Sir Rols Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Okay, just came across this: NEW YORK, Sept 9 Reuters - The International Olympic Committee (IOC) may take another look at its decision to exclude softball from the 2012 London Olympic program. At a future general session the IOC could say: ``Hey, we want to have a second look at it,'' said president Jacques Rogge in an interview published in today's issue of the Around the Rings publication. ``That's possible.'' The IOC voted on July 8 to exclude baseball and softball from the Olympic program in 2012. Softball failed by one vote to obtain the majority necessary to stay on the schedule, the IOC said last month. US Olympic Committee (USOC) chairman Peter Ueberroth has called on the IOC to reconsider its decision. Ueberroth said in a statement last month that the IOC voting figures ``confirms what we had been told by many members of the IOC which is that the vote in Singapore was extremely close and there may have been confusion on the part of some voters. ``This also underscores our belief that the IOC, consistent with the spirit of fairness it has always shown, should reconsider this decision.'' Ueberroth said the USOC would continue to work to see that softball is reinstated in 2012. ``We cannot allow the Olympic dreams of women and girls worldwide to be put in jeopardy by a vote that was this close,'' he said. Ueberroth praised the IOC for increasing opportunities for women and girls to participate in Olympic sport. ``However, the decision to remove softball from the Olympic program stands in stark contrast to those important efforts and we respectfully believe it should be reconsidered,'' he added. Rogge told Around the Rings that IOC statutes prohibit the Olympic committee's executive board from overturning ``a sovereign decision by the IOC session''. ``Our charter is very clear that the EB (executive board) cannot take an initiative to say 'we want a new vote' because that would open up the door to all kinds of re-votes.'' ... REUTERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 i wish they would just add men's and women's softball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite_Olympics Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Excellent! :cool: It was a bonehead decision to remove it in the first place! Let's hope it's voted back in, along with baseball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 The reason they added 'softball' - NOTE, the name - softball - because this was the Equal Opportunity game to Baseball. So, why should they add a Men's Softball game? Duh. You just can't keep adding sports to the programme. Remember, they limit the partcipating athletes to about 10,000. Softball, esp., while it guarantees medals for the US, is such a boring game -- to watch. I mean base-softball are really North American games. Just as Americans find soccer a little slow and boring to watch, the rest of the world also finds baseball extremely boring to watch. I do. So I couldn't care less whether it/they return or completely disappear from the Olympic slate. No loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Just as Americans find soccer a little slow and boring to watch Given our ongoing argument about the hosts of the 2018 world cup, that is a very telling statement Mr Baron. :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Just as Americans find soccer a little slow and boring to watch Given our ongoing argument about the hosts of the 2018 world cup, that is a very telling statement Mr Baron. :: OK, here we go again! Well, that's nothing that you already don't know. But the country and its sports zeal is large enough so that in 1994, it STILL registered the MOST SUCCESSFULLY ATTENDED WORLD CUP IN HISTORY (some 3.56 million admissions sold) - which record may NOT, repeat, NOT be equaled or surpassed until 2010. And what about the so-called 'traditional soccer countries'? ANd this was with the host country only reaching the 2nd round. What more if it went to the finals? There is NO GREATER PROOF in the SUCCESS of an EVENT than in its PAID ATTENDANCE! 1994 World Cup Attendance statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its a bid of magic Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I'd much rather it be Cricket for 2012, than softball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruedan Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I'd much rather Softball be admitted back in... as well as Men's softball. And Netball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 The idea cracked under the pressure and this decision could lead the sport(s) to the way of tug-of-war: Olympic Programme For London 2012 Confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Just as Americans find soccer a little slow and boring to watch Given our ongoing argument about the hosts of the 2018 world cup, that is a very telling statement Mr Baron. :: Presumably Baron's changed his mind about 2018 and hasn't told us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Presumably Baron's changed his mind about 2018 and hasn't told us. No; not really. Many do. But there are also significant numbers who do watch and follow soccer; and who will fill the 2018 stadia -- as they did in 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Just checking you hadn't made some sort of resolution to not support any American World Cup bid. As for the topic itself, I certainly don't mind a lack of softball and baseball for 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Just checking you hadn't made some sort of resolution to not support any American World Cup bid.As for the topic itself, I certainly don't mind a lack of softball and baseball for 2012. Nice to know I'm on your mind insofar as a 2018 run. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 To be fair, I think you indirectly raised the issue. Anyway, attendances may be one thing. A World Cup final in the heat of the day made for a horrible spectacle in 1994 and must not be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Anyway, attendances may be one thing. A World Cup final in the heat of the day made for a horrible spectacle in 1994 and must not be repeated. well, I didn't set it. Oddly, the 1984 football finals between France & Brazil, also held at the Rose Bowl, started much later; and I remember it was around 8:00 pm when I got caught up in the outbound traffic. For 2018, I would probably go for a late PM, when the sun is setting. But I don't know how FIFA would take to that. Aren't other finals also in the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Normally they're evening finals. In Japan it was an evening final local time, (lunchtime UK time). The problem the US has is that if they choose to play the final in LA much later than midday local time, that makes it late night in Europe. Perhaps the final could be played in New York instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Normally they're evening finals. In Japan it was an evening final local time, (lunchtime UK time). The problem the US has is that if they choose to play the final in LA much later than midday local time, that makes it late night in Europe. Perhaps the final could be played in New York instead. Yeah, conceivably it could be in NY -- at the new Giants Stadium, supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 That would certainly be better than Los Angeles again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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