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1 hour ago, FYI said:

Are you sure that you’re not related to a certain dart boy? You know who else wouldn’t have bothered with a referendum? Erzurum - but the IOC said “thanks, but no thanks. But thanks for playing anyway”.

Nah, he's not.  If he was O.F., the post would have continued with..

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I think Almaty 2026, Salt Lake 2030, Sapporo 2034, Argentina 2038, then having run out of cold weather locations, Antarctica 2042, Moon 2046, Uranus 2050.  Because that's where I pulled this all out of.

 

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18 hours ago, StefanMUC said:

Well, it drifted OT pretty fast already, we’re still on the first page!

That’s not a first around here, either (especially now that it’s 25 replies to a page). But the good news is, we’re now on the second page!! :lol::P

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The IOC has ‘advised’ CONI & Milan that they should use the track in Innsbruck or St. Moritz to keep cost down. Whether they’ll listen is a different story. They still want to heavily refurbish the one in Cortina. Milan also needs to build a couple of skating rinks. That’s why many were saying that Turin was the better option, as far as readily available venues were concerned.

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3 minutes ago, FYI said:

The IOC has ‘advised’ CONI & Milan that they should use the track in Innsbruck or St. Moritz to keep cost down. Whether they’ll listen is a different story. They still want to heavily refurbish the one in Cortina. Milan also needs to build a couple of skating rinks. That’s why many were saying that Turin was the better option, as far as readily available venues were concerned.

Kinda what I thought.   The alpine venues are ready.   The jumping hills are there however no real sledding track.   I think Milan have enough arenas to accommodate hockey, figure skating and short track however the long track is what they need

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36 minutes ago, Maximf83 said:

I think Milan have enough arenas to accommodate hockey, figure skating and short track however the long track is what they need

From my understanding, Milan would still need to build, in addition to the speed skating oval, two more arenas for ice hockey & another one for curling. All of which Turin already has just sitting there & that Milan doesn’t need once the Games are gone & would come at a huge financial cost.

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5 hours ago, mattygs said:

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Funny that they would call it Candidate "City" when clearly 2 locales are named.  I guess the Swedes still have to come out with their logo?  

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The IOC can advise Milan and Cortina all they want. Would the Swiss even accept using the track at St. Moritz after the overwhelming defeat of the Sion bid at the ballot box? For all the talk about how MIlan and Cortina fit the New Norm and Agenda 2020, there still isn't a budget, which when released is likely going to be a lot higher that predicted. The whole point of including Turin was because they had most of the venues from 2006 that likely only needed a bit of touch up anyway. Turin could've hosted while using the sliding track in Cortina, yet they let pride get involved when MIlan was inserted into the mix which needs a speed skating oval and another ice hockey arena which won't come cheap (I am assuming the Olympic Ice Stadium in Cortina will host short track and figure skating). When the budget comes out, it would not surprise me in the least if a No Olympics movement springs up and we hear talk of a referendum again.

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11 hours ago, stryker said:

Would the Swiss even accept using the track at St. Moritz after the overwhelming defeat of the Sion bid at the ballot box? 

I pondered that myself before (along with Innsbruck, which was also ‘suggested’ by the IOC to use with a Milan bid). But was countered that it’s only one venue, versus a full-scale Winter Olympics.

Considering though, how vehemently Switzerland (& Austria) has rejected Olympic bids over & over again, I’m not so sure. Even if it is just ‘one venue’. 

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With Italy giving the guarantees and Sweden not yet (well Latvia did).  It's pretty much a done deal, unless a miracle happens in the next week

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35 minutes ago, Maximf83 said:

With Italy giving the guarantees and Sweden not yet (well Latvia did).  It's pretty much a done deal, unless a miracle happens in the next week

There have been way too many instances in this whole saga we thought things were a done deal.  Let's wait til we get to June before we consider the race over.  A lot of people would have figured Stockholm would be dead in the water already.  Thus far, they aren't.  It would take far less than a miracle for them to wind up with the Olympics

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I would be extremely surprised at this point if Sweden pulled out all their cards for this. The Swedish gov’t two years ago said that they weren’t interested & that they wanted no part of it, & it looks like they still aren’t. That was the case with 2022, too. It’s the SOC that’s been stubbornly keeping this bid in the limelight.

I can’t see anything changing all that much there by June that hasn’t happened already. The deadline has already been extended once, & with Italy now committing, if Sweden were to then also ignore the second deadline, then that really wouldn’t bode well as far as them coming around. 

There’s also the matter of the low public support in Sweden, 55% over Italy’s 85%. That’s a huge difference, which would have an impact of where the Swedish gov’t will want to go, or not go in this case. 

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On 4/6/2019 at 11:59 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

I think Stockholm-Are 2022 should now do a Swexit from the IOC!  ;)

Well, there’s still no word on the guarantees from them, so..

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On 4/5/2019 at 6:24 PM, FYI said:

I would be extremely surprised at this point if Sweden pulled out all their cards for this. The Swedish gov’t two years ago said that they weren’t interested & that they wanted no part of it, & it looks like they still aren’t. That was the case with 2022, too. It’s the SOC that’s been stubbornly keeping this bid in the limelight.

I can’t see anything changing all that much there by June that hasn’t happened already. The deadline has already been extended once, & with Italy now committing, if Sweden were to then also ignore the second deadline, then that really wouldn’t bode well as far as them coming around. 

There’s also the matter of the low public support in Sweden, 55% over Italy’s 85%. That’s a huge difference, which would have an impact of where the Swedish gov’t will want to go, or not go in this case. 

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If you would have told me there would be not one, but two European countries seriously in it given all thats gone down, I would have said you were high.  Ill take my crow right now though.  Im sure the IOC couldnt be happier.  Italy doesnt surprise me.  Sweden.........sure as hell does.  Just when you think theyre out of it, they pull you back in.

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Well, that is a turn of events. But now the question is, as much as the IOC wants Sweden, will they still be willing to take the Games to a place where the people there hardly want them (Stockholm), or to a place where the overwhelming majority of the people do want them (Italy). 

Historically speaking, the IOC doesn’t like to take the Games where less than 65% of the people want them. And Sweden still falls quite a bit below that threshold. Or can we still have TWO “winners” come June in Lausanne!! :lol::P

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3 hours ago, FYI said:

Well, that is a turn of events. But now the question is, as much as the IOC wants Sweden, will they still be willing to take the Games to a place where the people there hardly want them (Stockholm), or to a place where the overwhelming majority of the people do want them (Italy). 

Historically speaking, the IOC doesn’t like to take the Games where less than 65% of the people want them. And Sweden still falls quite a bit below that threshold. Or can we still have TWO “winners” come June in Lausanne!! :lol::P

Or, just throwing this out there as a possibility.. we won't. :ph34r::rolleyes::unsure:

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