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On 5/10/2019 at 3:34 AM, stryker said:

Christophe Dubi said hosting the Olympics in Calgary would cost nothing (it's not the first time he's had speaking gaffes and if the IOC was smart they'd keep him as far from a  microphone as possible).  While the targeted approach makes some sense, I still think if the IOC wants Australia (and I think they do as the media market is simply too large not to go back to) they are aiming at the wrong city. A Brisbane bid would be far too costly with too many unused venues (Brisbane does not need another 600,000+ stadium). I've said it before that Melbourne is their best most cost-effective option. Yes I am aware of the weather issue, but if the IOC is willing to bend the bidding rules they can bend the time frame for a few weeks. This Australia not Qatar. Australia has the media market to make it work.

... and yet neither Melbourne, nor any other Australian city or region is making any moves toward a bid.  So let go of Melbourne,  they’re not bidding. End of story.

 I’m a Melbourne resident and I know Melbourne have not yet shown any interest in a bid for 2032 or any other games.

We are now in the Agenda 2020 era. 

A 2032 Brisbane/SE QLD bid has been shown to be very feasible under Agenda 2020.  

In Australia, only Brisbane and South East Queensland are making any moves ahead of a possible bid.

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IOC Vice President Hints 2032 Olympic Games Could Be Awarded In 2020, And To Australia

Credit: Posted on Gamesbids.com By Robert Livingston June 13, 2019 11:14 am in Featured, Future Summer Bids
 

International Olympic Committee (IOC) Vice President John Coates hinted Thursday that the 2032 Olympic Games could be awarded as early as next year, in 2020 – and he’s pushing for Brisbane in Australia to be named host.

“The election by the IOC of the host for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games would normally be taken “seven years before” that is, in 2025,” Coates, who serves as President of the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC), told the Future Tourism Forum in Brisbane.

“However, if proposed changes to the Games host election process are approved in 12 days’ time and there is a candidate ready to put its hand up, this election could be as early as the IOC Session in Tokyo next year before the opening of the Games on 24 July.”

Coates leads an IOC working group tasked with reforming the Olympic bid process, and last month his proposals were approved by the IOC Executive Board and will be put to a final member vote at a Session in Lausanne on June 25.

A key component of the new proposal is to remove the timing requirement from the Olympic Charter mandating the election of the host city seven years prior to the scheduled opening of the Games.

Instead, “election timings are to be flexible and adjusted to local opportunities, context and needs,” Coates said Thursday.

His comments have led local media to believe that Australia has the inside track to host the 2032 Games.

Coates was one of the key architects of the recent double-allocation of the Games to Paris 2024 and Los Angeles 2028, the latter being awarded eleven years ahead of the first scheduled event.

The IOC Vice President played up Australia’s chances for 2032, trying to convince politicians and stakeholders to jump at the opportunity.

“Australia and Queensland have the proven capability to host major sports events, including the Olympic and Commonwealth Games,” he said.

“The 2032 Olympic Games is there to win. I hope you will give it serious consideration.”

To back up his enthusiasm, Coates pointed to favorable public support, existing infrastructure and a suitable Winter climate in Queensland that will enable the Games to take place in the required July and August time frame.

He said the proposal was also cost effective when taking into account the USD $1.8 billion contribution from the IOC towards the operational budget.

A recent poll commissioned by the South-East Queensland Council of Mayors revealed that more than 74 percent of people believe a SEQ Olympic bid would accelerate the delivery of transport infrastructure.  Seventy-five per cent said they were likely to back an Olympic bid if it meant major transport upgrades would be delivered.

“The SEQ Mayors embarked on an investigation of an Olympic Games with the belief that it would catalyse all levels of government to address the lack of transport investment in the region, and create a firm deadline to ensure it’s delivered,” Brisbane Mayor Cr Schrinner said according to MyGC.com.au.

“The Council of Mayors (SEQ) is supportive of an Olympic Games only on the basis it delivers regional connectivity for the residents, businesses and visitors of SEQ. Both the SEQ Mayors and the community believe fast rail is key to fixing the region’s transport and congestion issues.”

Coates has said in the past that transport upgrades must already be planned before an Olympic bid could move forward.  But in the past, such major infrastructure projects that are time-boxed for Olympic Games delivery have been prone to major cost overruns, scope issues and delays.  This has been seen while preparing for recent Games in PyeongChang, Rio de Janeiro and Sochi – among others.

The IOC lauded Games concepts from Paris 2024 and Los Angeles 2028 because plans did not include any Games specific transportation projects.  However, a planned high speed rail project between the International Airport and Central Paris that was promised for the Games has been fraught with delays and will not be delivered by 2024.

Many nations have already expressed interest in bidding for the 2032 Games including Indonesia, China, India, Germany and jointly between North and South Korea.  Some of these nations have launched plans based on the expectation that the Games would be awarded in 2025.

 

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South-East Queensland's push to host the Olympics just got a little easier

By Tara Cassidy - ABC News, Australia: 27 June, 2019

CREDIT:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/queensland-olympic-games-bid-just-got-easier/11257178

The odds of South-East Queensland becoming host to an Olympic Games has been given a boost overnight, due to an overhaul of the Olympic Games bidding process.

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) approved key changes to electing future Olympic and Paralympic Games hosts at a session in Lausanne, Switzerland last night, allowing regions and countries to bid for the event.

In the past only individual cities have been able to apply.

The move is well timed for South-East Queensland's bid to host the 2032 Olympics.

The changes will also see the end of the requirement to determine a Games host seven years prior to the event.

IOC president Thomas Bach said the driving force that pushed the changes over the line was "the gap in public support".

Many taxpayers worldwide hold the view that holding the two-week sporting spectacle is too expensive a luxury. 

In turn, changes were made to improve the attractiveness of hosting a games, by easing the bidding process and becoming less costly.

"We will do that while maintaining the magic of the Games."

'It's a massive boost'

Brisbane Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner said he supported the new process, which not only strengthens South-East Queensland's chances of hosting a games, but increases the financial viability of bidding for many regions.

"The announcement by the AOC overnight is really positive, it's a massive boost, there's no doubt about it," he said.

"In the past the cost in bidding and hosting an Olympic Games were far higher.

Previously, candidates applying to host the 2018 and 2022 Winter Games spent in excess of $40 million, compared with the $7-10 million spent by each candidate of the 2026 games.

According to the Australian Olympic Committee, such prices will continue to be reduced.

Two permanent future Host Commissions for both summer and winter games will also be set up to oversee interest of potential bidders, assess feasibility and make recommendations on applications.

Australian Olympic Committee president John Coates said the commissions would "not necessarily wait until interested hosts come to the IOC, but will be pro-active and open minded to innovative proposals".

Mr Coates said the IOC signing off on the changes was one of the most "significant milestones", in 123 years of the modern Olympics.

"The Olympic Charter has now been changed to allow candidatures from multiple cities, from regions and countries, focused around existing sports venues," he said.

"Instead of a single Olympic village, there can be Olympic villages to ensure that athletes are accommodated in close proximity to their competition venues.

"Priority must be given to the use of existing or temporary venues, the construction of new permanent venues for the purpose of the Games will only be considered if a sustainable legacy can be shown," Mr Coates said.

Queensland Major Events Minister Kate Jones said while the benefits of hosting an Olympic Games shouldn't be underestimated, it would need national support from the public and all levels of government.

"This is significant, however, when you're looking at the largest sporting event in the world, you absolutely need the support of the Federal Government as we know this would involve significant investment," she said

"Queensland is different to other states where we have more people living outside of the capital city than any other state, so that's why any major event that we host has to benefit regional Queensland as well."

Earlier this year, the Council of Mayors (SEQ) said it would consider a multi-city bid for the 2032 games with events across Brisbane, the Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast, Ipswich, Moreton Bay, Logan, Redland and Toowoomba.

 

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IOC President Bach Impressed By Australian PM’s Commitment To Olympic Bid

Posted on 1 July, 2019,  11:51 AM by Robert Livingstone in Featured, Future Summer Bids

Australia’s bid to host the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games in Queensland received high-profile support on a powerful stage Sunday in Japan.

 On the sidelines of the G20 Summit being held in Osaka, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison met with International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Thomas Bach and Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) President and IOC Vice President John Coates met to discuss the fledgling bid led by Queensland state capital Brisbane.

Morrison, who’s government committed AUD $10 million towards preparing an Olympic bid said Sunday “A Brisbane Olympics has the potential to be a game-changer for southeast Queensland and my government will be there every step of the way,” according to The Australian.

“Just like in Sydney, a Queensland Olympics, led by Brisbane, would be an economic and job boom and would show off the entire state to the world.

“The Sydney Olympics set a new standard for the Olympic Games and the IOC still praise its success almost 20 years later.  I have no doubt that Queenslanders, in true Origin spirit, would want to go one better in Brisbane in 2032 and show the world ‘how good is Queensland’.

“But to achieve this, we all have to work together and show we are a united team, especially governments at commonwealth, state and local level.”

Bach was invited to the G20 meeting by Japan’s Prime Minster Shinzo Abe where the 2020 edition of the Olympics will be held in Tokyo.  It marked the first time an IOC President has addressed the powerful summit.

Later, Bach said “I was impressed by the clear and strong level of commitment of Prime Minister Scott Morrison and his government for Olympic Games in Queensland, Australia.”

“He made it very clear that Olympic Games would fit 100 per cent into his government’s ten years infrastructure planning. This early commitment and the well-known enthusiasm of the Aussies for sport are a great foundation for the Olympic Games 2032 in Queensland.”

While still early in the bid process, new bidding rules approved by the IOC last week stipulate that a host city or region could be elected at any time – putting new pressure on any cities that have been considering a shot at the 2032 edition.  Bids being mulled by other places including Jakarta in Indonesia, Germany, Shanghai in China, India and jointly between North and South Korea – that have until now been contemplating a 2023 application deadline – face new pressures to ramp up their projects quickly.

Coates said last month that the Australian bid could be considered for election as early as next year, though Bach later commented that that timeline is too aggressive.

Bach said “for sure there will be no election for 2032 this year and at this moment in time I can also not see it for next year.”

Coates said Sunday ““The Prime Minister made it very clear that he was enthused by what he heard at the meeting and that the Federal Government was ready to move forward.”

“Thomas Bach conveyed the new flexible approach the IOC has adopted to create a dialogue with potential Games’ hosts and for Games to be hosted in several cities or regions.

There’s no question a Games could be held in Queensland that suits this model.

“We have significant existing sports infrastructure across multiple locations in South East Queensland,” Coates added, naming locations such a Townsville and Cairns that could host preliminary events.

But he cautioned against a model that is too widespread.

“President Bach warned against spreading events too far, being mindful of comments from the athlete Members of the IOC, who are concerned about the loss of the magic for athletes from all 206 National Olympic Committees, coming together,” Coates explained.

“There needs to be sufficient accommodation for not only the teams but also technical officials, media and spectators, as well as additional broadcasting costs having to be considered.”

Coates outlined a plan to move forward with the bid quickly, including the formation of the leadership group, the completion of an economic feasibility study by the Queensland Government and finalization of the competition venue masterplan.

“There is no doubt [government leaders] understood President Bach’s message that the Games will pay for themselves, based on the IOC’s contribution of at least AUD $2.5 billion, ticket sales revenue and national sponsorships and licensing.”

 

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Morrison encourages Qld govt to 'get all in' on Olympics bid

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6058738309001

13/07/2019|2min

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has sung the praises of Queensland at the state's LNP convention in Brisbane on Saturday, encouraging its 2032 Olympics bid.

The Prime Minister has told the party faithful that 'Queensland is capable of achieving anything', and while the Sydney Olympic Games were the 'greatest games ever', Queenslanders 'will not let that stand'.

The state government also came under fire, accused of dragging its heels, with Mr Morrison announcing it's 'time for the Queensland government to get all in on this bid'.

As part of his push to back a 2032 Queensland Olympic Games, the Prime Minister nominated Sunshine Coast federal MP Ted O'Brien to build the bid.

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Not sure if this has been posted in another thread, but has the feasibility study been made public? Any preliminary venue plans?

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6 hours ago, thatsnotmypuppy said:

Interesting. Seems like that estimate of just over 5 billion is rather low. If I'm reading correctly, Brisbane is planning on two new arenas for gymnastics and basketball plus a new stadium? Seems like costs could get out of hand very quickly. Also not sure what arena would serve as an aquatics center like Rod Laver did for the world championships unless they plan on a temporary one like Tokyo is doing and Rio did but left it to rot. It would also make more sense to use some of the more problematic venues (rowing and slalom canoeing) from the Sydney Olympics.  I am also assuming that the much needed transportation upgrades aren't included and I've seen some reports that say without those planned upgrades the bid doesn't go forward. Even with the changes to the bidding process, it still seems like a big undertaking.

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Yes - the $5 billion is well and truly a fantasy figure.

The best bet would be a temporary pool for aquatics if FINA decide the Broadbeach option used for the Comm Games is a no go. The issue would be where to place it.  Chandler - where the existing aquatic centre and velodrome are located is in a highly built up residential area.  Access on a standard work day in peak hours is already a nightmare.

There are plans for a new arena (19,000 seater) in the central city area (above Roma Street Station) - so that may be technically not Games dependent. However the plans have stalled and don't seem any closer to construction.

The main stadium is problematic. QSAC Stadium is too old, would need a complete rebuild and is an awkward location. Metricon stadium on the Gold Coast worked well for the Comm games - but could you really sell a Games with the sporting event being in the suburbs of a satellite city?`

These problems can be fixed with money or the sporting federations compromising. The latter will not happen though.

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July 23, 2019  08:15am by Toby Crockford

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/premier-orders-10-million-study-into-potential-2032-olympic-games-bid-20190723-p529py.html

Premier orders $10 million study into potential 2032 Olympic Games bid

A $10 million state government study will crunch the numbers on a potential south-east Queensland bid to host the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the new inquiry would build on research already conducted by the south-east Queensland council of mayors into a potential bid from the region.

The study will examine potential venues, infrastructure that would need to be prioritised, as well as the funding required and where it would come from.

"This could be the greatest thing that has ever happened in Queensland," Ms Palaszczuk said.

“When we join together, we’re unstoppable. Imagine all levels of government, business and the community united behind the single goal of a Queensland Olympics.

"There are many benefits to hosting these games but I want to make sure we know the costs as well."

Ms Palaszczuk said the study's cost would largely be delivered in-kind by current staff and resources and matches the $10 million provided by the federal government.

The Queensland premier said the International Olympic Committee's decision to allow a bid from a region rather than a city was "game-changer".

However, the prime minister’s representative for the 2032 Olympic Games, Ted O’Brien, said he was sceptical of the state government's move.

"While I welcome Queensland’s commitment to match the Commonwealth’s $10 million to investigate a bid, the Palaszczuk government needs to join the federal government and local SEQ mayors backing the bid 100 per cent," he said.

"Prime Minister Scott Morrison has made it clear he’s in, boots and all, and the reservations of the Queensland government puts at risk our ability to secure first-mover advantage ahead of rival bidders."

"We need to show the IOC exactly how much SEQ is embracing this golden opportunity. I’ll be seeking to contact Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk today to discuss the bid."

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On ‎7‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 3:45 AM, thatsnotmypuppy said:

Yes - the $5 billion is well and truly a fantasy figure.

The best bet would be a temporary pool for aquatics if FINA decide the Broadbeach option used for the Comm Games is a no go. The issue would be where to place it.  Chandler - where the existing aquatic centre and velodrome are located is in a highly built up residential area.  Access on a standard work day in peak hours is already a nightmare.

There are plans for a new arena (19,000 seater) in the central city area (above Roma Street Station) - so that may be technically not Games dependent. However the plans have stalled and don't seem any closer to construction.

The main stadium is problematic. QSAC Stadium is too old, would need a complete rebuild and is an awkward location. Metricon stadium on the Gold Coast worked well for the Comm games - but could you really sell a Games with the sporting event being in the suburbs of a satellite city?`

These problems can be fixed with money or the sporting federations compromising. The latter will not happen though.

I assume the new arena is the much talked about Brisbane Live Arena. Seems like that would be the aquatics venue if Brisbane wants to go the route that Melbourne did for the world championships. The main stadium is a big problem. The study mentions a need for a rectangular stadium but for who? Without a permanent tenant post-Olympics it's destined to be another white elephant not to mention the plan relies on the often proposed but as yet has been demonstrated to be a failure Olympic Stadium with large amounts of temporary seating.  Isn't QSAC supposed to be demolished? I thought I read something about that a year or so ago. Metricon worked well for the CWGs but at 35,000 it's obviously too small for an Olympics not to mention the study doesn't include any AFL stadiums because they do not want to disrupt the season. All in all, a Queensland Olympics seems to be very sketchy in terms of venues required with defined legacies. 

In the era where there's a backlash against excessive government spending on the Olympics, the sports federations are and remain a big part of the problem. It's going to take a host city to flat out tell them no.

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There has been a lot of talk of Brisbane getting a 2nd NRL (Rugby league) franchise - however it is questionable if they will require their own home ground when Suncorp Stadium is often available.  A minor amount of clever scheduling should solve any issue there.  The Roar do not need a stand alone stadium and cricket/AFL is fine with the Gabba that is about to get another upgrade.

8 hours ago, stryker said:

I assume the new arena is the much talked about Brisbane Live Arena. Seems like that would be the aquatics venue if Brisbane wants to go the route that Melbourne did for the world championships. The main stadium is a big problem. The study mentions a need for a rectangular stadium but for who? Without a permanent tenant post-Olympics it's destined to be another white elephant not to mention the plan relies on the often proposed but as yet has been demonstrated to be a failure Olympic Stadium with large amounts of temporary seating.  Isn't QSAC supposed to be demolished? I thought I read something about that a year or so ago. Metricon worked well for the CWGs but at 35,000 it's obviously too small for an Olympics not to mention the study doesn't include any AFL stadiums because they do not want to disrupt the season. All in all, a Queensland Olympics seems to be very sketchy in terms of venues required with defined legacies. 

In the era where there's a backlash against excessive government spending on the Olympics, the sports federations are and remain a big part of the problem. It's going to take a host city to flat out tell them no.

 

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 AOC ENCOURAGED FOLLOWING MEETING OF 2032 OLYMPIC CANDIDATURE LEADERSHIP GROUP
08/08/19

The Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) has expressed confidence in Brisbane and Queensland mounting a compelling case to host the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, following the inaugural meeting of the 2032 Olympic Candidature Leadership Group in Cairns today.

The meeting, convened and chaired by Prime Minister Scott Morrison, was attended by the leadership group comprising Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, Chair Council of Mayors of South East Queensland (CoMSEQ) , Cr Adrian Schrinner, Member for Fairfax, Ted O’Brien MP, who will be the Prime Minister’s representative in delivering on the Commonwealth’s commitments towards a candidature, and AOC President John Coates AC.

Qld Tourism and Events Minister Kate Jones attended the meeting and will be Queensland’s second representative. President of the Queensland Local Government Association and Mayor of Sunshine Coast, Mark Jamieson also attended, and will be CoMSEQ’s second representative. AOC CEO, Matt Carroll will complete the Group.

 Mr Coates said the meeting reaffirmed the commitment from all levels of government and the AOC ahead of a first meeting as a group with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) President, Thomas Bach in Lausanne, Switzerland in September.

“Today was an outstanding start and strong display of unity."

 “My thanks and congratulations to the Prime Minister for his initiative in establishing the leadership group."

 “The leadership group will ensure a disciplined approach and alignment between all levels of government."

“We know Queensland and Australia has the capability and experience to host an Olympic Games in this country for a third time but must ensure that all planning is aligned with Queensland’s long-term requirements, particularly transport infrastructure, including fast rail, community well-being and grass roots sports."

 Mr Coates paid tribute to the Council of Mayors of South East Queensland (COMSEQ) in laying the foundations through the comprehensive feasibility study they commissioned and released last year, and the Queensland Government for their ready appreciation of the significant benefits that the Games can bring to all of Queensland. The Queensland Government Taskforce will now take this to the next stage.

“Recent changes to the Olympic Charter minimise candidature election costs and the election of a host is no longer limited to seven years before the particular Games. In the case of Los Angeles 2028 the City was elected eleven years before. Priority must be given to the use of existing and temporary venues. The construction of new permanent venues shall only be considered on the basis of sustainable legacy plans” Coates said.

“The IOC recently wrote to the Premier advising that while it is too early to forecast the IOC contribution to the successful staging of the 2032 Olympic Games, any potential candidates should base their feasibilities and forecast budgeting on the USD1.8 billion IOC contribution to the operating budget of the LA2028 Organising Committee.” Mr Coates concluded.

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I just don't understand how Brisbane can support Olympic facilities post-games. Queensland has a population smaller than Minnesota (over an area eight times larger), and Brisbane's metro area population is analogous to that of Minneapolis. And don't be fooled by overall pop numbers. Athens has a population density of 17,000 residents per square kilometer for the urban area and about 7,500 over its metro area while Brisbane has 145 residents per square kilometer

We've seen in the past what happens when cities build stadiums for the World Cup or Olympics and then consider the needs of local sports teams afterwards. None of the teams in Brisbane need a 60,000 seat Olympic Stadium, or a 15,000 seat arena.

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Basically the plan will spread the venues wherever possible and will have to include large amounts of temporary seating.  

Transport infrastructure is another huge issue to overcome and it won't be easy.

I'm more interesting in this "compelling case". Basically it is "we want the Games" - there is no sentimental, geopolitical or really rational reason to come to Brisbane apart from we're Australia and we do these things well and with minimum fuss. I suppose in this day and age that may be enough of a selling point. Brisbane - Your Games In Our Safe Hands lol

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On 8/12/2019 at 4:26 AM, thatsnotmypuppy said:

Basically the plan will spread the venues wherever possible and will have to include large amounts of temporary seating.  

Transport infrastructure is another huge issue to overcome and it won't be easy.

 

The feasibility mentioned a lot of venues with temporary seating that would be termed "community sports centres" post-Olympics.This is a vague legacy. How many community sports centres does the Brisbane metro area actually need and community sports centres are not exactly known for turning in profits unless you have permanent tenant. Seems like they'd bleed money post-Olympics. This isn't even taking into account the need for an Olympic Stadium. Factor in transportation upgrades and this could get very pricey well beyond the initial figures.

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11 hours ago, stryker said:

 How many community sports centres does the Brisbane metro area actually need and community sports centres are not exactly known for turning in profits unless you have permanent tenant. Seems like they'd bleed money post-Olympics. 

Things like public parks and recreational facilities generally lose money, but indirectly generate revenue through increased property values. Urban communities need public sports facilities for people to use for exercise and living in an area with good recreational facilities is more attractive, thus increasing real estate prices. To wit, the area around the Queen Elizabeth Park in London has seen a significant increase in property values since the development of the park. (Of course, that will in turn lead to complaints about gentrification.)

The concern is that the Olympics -and high profile sporting events generally- have generally struggled to produce community-based facilities. The technical requirements for Olympic venues and the requirements for community facilities are very dissimilar. Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre is a pretty good example of a grassroots dedicated athletic center. But I don't think there's any way it could have been temporarily expanded into an Olympic Stadium.

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2 hours ago, Nacre said:

 

The concern is that the Olympics -and high profile sporting events generally- have generally struggled to produce community-based facilities. The technical requirements for Olympic venues and the requirements for community facilities are very dissimilar. Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre is a pretty good example of a grassroots dedicated athletic center. But I don't think there's any way it could have been temporarily expanded into an Olympic Stadium.

I thought about this after my previous post. Olympic-sized venues often do not translate into community sports facilities. Rio's Carioca Arena complex was supposed to serve as the country's new Olympic Training Center, however most of it has remained mothballed. Different from a community sports center, but it shows the difficulty in converting an indoor competition arena into a facility with a completely different purpose (Hamburg also had the ridiculous idea of turning their proposed Olympic Gymnastics arena into a cruise ship terminal). A Brisbane bid would have the same problem. Did the Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre serve as the warm up athletics track for the Sydney Olympics?

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On 8/16/2019 at 3:52 PM, stryker said:

 Did the Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre serve as the warm up athletics track for the Sydney Olympics?

I think it partially did, along with a third track. But our Australian posters would likely know more than I do.

I do think the original London model of a permanent lower bowl and a temporary upper bowl might work, but it's never been done before and it would still leave a bigger than needed stadium. Community athletics in Brisbane shouldn't need any more than 1,000-2,000 seats, whereas the seating capacity of a full lower bowl would be at least 15,000.  So even that optimistic plan would force grassroot athletics in Queensland to maintain a stadium ten times the capacity it actually needs.

The option that would definitely not leave behind a white elephant would be a cricket/AFL stadium of 30,000 permanent seats and 30,000+ temporary seats. But Brisbane already has Brisbane Cricket Ground and Carrara Stadium for that purpose.

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I'm skeptical of the whole large-scale temporary seating concept as so far it hasn't been shown to work (London, Incheon, Qatar's WC Stadiums). Even if a stadium could be scaled down to 20-30,000 seats, it's questionable whether Brisbane even needs that. Unless I'm mistaken, the much-talked about second NRL franchise, the Brisbane Bombers, are planning to use Suncorp Stadium. Carrara Stadium was temporarily expanded for the CWGs athletics competition, but at just 40,000 is too small for the Olympics. It's a conundrum to be sure for Brisbane.

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On 8/19/2019 at 3:45 AM, Nacre said:

I think it partially did, along with a third track. But our Australian posters would likely know more than I do.

I do think the original London model of a permanent lower bowl and a temporary upper bowl might work, but it's never been done before and it would still leave a bigger than needed stadium. Community athletics in Brisbane shouldn't need any more than 1,000-2,000 seats, whereas the seating capacity of a full lower bowl would be at least 15,000.  So even that optimistic plan would force grassroot athletics in Queensland to maintain a stadium ten times the capacity it actually needs.

The option that would definitely not leave behind a white elephant would be a cricket/AFL stadium of 30,000 permanent seats and 30,000+ temporary seats. But Brisbane already has Brisbane Cricket Ground and Carrara Stadium for that purpose.

Yes the Sydney Athletics Centre served as a warmup track for the Sydney 2000 Olympics (but there was no third track).

 

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3 hours ago, Tulsa said:

Will it be Brisbane alone or Brisbane and Gold Coast ? 

It looks to be a Brisbane/South East Queensland bid that is being organised for the 2032 Games, which includes the Gold Coast. They may well utilise venues in other parts of Queensland and other states?

 

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Toowoomba will be used as well as the Sunshine Coast. Preliminary plans have the northern cities hosting football and there was talk of volleyball/basketball early rounds being staged outside of SEQ.

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22 hours ago, thatsnotmypuppy said:

Toowoomba will be used as well as the Sunshine Coast. Preliminary plans have the northern cities hosting football and there was talk of volleyball/basketball early rounds being staged outside of SEQ.

It  seems to be a spread bid. It could be more compact with only Brisbane and Gold Coast. Brisbane + Toowoomba + Sunshine coast + Gold Coast, it's to much if we compare with the latest summer Bids. Excepted this point, this bid could be a good one. 

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