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The Argentina Olympic Committee (COA) says it has launched a feasibility study to investigate a possible Olympic and Paralympic Games bid to be held in 2030, or in 2026 if the opportunity presents itself. Ice events would be staged in Buenos Aires and the snow events would be held in Ushuaia, considered the southernmost city in […]

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I think Argentina-Buenos AIres should stage EVERYTHING!!  Winter 2026, World Cup  2030, Summer Games 2032, Asian Games 2027, European Games 2031, Pan African Games 2023.  Oh yeah, lighting of the Flame, too in a new, "fake" New World "Olympia."  What did I miss?  

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The only southern hemisphere games that would even be remotely possible would be either New Zealand, or Australia/New Zealand, and even that would need to undergo a hell of a logistical preparation in winter events that neither of them have done yet.  Could they? yes of course, would they eventually?  I hope so, but thats a 2034 or later games at best

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On 11/2/2018 at 8:00 PM, thatsnotmypuppy said:

Santiago in Chile could host if the IOC allowed a Winter Olympics in August/September/October.

Only problem is you wouldn't be getting all the cold & flu medications, the ski manufacturers, all the traditional winter products companies, as sponsors.  That's the big downside for the IOC (and NBC) in holding an Aug-October WOGs.  And then of course, the calendars for the ISU, and all the winter sports would have to be re-calibrated for this drastic shift away from February.  The calendar would favor the southern hemisphere athletes; and the winter Northern hemisphere nations wouldn't go for that.  Also, being a WC year, it would be too close to the traditional June-August sked for the Men's WC.  So that's why a Chile, NZ, Argentina WOGs is a pipe dream for the present.  

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1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Only problem is you wouldn't be getting all the cold & flu medications, the ski manufacturers, all the traditional winter products companies, as sponsors.  That's the big downside for the IOC (and NBC) in holding an Aug-October WOGs.  And then of course, the calendars for the ISU, and all the winter sports would have to be re-calibrated for this drastic shift away from February.  The calendar would favor the southern hemisphere athletes; and the winter Northern hemisphere nations wouldn't go for that.  Also, being a WC year, it would be too close to the traditional June-August sked for the Men's WC.  So that's why a Chile, NZ, Argentina WOGs is a pipe dream for the present.  

If Europe is bailing out in hosting the Winter Games if Calgary Votes NO and the USOC do not want the 2026 Winter Games then they can't say when the games are held so tough love, I think the 2026 Plan B cities will be either Sochi Russia or Almaty Kazakhstan, Then take the road down South to Santiago Chile, New Zealand then come to Mendoza Argentina, Build Winter sports hub training centres in the Southern Hemisphere.

The IOC has got to be open to date changes if they want more cities to bid for the games Chile, New Zealand and Argentina are all Western countries and will be in very safe hands for the IOC to go to for a few while it might mean going to Southern Hemisphere to keep the games going on while Europe goes through it issues and for a new generation to take over the governments.  

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56 minutes ago, Olympianfan said:

If Europe is bailing out in hosting the Winter Games if Calgary Votes NO and the USOC do not want the 2026 Winter Games then they can't say when the games are held so tough love, I think the 2026 Plan B cities will be either Sochi Russia or Almaty Kazakhstan, Then take the road down South to Santiago Chile, New Zealand then come to Mendoza Argentina, Build Winter sports hub training centres in the Southern Hemisphere.

The IOC has got to be open to date changes if they want more cities to bid for the games Chile, New Zealand and Argentina are all Western countries and will be in very safe hands for the IOC to go to for a few while it might mean going to Southern Hemisphere to keep the games going on while Europe goes through it issues and for a new generation to take over the governments.  

Safe hands?  Puh-lease.  No country that has to build all that infrastructure from scratch can be considered safe. Did you notice how much grief the World Cup got for the date change in 2022?  Do you really think that's a route the IOC should go.  It's a terrible idea for a number of reasons including ones that baron mentioned.

And enough with the "if you say no to the Olympics, you can't decide where they are held."  That's a massive steaming pile of bullshit.  Canadian IOC members shouldn't have a vote because the folks in Calgary didn't have their act together?  Yea right, that will go over really well.

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11 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Only problem is you wouldn't be getting all the cold & flu medications, the ski manufacturers, all the traditional winter products companies, as sponsors.  That's the big downside for the IOC (and NBC) in holding an Aug-October WOGs.  And then of course, the calendars for the ISU, and all the winter sports would have to be re-calibrated for this drastic shift away from February.  The calendar would favor the southern hemisphere athletes; and the winter Northern hemisphere nations wouldn't go for that.  Also, being a WC year, it would be too close to the traditional June-August sked for the Men's WC.  So that's why a Chile, NZ, Argentina WOGs is a pipe dream for the present.  

 

This is probably the most important reason why it will not be.  A majority of the athletes themselves will not be as properly up to scratch in training during that time of year.  It would be interesting rhetorically see how the athletes adapted themselves.  im sure the elite athletes with sponsors and such would be okay and would be able to train into the summer, i would guess it would harm the little guys a lot more who dont have constant access.  Would probably see a a few more  Kiwis and Aussies on the podium though as a result of it though.  Of course its harder to sell a winter games to casual observers in the northern hemisphere during july, august too.

 

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Lmfao at O.F. What a ninny.

Anyway, Sochi 2014 & Vancouver 2010 were quite mild, relatively speaking, than past Winter Olympic hosts. Judging by that, looks like the only immediate place that could be similiar to that in the Southern Hemisphere in February is Kosciuszko, AUS & then maybe Christchurch, NZ. But Christchurch would be really pushing it, winter weather wise.

South America looks like is really out in February for the Winter Olympics - too warm. Unless it’s Ushuaia. But again there, too remote & too small to warrant all the building that would need to be done there.

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1 hour ago, mountainboarder_530@yahoo. said:

This is probably the most important reason why it will not be.  A majority of the athletes themselves will not be as properly up to scratch in training during that time of year.  It would be interesting rhetorically see how the athletes adapted themselves.  im sure the elite athletes with sponsors and such would be okay and would be able to train into the summer, i would guess it would harm the little guys a lot more who dont have constant access.  Would probably see a a few more  Kiwis and Aussies on the podium though as a result of it though.  Of course its harder to sell a winter games to casual observers in the northern hemisphere during july, august too.

Training is the least of the concerns.  Many athletes will go to the Southern Hemisphere to train during the Northern summer because there's only so much they can do in the usual training bases when it's warm outside.  Sure, those with more resources are better positioned to do that, but that won't be the major concern.

baron hit on it.. the issue is the competition calendar.  Many of the sport federations have their World Cup season as the lead up to the Olympics.  So they're not going to be fans of having their usual schedules only to have the biggest event on the calendar being separated by 3-4 months from all other competitions.  Aside from what that means for the athletes, it's a bad way to do business.  And it's unlikely that any outdoor venues will be able to attract significant top level competition in July or August, so there's little hope of them being the kind of world class venues that are easier to find in the northern hemisphere.

So for all of this nonsense (granted, most of it is coming from 1 dumbass poster) about how the IOC will have to be willing to accept a bid from a southern hemisphere country, what IOC voter with any allegiance to the sports federations will endorse that?  Which begs the question.. why would they try in the first place?

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On 11/5/2018 at 2:30 AM, FYI said:

Lmfao at O.F. What a ninny.

Anyway, Sochi 2014 & Vancouver 2010 were quite mild, relatively speaking, than past Winter Olympic hosts. Judging by that, looks like the only immediate place that could be similiar to that in the Southern Hemisphere in February is Kosciuszko, AUS & then maybe Christchurch, NZ. But Christchurch would be really pushing it, winter weather wise.

South America looks like is really out in February for the Winter Olympics - too warm. Unless it’s Ushuaia. But again there, too remote & too small to warrant all the building that would need to be done there.

Kosciuszko - as a region - wouldn't be able to do it (anywhere in Australia would be a stretch). However, if the mountain/dates issue could be resolved it would only happened anchored to Canberra. If not Canberra (and taking Stockholm's recent ideas around distance), Melbourne or Sydney could be possibilities for a WOG.

Christchurch/Queenstown is still the winner for an Oceania WOG.

The above, with Mendoza (Argentina) and Santiago (Chile) means the Southern Hemisphere is possibility a big circuit breaker for the Winter Games. 

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If I remember correctly, Australia does not have a mountain with required 800m vertical drop. As for New Zealand, much like Argentina and Chile, I don't think there's enough of a winter sports market locally to sustain any venues long-term, not to mention if New Zealand thinks the CWGs are too expensive, then the WOGs are a nonstarter.

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5 hours ago, spiele said:

Kosciuszko - as a region - wouldn't be able to do it (anywhere in Australia would be a stretch). However, if the mountain/dates issue could be resolved it would only happened anchored to Canberra. If not Canberra (and taking Stockholm's recent ideas around distance), Melbourne or Sydney could be possibilities for a WOG.

Christchurch/Queenstown is still the winner for an Oceania WOG.

The above, with Mendoza (Argentina) and Santiago (Chile) means the Southern Hemisphere is possibility a big circuit breaker for the Winter Games. 

1 hour ago, stryker said:

If I remember correctly, Australia does not have a mountain with required 800m vertical drop. As for New Zealand, much like Argentina and Chile, I don't think there's enough of a winter sports market locally to sustain any venues long-term, not to mention if New Zealand thinks the CWGs are too expensive, then the WOGs are a nonstarter.

Facilities are the least of the concern.  It's the calendar that will be the issue.  Unless the sports federations are okay with having the Winter Olympics during summer in the Northern Hemisphere (to say nothing of being in close proximity to the World Cup), then it's a non-starter.

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9 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

Facilities are the least of the concern.  It's the calendar that will be the issue.  Unless the sports federations are okay with having the Winter Olympics during summer in the Northern Hemisphere (to say nothing of being in close proximity to the World Cup), then it's a non-starter.

If FIFA and the IOC come together they could be ok with 2034 FIFA World Cup in November - December with Australia and New Zealand hosting Santiago Chile host the 2034 Winter Games in July - August, The sports federation could be ok with the date change to help with setting up a Summer base in Chile for Winter games training in July.

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3 hours ago, Olympianfan said:

If FIFA and the IOC come together they could be ok with 2034 FIFA World Cup in November - December with Australia and New Zealand hosting Santiago Chile host the 2034 Winter Games in July - August, The sports federation could be ok with the date change to help with setting up a Summer base in Chile for Winter games training in July.

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On 11/7/2018 at 2:03 AM, Quaker2001 said:

Facilities are the least of the concern.  It's the calendar that will be the issue.  Unless the sports federations are okay with having the Winter Olympics during summer in the Northern Hemisphere (to say nothing of being in close proximity to the World Cup), then it's a non-starter.

Then enjoy the event folding into oblivion. We (the south hem) don't care that much - was just trying to help. 

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5 hours ago, spiele said:

Then enjoy the event folding into oblivion. We (the south hem) don't care that much - was just trying to help. 

People like Quaker and FYI would rather No Games then it going down South. Under this plan the games could go into way into the future without going to Europe let's be real Europe is on the decline now it's time to go to new markets the safe market is now in the Asia pacific region in the world. International federations will wake up and smell the possible money for new markets of 400 Million people in South America and grow the Asian Winter market more by having the winter games in Australia and New Zealand.

The Asian middle class is rising which is great for the sports market, They can do this without going to Europe for a while Almaty Kazakhstan 2026 - Salt Lake City or Denver USA or Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA 2030 - Sapporo Japan 2034 - Santiago Chile 2038 - New Zealand 2042 - North America 2046 - Harbin China 2050 

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6 hours ago, spiele said:

Then enjoy the event folding into oblivion. We (the south hem) don't care that much - was just trying to help. 

So you think the Winter Olympics will fold into oblivion if not from help from the Southern Hemisphere?  Yes, I understand it's not a big deal to folks in countries like Australia and New Zealand and Argentina and Chile.  But you're asking 1 of those countries to make an investment in Winter sports infrastructure in the billions of dollars.  I don't see any of them doing that and expecting a return on their investment.  The issue of the calendar is simply too difficult to overcome to expect everyone to be on board with that.  We saw how many folks tied to FIFA lost their minds about the calendar switch for the 2022 World Cup.  It would be even worse to try and do that with the Winter Olympics, IMO.

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1 hour ago, Olympianfan said:

People like Quaker and FYI would rather No Games then it going down South. Under this plan the games could go into way into the future without going to Europe let's be real Europe is on the decline now it's time to go to new markets the safe market is now in the Asia pacific region in the world. International federations will wake up and smell the possible money for new markets of 400 Million people in South America and grow the Asian Winter market more by having the winter games in Australia and New Zealand.

The Asian middle class is rising which is great for the sports market, They can do this without going to Europe for a while Almaty Kazakhstan 2026 - Salt Lake City or Denver USA or Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA 2030 - Sapporo Japan 2034 - Santiago Chile 2038 - New Zealand 2042 - North America 2046 - Harbin China 2050 

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This plan?  Picking locations for the next 7 Winter Olympics isn't a plan.  Not a good trade-off to write off 740 million people of Europe (in countries that help support Winter sports outside the Olympics) and think there's money coming from the 420 million people of South America, more than half of which are in Brazil, which probably won't be much interested in helping.

Again, the Southern Hemisphere is not the solution to get the Winter Olympics to thrive again.  Asia certainly, but North America and Europe need to be a part of that much more than Australia and New Zealand.  There's a reason those markets have shown little to no serious interest in hosting a Winter Olympics.  It doesn't make sense for them.  And may never make sense for them.

 

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So if there is a winter games in the southern hemisphere, Why does everyone assume it to be hosted in July-August? This is probably a stretch, but they could, maybe, host the Olympics itself from April-May and then the Para May-June. It averages about 62f in April and 57.2f in May. Not that far off from Sochi. Maybe the IOC could contribute money toward movig snow?

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38 minutes ago, Dezcrafty said:

So if there is a winter games in the southern hemisphere, Why does everyone assume it to be hosted in July-August? This is probably a stretch, but they could, maybe, host the Olympics itself from April-May and then the Para May-June. It averages about 62f in April and 57.2f in May. Not that far off from Sochi. Maybe the IOC could contribute money toward movig snow?

The issue there is that it's before the winter rather than after.  So they'd be asking them to get set up in the late summer/early fall.  That's asking for trouble, especially to keep snow suitable for competition.

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1 hour ago, Dezcrafty said:

Then maybe try importing it from the north hemi, or, gulp, Antarctica.

How much is that going to cost them?  At some point, it almost no longer makes sense to try and hold an Olympics in Argentina if it's that difficult for them to get snow there.

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