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If Calgary Votes NO in 4 weeks time and the USOC don't agree to be 2026 plan B if Sweden and Italy drops out of the 2026 bid race will their be a joint bid by Montreal Canada and Lake Placid USA to host the 2030 Winter Games?

Montreal Canada and Lake Placid USA are the only two hours apart Montreal host the ceremonies and ice events and Lake Placid USA for the sliding and snow events the new Conservative Quebec nationalist government of Quebec could use the games as a outreach to Montreal as they only won 3 seats on the Islands of Montreal they could use the games is provide infrastructure boost to the city the only major things they will have to build is a speed skating arena and the games village, Upgrade the Montreal Olympic Stadium for the ceremonies and Lake Placid is upgrading the venues for the 2023 Winter University Games.

Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA could be a great place for the 2030 Winter Games, Two iconic host's of the Olympic movement 54 years from the Montreal 1976 games and 50 years from the Lake Placid 1980 games the games back to Eastern Northern America as well would be amazing. 

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24 minutes ago, Olympianfan said:

If Calgary Votes NO in 4 weeks time and the USOC don't agree to be 2026 plan B if Sweden and Italy drops out of the 2026 bid race will their be a joint bid by Montreal Canada and Lake Placid USA to host the 2030 Winter Games?

NO.

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1 hour ago, Olympianfan said:

If Calgary Votes NO in 4 weeks time and the USOC don't agree to be 2026 plan B if Sweden and Italy drops out of the 2026 bid race will their be a joint bid by Montreal Canada and Lake Placid USA to host the 2030 Winter Games?

Montreal Canada and Lake Placid USA are the only two hours apart Montreal host the ceremonies and ice events and Lake Placid USA for the sliding and snow events the new Conservative Quebec nationalist government of Quebec could use the games as a outreach to Montreal as they only won 3 seats on the Islands of Montreal they could use the games is provide infrastructure boost to the city the only major things they will have to build is a speed skating arena and the games village, Upgrade the Montreal Olympic Stadium for the ceremonies and Lake Placid is upgrading the venues for the 2023 Winter University Games.

Montreal Canada - Lake Placid USA could be a great place for the 2030 Winter Games, Two iconic host's of the Olympic movement 54 years from the Montreal 1976 games and 50 years from the Lake Placid 1980 games the games back to Eastern Northern America as well would be amazing. 

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The USOC wouldn’t back it, though. They’ll look at SLC, the obvious choice (& maybe Denver), before they’d back that cockamamie idea. Not to mention that would require dealing with two NOC’s, & what would the people & politicians of Quebec, Montreal & Lake Placid would have to say about it, too.

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4 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

I like it!!  A pre-cursor to FIFA-WC 2026 in the summer; and the combined Anglo-Franco character of those Games so reflect the Franco-Anglo make-up of the IOC.  I'd back this idea.  

Except he's talking about 2030, not 2026

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Where the new government of Quebec won only a few seats in Montreal is right across the road from Montreal Olympic Park it's a industrial area right now they could help transform that area build the games media and athletes village and the media village, They can use the Olympic Pool for Curling, Expand the Maurice Richard Arena for Figure skating and short track, Saputo Stadium can be used as the medal plaza, Across the road North from the Olympic Park they can build the speed stating arena and build a temporary Ice Hockey Arena which could be transformed into a school after the games. Build the media centre and the games village around that area too. Bell Centre is the other Ice Hockey Arena and Montreal Olympic Stadium for the ceremonies venue. 

That is Montreal side shorted.

The new government of Quebec want's to cut the size of the Montreal city government and if Calgary votes NO I think the new Quebec Premier will be happy to get the investment where Alberta don't. 

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Montreal the plan that they can do for the ICE events.

Ceremonies Montreal Olympic Stadium Capacity 61-66,000 

Medal Plaza Saputo Stadium Capacity 20,801 

Curling Olympic Pool Current Capacity 3,000 they can put down another 2,500 temporary seats on the other side of the pool to make it 5,500 seats.

Short Track and figure Staking Maurice Richard Arena current Capacity 4,750 expand it to 15,000 seats for the games and after the games down to 8,000 seats.

ICE Hockey Venue 1 Bell Centre 21,228

ICE Hockey Venue 2 Option A Quebec City Videotron Centre Capacity 18,259

ICE Hockey Venue 2 Option B Ottawa Canadian Tire Centre Capacity 18,652

The only venue that Montreal needs to build is a Speed Staking Arena there is no indoors Speed Staking Arena in Eastern Canada right now they can build a 12,000 seat venue either across the road from the Olympic Park or down at the Waterfront next to the games village they could do the games on a cheap $2 billion with Snow and Sliding events down at Lake Placid. 

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Been looking more into ski slops around Quebec they could have some snow events around Saint Sauveur which is a hour away from the Montreal Olympic Park, PyeongChang used some golf courses for the Cross country ski and biathlon, There are some hilly golf courses on Bizard Island which is near the main Airport in Montreal they can use for theses two events. 

Freestyle skiing, Snowboarding and some Alpine events can be held around Saint Sauveur.

Lake Placid could host the Men's big down hill Alpine events, Ski Jumping and Nordic Combined and the Sliding events based on 2018 18 of the 102 events will be down but if they build a Ski jumping hill around in Saint Sauveur they could get that down too 11 events in Lake Placid mainly Sliding events and some Alpine events.

3 Games villages need to be build in Montreal, Saint Sauveur and Lake Placid they pretty much can have all the medal ceremonies in Montreal.   

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46 minutes ago, Olympianfan said:

Been looking more into ski slops around Quebec they could have some snow events around Saint Sauveur which is a hour away from the Montreal Olympic Park, PyeongChang used some golf courses for the Cross country ski and biathlon, There are some hilly golf courses on Bizard Island which is near the main Airport in Montreal they can use for theses two events. 

Freestyle skiing, Snowboarding and some Alpine events can be held around Saint Sauveur.

Lake Placid could host the Men's big down hill Alpine events, Ski Jumping and Nordic Combined and the Sliding events based on 2018 18 of the 102 events will be down but if they build a Ski jumping hill around in Saint Sauveur they could get that down too 11 events in Lake Placid mainly Sliding events and some Alpine events.

3 Games villages need to be build in Montreal, Saint Sauveur and Lake Placid they pretty much can have all the medal ceremonies in Montreal.   

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Multi-country hosting only makes sense for countries that can't do the whole thing on their own. The Latvian Olympic officials want to partner with Sweden because Latvia cannot host the winter Olympics. Meanwhile the USA doesn't need Montreal. If upstate New York can host the mountain events with a big city, why wouldn't the USOC choose New York City to be the city?

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If the city-mountain distance will be less of an issue in future, it’d be great to see NYC hosting a Winter Olympics. Especially since their 2012 summer bid seemed to be a one-&-done affair - it’s always seemed silly (to me at least) that New York isn’t on that Olympic roll of honour. Imagine figure skating &/or hockey in Madison Square Garden. But that distance is long - longer than I imagined it was. Still more chance of Lake Placid teaming up with NYC than Montréal though :p

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If a city were to team up with Lake Placid, it’d have to be Albany (capital of New York state). The distance would only be half as far than NYC. Plus, I can remember some people saying that New York wouldn’t make a good Olympic host bcuz the Games would be swallowed by the city, & that was for the Summer Olympics. So a Winter Olympics would definitely be a blip on the Big Apple radar with the people who share that sentiment.

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3 hours ago, yoshi said:

If the city-mountain distance will be less of an issue in future, it’d be great to see NYC hosting a Winter Olympics. Especially since their 2012 summer bid seemed to be a one-&-done affair - it’s always seemed silly (to me at least) that New York isn’t on that Olympic roll of honour. Imagine figure skating &/or hockey in Madison Square Garden. But that distance is long - longer than I imagined it was. Still more chance of Lake Placid teaming up with NYC than Montréal though :p

To be clear, I don't think New York will happen. Someone once tried to donate $50 million to the city parks to build a velodrome and the city turned it down. New York is not an easy location for these kinds of projects even when they are funded privately for public benefit.

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On 11/22/2018 at 1:27 AM, intoronto said:

No way Montreal hosts any Olympics in the near future. After what 1976 did to them....

The cost for the Montreal Winter Games in the city will not be that high they will just need to expand the Maurice Richard Arena and build an speed staking arena which currently there is no indoors one in Eastern Canada I put the cost all up $350 million, The Quebec government could fund the Ski jumping centre, I'm sure this Quebec Conservative Nationalist government would love to get the investment which was planning to go to Calgary to Quebec they could even be open to building a sliding centre in Saint Sauveur Quebec as well.

Boisbriand will be a great place to build the Games village if there is just one village it will be half way between 40 mins to each games cluster at Montreal Olympic Park and Saint Sauveur the only two venues which will not be in the cluster or Montreal Bell Centre would be ICE Hockey venue two in either Ottawa Tire Centre or Quebec City Videotron Centre and a couple of events for Alpine skiing in Lake Placid..

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On 11/21/2018 at 10:10 PM, Nacre said:

To be clear, I don't think New York will happen. Someone once tried to donate $50 million to the city parks to build a velodrome and the city turned it down. New York is not an easy location for these kinds of projects even when they are funded privately for public benefit.

Money isn't the issue.  That little thing called "being interested" is the issue.  The USOC can't choose New York for a Winter Olympics unless New York is bidding for a Winter Olympics.  I can't see that kind of collaboration happening with Lake Placid.  Someone would need to propose that.  And because it would need to be privately backed, they'd have to fund it.  It's a pipe dream to believe that would come to fruition for reasons that have nothing to do with a velodrome

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44 minutes ago, Olympianfan said:

The cost for the Montreal Winter Games in the city will not be that high they will just need to expand the Maurice Richard Arena and build an speed staking arena which currently there is no indoors one in Eastern Canada I put the cost all up $350 million, The Quebec government could fund the Ski jumping centre, I'm sure this Quebec Conservative Nationalist government would love to get the investment which was planning to go to Calgary to Quebec they could even be open to building a sliding centre in Saint Sauveur Quebec as well.

Boisbriand will be a great place to build the Games village if there is just one village it will be half way between 40 mins to each games cluster at Montreal Olympic Park and Saint Sauveur the only two venues which will not be in the cluster or Montreal Bell Centre would be ICE Hockey venue two in either Ottawa Tire Centre or Quebec City Videotron Centre and a couple of events for Alpine skiing in Lake Placid..

This is the interior of Maurice Richard Arena.  How exactly is this supposed to be expanded.. 12562H.jpg?itok=Ke6613S2

And now Montreal would need help from either Ottawa and/or Quebec City to make it happen?  How spread out do you want this whole thing to be and then to say it'll be a mere $350 million to get it done.

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42 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

Money isn't the issue.  That little thing called "being interested" is the issue.  The USOC can't choose New York for a Winter Olympics unless New York is bidding for a Winter Olympics.  I can't see that kind of collaboration happening with Lake Placid.  Someone would need to propose that.  And because it would need to be privately backed, they'd have to fund it.  It's a pipe dream to believe that would come to fruition for reasons that have nothing to do with a velodrome

No, but my point is that speed skating is a similarly fringe sport. If someone stepped forward with the money to turn an abandoned warehouse or factory into a speed skating rink as happened with the velodrome, there would be plenty of people to block that as well. Finding land and local political support is an additional hurdle for the organizers to clear in New York City beyond fear of financial losses and distrust of the IOC.

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5 minutes ago, Nacre said:

No, but my point is that speed skating is a similarly fringe sport. If someone stepped forward with the money to turn an abandoned warehouse or factory into a speed skating rink as happened with the velodrome, there would be plenty of people to block that as well. Finding land and local political support is an additional hurdle for the organizers to clear in New York City beyond fear of financial losses and distrust of the IOC.

The world’s largest ice-skating center could be coming to the Bronx

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20180814/REAL_ESTATE/180819962/at-long-last-bronx-ice-megacenter-nears-deal-for-financing-developer-says

And there's a lot more than $50 million involved there.  The problem with building a velodrome is that there's not much else you can do with a venue like that than have it be a velodrome.  But take a lesson from the speed skating venue in Vancouver which now serves a lot of other functions.  Sell it that it would be used for speed skating during the Olympics and can be used as whatever else after that and you'd have a project that people would support.

That's the problem with Olympic venues is that there's often no legacy plan.  If you have a legacy plan, particularly one that can benefit the local community, the cost of a venue can be somewhat justified rather than viewed as something that won't benefit anyone expect the IOC bigwigs for their "three week party"

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