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Will Beijing 2022 & LA 2028 be the last Olympic Games?

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Have the Olympic Games just become too grand that sensible people/cities just no longer want to be associated with it?  Have they outlived their usefuless?  Are there TOO MANY sports extravaganzas?

Discuss!

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6 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Have the Olympic Games just become too grand that sensible people/cities just no longer want to be associated with it?  Have they outlived their usefuless?  Are there TOO MANY sports extravaganzas?

Discuss!

O course Not they can just go with Almaty Kazakhstan in 2026 let's be real the only reason why they did not bid cause they thought there would be No way their will be 3 Winter Asian Olympic Games in a row they will easy be open to host the 2026 Winter Games this plan can keep the Winter Games going on for a while still.

Almaty Kazakhstan 2026 - USA or Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA 2030 - Sapporo Japan 2034 - Santiago Chile 2038 

The Summer games are in a good shape

2032 is shaping out to be a battle of Asia if Europe don't get it's act together the 2036 games could be in South America

Shanghai China or Jakarta Indonesia 2032 - Lima Peru or Buenos Aires Argentina 2036 - 2040 could be Asia or Europe.

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But you know, it feels like a tired OLD game.  Yeah, there will be a few dictator-led lands that will want to put it on -- but who's playing who?  Almaty and the Koreas will put it on -- NOT for the love and glory of pure sport -- but because they will be showcases for the further glorification of the Almaty leader (whoever that one is).  Of course, Rocket-Boy will claim exaggerated credit for part in a joint Olympic hosting -- even if NoKor will probably host only 20% of the events.  

The WOGs just feels like, of the pair, the dirtier and smellier sock that nobody wants.  

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6 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

But you know, it feels like a tired OLD game.  Yeah, there will be a few dictator-led lands that will want to put it on -- but who's playing who?  Almaty and the Koreas will put it on -- NOT for the love and glory of pure sport -- but because they will be showcases for the further glorification of the Almaty leader (whoever that one is).  Of course, Rocket-Boy will claim exaggerated credit for part in a joint Olympic hosting -- even if NoKor will probably host only 20% of the events.  

The WOGs just feels like, of the pair, the dirtier and smellier sock that nobody wants.  

I think it's with Europe it's mainly the current generation of politicians in power and the massive internal problems in Europe the games does not feel old and tired the pressers which Europe is going under have not seen for a very long time, It's best for the IOC to not worrie about Europe for the next 20 years things should chill down in Europe by the end of the next decade, Let's be honest the Calgary 2026 bid team was very inept they could of run a better campaign and won the vote it was very much the bid team. 

I would write Europe off until 2042 for future Winter Games Budapest Hungary could make a bid to host the 2032 or 2036 Summer Games now that Viktor Orban got super majority constitutional changing powers right now they could write in the Hungarian constitutional to host the 2032 or 2036 games as a way to bypass a public vote and get the IOC on side.    

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If the IOC was any interested in having another dictatorship hosting the (Winter) Olympics, then they just would’ve let Erzurum stay in the race. It would’ve been much easier than re-opening the bid process. Especially when what’s the point in that anyway, when the bids the IOC really want are the ones that are dropping out like flies. It’s pointless to do that. Thom boy will be calling Sarah soon enough to save the (2026) day anyway.

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.....I agree it's the decline of europe in general that has ripped the cloak of strength and legitimacy away from the IOC. Their foundation has been kicked out from under them.

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8 minutes ago, paul said:

.....I agree it's the decline of europe in general that has ripped the cloak of strength and legitimacy away from the IOC. Their foundation has been kicked out from under them.

The IOC can go to non European Western countries such as Chile, Argentina and New Zealand for the Winter Games, We are very close to having the Winter Games in the Southern Hemisphere Santiago Chile will be very busy for the next 5 years with the Pan American and Parapan American Games in 2023.

But after that I could see them really going for the Winter Olympic and Paralympics Games it will be very tough for them to compete with other Latin American cities for the Summer Games so the winter games will be there best bet Santiago Chile could indeed host the Winter Games sometime in the 2030s.  

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2022 Beijing 

2026 SLC 

2028 LA

2030 Sapporo

2032 the Koreas’

2034 Sochi

2036 Moscow

2038 Gangneung 

2040 Shanghai

2042 Zhangziakou

2044 Nagoya

2046 SLC

2048 LA

2050 Nagano

2052 the Moon

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The Olympics certainly won't go away, they will establish a system of permanent hosts well before they completely do away with the Olympics. With the Summer Games, they could rotate around the six continents, using say, Los Angeles, Rio, Paris, Johannesburg, Tokyo and Sydney, meaning it will be 24 years in between a city's edition of the Games, allowing for a change over time in artistic and presentation elements, but not having massive financial risks. Winter could adapt a similar shuffle concept, just not as continent-based, as Oceania and Africa are completely ill-equipped.

 

I do not support this, though, and I do not think it will even come down to that (yet). What I really see happening, is the IOC giving to Milan-Cortina if they make it to the voting, just because Stockholm's political situation is very rocky and with such a spread out bid, they may want to test a largely-spread Winter bid somewhere else rather than Stockholm-North Sweden-Latvia. If both fall through, SLC or Denver will likely get it. But, with the 2026 Olympics, 2026 World Cup, and 2028 Olympics in the USA, the European and Asian nations will want cracks at it themselves to show that everything shouldn't be American-based. The US games, will, hopefully reconstruct the idea of how to finance and budget for an Olympics, it will just be imperative that the US does not try to overdo it. But, I then see 2032 being basically handed to a European bid that goes through, with 2030 given to Oslo if they can make it as well. Boom, we recreated the late 1970s/80s era.

 

"It's the end of the Olympics!" was said before, and look what happened. 

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Oh geez. All of that totally ignores what crises the IOC is in TBW. We’ve never even had an African Olympics in the 130 year history of the IOC, to suddenly have them as part of a “rotation system”. Same goes for South America - let’s not forget how many are so critical of Rio 2016 ITFP. 

As far as the U.S. ‘hopefully reconstructing the idea of how to finance & budget for an Olympics’ - Boston 2024 wasn’t it, for example. And no reforms that the IOC would implement would change the amount of work a city like Boston would have to do in order to host an Olympics. 

As for 2026 (or 2030), it’s really SLC or bust for the U.S. If the USOC were dumb enough to even try with Denver, they’ll be in for another wild ride like Boston 2024. Or as we just saw with Calgary 2026, & they coulda done it without too much fuss or overdoing it, but they still said “thanks, but no thanks”.

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6 hours ago, anthonyliberatori said:

 But, with the 2026 Olympics, 2026 World Cup, and 2028 Olympics in the USA, the European and Asian nations will want cracks at it themselves to show that everything shouldn't be American-based. 

Is that these same European nations that are bidding in their masses with great public and government support for 2026 because they want „to show that everything shouldn‘t be Asian-based“?

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Maybe Calgary failed because it was a really boring bid, and maybe Agenda2020 is failing for the same reason........the Olympics need to stay huge and just go to places that can afford it. Austerity makes for a depressing party.

 

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The Olympics will be rotating between  Russia, China & South Korea, where thrifty is a bad word when it comes to the Games, & where the IOC will know that the show will go on no matter what.

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Pierre de Coubertin must of seen the decline of Europe one day in the future that is why he did not want a permanent host if we go more then 30 years without a European Winter games then so be it, The Asian and Latin American markets are on the rise and it's time for the IOC to take advantage of that market. Maybe in the 2040s they could go back to Europe a back to back Chilean and Argentina Winter Games could be good sometime in the 2030s/40s.

Right now the markets and internal pressers in Europe is not in a great shape it's things could improve in the next 10 to 20 years but it's best to avoid Europe Almaty Kazakhstan 2026 - USA or Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA 2030 - Sapporo Japan 2034 - Santiago Chile 2038 would be the best course of Action for the IOC. 

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2 hours ago, Olympianfan said:

Pierre de Coubertin must of seen the decline of Europe one day in the future that is why he did not want a permanent host if we go more then 30 years without a European Winter games then so be it, The Asian and Latin American markets are on the rise and it's time for the IOC to take advantage of that market. Maybe in the 2040s they could go back to Europe a back to back Chilean and Argentina Winter Games could be good sometime in the 2030s/40s.

Right now the markets and internal pressers in Europe is not in a great shape it's things could improve in the next 10 to 20 years but it's best to avoid Europe Almaty Kazakhstan 2026 - USA or Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA 2030 - Sapporo Japan 2034 - Santiago Chile 2038 would be the best course of Action for the IOC. 

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He must have a brother, too, cuz that post right before your second to last meme, very O.F. sounding. :lol:

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11 hours ago, paul said:

Maybe Calgary failed because it was a really boring bid, and maybe Agenda2020 is failing for the same reason........the Olympics need to stay huge and just go to places that can afford it. Austerity makes for a depressing party.

 

I like your thinking and mojo, Paul!! 

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2032 could go to Asia/Oceania. Got a feeling Brisbane has it in the bag. Brisbane 2032 was given the green light yesterday. 

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6 hours ago, BigVic said:

2032 could go to Asia/Oceania. Got a feeling Brisbane has it in the bag. Brisbane 2032 was given the green light yesterday. 

Shanghai China or Jakarta Indonesia more likely then Brisbane, With Africa no longer being in play for 2030s South East Asia will be more likely be the next new horizon for the IOC to go too Indonesia did an amazing job with the Asian Games as the back up host they are ready to host the Olympic and Paralympics Games, Mass transit development is going on in Jakarta right now should be all done by 2030.

Jakarta Indonesia is in the Southern Hemisphere too which will help in the bid first time in Indonesia the 4th largest country in the world booming economy first time in SEA Indonesians per cap are richer then China was when they got the hosting rights in 2001.

Shanghai China a major city with the largest metro population of the city in the world in likely be the number one economy in the world by 2032 with rapid developments in the city with the urbanisation project likely be done by 2030 in China the financial hub in the super power economy which hosted the 2010 World Expo a Chinese games in 2032 first outside of Beijing will really finish up the job in making China the super power. It would be like if New York City hosted the 1948 or 1952 Games.

Queensland is having troubles with even building a coal mine right now imagine what they will be like with building stuff for games related stuff the Gold Coast 2018 Commonwealth Games was a embarrassment for Australia it will be go back to Melbourne or go to Perth for the next Olympic Games in Australia.  

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On 11/18/2018 at 12:59 PM, hiroamorim said:

After three bids they're more than prepared. Go Madrid, it's your time now..........Resultado de imagem para spanish dance gif

Spain still has too many troubles now. And a risk they might get the next anti-EU government very soon if Ciudadanos and Vox keep getting more support. PM literally called a snap election in April because they're worried about their growing popularity.

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