Better time zone for broadcasting, deeper pockets for sponsorships, a lot of existing venues in place. Dunno about Utah, but the Lower Mainland could definitely do with some additional housing stock: UBC, SFU, perhaps the North Shore. 

You forgot about 2026 which will be in Europe with Milano-Cortina, Italy.

[George_D]

so which city is the favourite here?

[SportLightning]

4 hours ago, George_D said:

so which city is the favourite here?

Sapporo

[AustralianFan]

Salt Lake City would have to now be hot favourite to host in 2030, 2 years after LA2028.

 

[AustralianFan]

 

 

52 minutes ago, 2018 said:

Darn shame. I wonder if the IOC will consider a double award now?

To who?   Only one left.

With Sapporo teetering on the cliff right now under the shadow of the bribery scandal and it’s trajectory looking very pessimistic,  there is only one viable prepared candidate left:

             Salt Lake City 2030

[2018]

22 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

 

 

To who?   Only one left.

With Sapporo teetering on the cliff right now under the shadow of the bribery scandal and it’s trajectory looking very pessimistic,  there is only one viable prepared candidate left:

             Salt Lake City 2030

A lot can change till next year. If Sapporo is still in, I would reckon a double award would be in order.

Also Calgary could in theory come back (wasn't there some noise about this a few weeks back?)

[SportLightning]

We'll see about that.