arwebb Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Budget problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Budget problems? I forget that these are Games not being held in North America. Of course!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceNarcissus Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Budget problems? I forget that these are Games not being held in North America. Of course!! And being that the Italian government has more facets than the Millennium Diamond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 IOC have to support countries which were insured by great catastrophes not only with money also with logistic etc so the athlets and coaches can start again with regular training and matches etc. These are first of all Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestina, Pakistan, the countries where Tsunami was, a lot of African countries and - New Orleans, of course. IOC should develop programs to give the athlets a new base for training and good results. This should happen in a very short period of time besides the OG in Torino 2006. This is a very serious job for IOC. People who do more sports don´t think on terrorism and the fight people to people with arms. This is important for the peace in the world and also for the image of the Olympic movement through sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 It is a good action that IOC is now doing to start with youth and children to start with anti-doping. When the athlets then are older they don´t have to do anything with doping. A second issue is the HIV/AIDS prevention which is an actual theme of IOC. It´s the best way that the athlets have a health live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 WADA is the International doping commission and can´t say that Torino 2006 is a problem between IOC and Italy. They have to support the strong laws in Italy. They have to use all possible chances to fight against criminal doping people. WADA has to set pressure to the international organisations. To say, that´s not our cup of tea is the wrong way. If tehy are acting like this we don´t need WADA. They have a responsibility for all athlets and they should be aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Doping always happens again in all kind of sports, also in team sports like football, cycling, tennis, nordic skiing. It doesn´t matter which kind of sport - it happens again and again. So a harder punishment could be imaginable. A long-time lock-out of the athlets as well as coaches and officials, which support doping, will help to reduce doping. All responsible people have to understand that the sport has to stay (or better to get) clean to eliminate criminalism. So the hard line of all organisations like IOC, FIFA, UEFA etc. in the whole world is the only way. Obviously with the support of the governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Latest news from IOC make me very happy. The want to follow the hard line during OG´s Torino 2006. This is excellent for all athlets etc. WADA will have a look at all athets and will find most of the people who use doping. That will bring the right people on top positions and not the dopers (as in past). For the future this will be still important to find those people at the beginning and to prevent the Games before they started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 FIFA also has started to punish dopers. See last news from the player from FC Middlesbrough. This should be a warning for all the others to be very careful. That´s the right way for all big sport organisations to have a look at their athlets and coaches to stay clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Also a good solution would be when UN or/and NATO will have a look at the security during OG´s. This should bring the cost´s also down. The host organisations can only win, the same as IOC as the sub-organisator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Also a good solution would be when UN or/and NATO will have a look at the security during OG´s. This should bring the cost´s also down. The host organisations can only win, the same as IOC as the sub-organisator. Don't presume that the UN or NATO would automatically get involved in every Euro/No. AMerican Olympics. #1 - The IOC is technically NOT a part of the UN. They may have some sort of lateral relations; but they are 2 totally independent organizations. #2 - NATO gets involved when asked. Greece apparently felt they needed NATO's help for the summer of '04. Italy, being one of the bigger Euro/NATO countries, has said it does NOT NEED NATO for the Turin Games. There is a matter of pride, zenica, involved in staging these Games. So some OCs and their mother Govt's might not want a NATO in there. Why are you so hung up on the cost of these Games? It is a given that these are multi-billion dollar parties that only MAJOR rich countries can afford. Small countries, unless they are exceedingly stupid, should NOT even think about an Olympics. They should just stick with an occasional film festival or a Chess or Scrabble tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 To solve security problem Beijing has "engaged" million of people without paying anything - this while reduce possible costs. Also the army will be used to actively being in the process. PC will also do the same, also they have hired youth sport clubs to also reduce possible costs - whren winning the bid for 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Torino wants to have the safest Games ever and offers a combination of army and police together with stronger laws (only for the period of the OG) to reduce risk of terroristic activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Torino wants to have the safest Games ever and offers a combination of army and police together with stronger laws (only for the period of the OG) to reduce risk of terroristic activities. And...? :suspect: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Baron, do we need safe Games, or not? What do you think? java script:emoticon(':laughlong:') smilie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 UEFA will do a new action against rassism in football. So all other organisations like IOC have to adopt the initiative against rassism in sport. Every reliable man has to support this program. So in future rassistic agression in sport will be prevented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 The Italian government want to have 9,000 agents inTorino for the security of the spectators, the athlets and the people from Torino to have secure OG´s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 It is excellent that IOC suspends it´s member Guy Drut because of his criminal financial behaviour. This should show the other big organisations the right way - it´s a sign to handle things like that the right way and find a correct solution immediately. These organisations do not need members like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 FIFA will earn from WC 2006 about 1.7 billion Euro.From this 1.2 billion are from TV-licenses, the rest are from 15 sponsors. For developing programs FIFA spends 65 million Euro. FIFA estimates for WC 2010 in South Africa and increase in income of about 40%. This is a lot of money which should be spend more for the poor national organisations. Also EU should support these organisations, in the whole world also in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Against doping all governments of all countries worldwide have to work together to bring out strong laws to finally get clean sport. It´s like the Kyoto-protocol which is necessary but not everyone is convinced. Discussions like today with Torino 2006 will then be no longer necessary. It´s ridiculous that some countries have stronger laws than IOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Beijing announces: several hundred policemen have been deployed to provide round-the-clock inspections at Olympic sites to crack down on possible illegal activities that would sabotage preparations for the Beijing 2008 Summer Olympic Games. Police will start to reemploy motorcycles in some densely populated areas, because they are more flexible for patrolling in the city’s hutongs and alleys. This is not really a big number of people for such a huge country. I´m not sure this will be enough. Maybe the do not count the millions of military people round the Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Italian´s hard drug laws will stay for Torino 2006. Also IOC has accepted this. A good decision as the sports world need clean Games. This brings the sport back to the spriit of Olympia and do not support the criminals. There will be about 1,200 tests during OG. In future all organisators of events have to follow this sign. So the spectators have the most fun and the sport has the right results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I'm afraid this probably won't prevent there being some positive tests in Turin. Then again, the Winter Games probably don't suffer from the sorts of credibility issues that can blight certain sports in the Summer Games from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 arwebb, you are right. Regarding Summer Games: actually it happened that Argentina´s tennis player Marino Puerta (27 years) was cought once again for doping. Punishment: 8 years locked out of tennis and he has to pay back 440,000 EUR. That´s the end of his career. I think this is a good decision and should be followed by other sport organisations. That´s the only we to minimize doping "sinners". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Eight years?? Now that's brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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