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Just for consideration, these are (Snaps of) the last olympic opening ceremonies in France

 And I guess the references of Asterix will be there, even they made a film related to Olympics LMFAO!!

 

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I love the opening ceremony from Albertville 1992. It's so unique, so different from what was done before (and after). It was the first opening ceremony I watched, I was 5, and I still remember how amazed I was. 

But I know for sure the opening for the 2024 games will be very different. I just hope it won't be too generic or cliché like what they gave us for the opening of the 2016 euro cup. 

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10 hours ago, JO2024 said:

But I know for sure the opening for the 2024 games will be very different. I just hope it won't be too generic or cliché like what they gave us for the opening of the 2016 euro cup. 

Some of it will be.  That's the whole point of Ceremonies -- you put on stuff that is associated with the host's culture.  Yes, they may be cliche, but why will you put on stuff that only developed in one person's head?  It shouldn't be very cerebral.  It's a celebration and for many young, first-timers tuning in, what may be cliched stuff to veterans will be fresh to many first-time viewers.  After all, the message you want to give is that these Games are taking place in ____ (your case, France), so yeah, show off the recognizable trademarks of French culture that show off well as visual spectacle.  

Ooops.  Macron getting ready for 2024 too early??? :blink:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-25/french-president-macron-s-makeup-costs-prompt-criticism 

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On 25/08/2017 at 1:43 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\  Albertville 1992 was just tres, tres BIZARRE.  Not much that made my spirit jump or rise.  

I do not know how it looked like on TV but as a spectator it was just one of the greatest shows I have seen.

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54 minutes ago, hektor said:

I do not know how it looked like on TV but as a spectator it was just one of the greatest shows I have seen.

Oh, I'm sure it was very Hieronymous Bosch/Cirque du Soleil - but what did it have to do with hosting the Games in the Savoie region?  At least the Trolls and Yetti used in Lillehammer were tied to being part of the folklore of northern Norway.  What did the bizarre presentation of ALbertville have to do with the locale or the Olympics -- other than "let's show them how bizarre we can be!"  :blink:  I mean, for me, eccentricity only goes so far.   And those bubble/snow globe outfits the placard-wearers used, were among the most idiotic and ridiculous ones I've seen.  Bizarreness for the sake of bizarreness is no criterion to mount a show on.  Besides, it's not truly unique anymore in the annals of Ceremonies.  Cirque du Soleil seems to have co-opted that very feature with every new show of theirs.  

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I think you have only partial memory of the ceremony (remembering the bungee cord dance and so on). The local element was present, both in terms of music and shows on stage. You had all the local dance groups from the whole area brought to the ceremony for instance. You had horn players, traditional clothes and so on.

For me there was a correct balance between grounded, local stuff and universal things.

Of course you had not the mustached, beret and baguette Frenchman.

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From the new video of presentation, I thought they would use more celebrities in the references, but from the acting category only appeared Jean Dujardin, with Teddy Riner and Neymar. It would be interesting if by 7 years also.Dujardin takes part of.the ceremony (After all, his new partner is an Olympic medallist :P)

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Currently i'm rediscovering some options for the mastermind of the Ceremonies:

Xavier Dolan - Well, he's from Quebec but he's currently working in France. His films usually brings full scheme of cinematique images and rythms with music and some of his ads and music videos have been acclaimed for that.

Marjane Satrapi - Just her work in her graphic novels.

Luc Besson - Not the greatest option in narrative, but coming with the line of Zhang Yimou-Danny Boyle-Fernando Meirelles in visual style and he can offer spectacle.

Robin Campillo - Albeit he made small dramas (btw, watch BPM), he offered talent in visual style

 

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On 12/26/2017 at 3:44 AM, Roger87 said:

Currently i'm rediscovering some options for the mastermind of the Ceremonies:

Xavier Dolan - Well, he's from Quebec but he's currently working in France. His films usually brings full scheme of cinematique images and rythms with music and some of his ads and music videos have been acclaimed for that.

Marjane Satrapi - Just her work in her graphic novels.

Luc Besson - Not the greatest option in narrative, but coming with the line of Zhang Yimou-Danny Boyle-Fernando Meirelles in visual style and he can offer spectacle.

Robin Campillo - Albeit he made small dramas (btw, watch BPM), he offered talent in visual style

 

Or they may open it to an int'l competition to seasoned Special Events companies like for Athens 2004, Beijing 2008 (at the start, anyway), Vancouver 2010, etc.  And remember, there are going to be 4 Ceremonies, so split them up to various creative teams (as in Sochi).  It's really futile at this time to even conjecture who will guide the Ceremonies efforts.  

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28 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Or they may open it to an int'l competition to seasoned Special Events companies like for Athens 2004, Beijing 2008 (at the start, anyway), Vancouver 2010, etc.  And remember, there are going to be 4 Ceremonies, so split them up to various creative teams (as in Sochi).  It's really futile at this time to even conjecture who will guide the Ceremonies efforts.  

Did I miss something? 4 ceremonies? 

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31 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Or they may open it to an int'l competition to seasoned Special Events companies like for Athens 2004, Beijing 2008 (at the start, anyway), Vancouver 2010, etc.  And remember, there are going to be 4 Ceremonies, so split them up to various creative teams (as in Sochi).  It's really futile at this time to even conjecture who will guide the Ceremonies efforts.  

Are you referencing 2 for the Olympics and 2 for the Paralympics? 

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On 26/12/2017 at 11:44 AM, Roger87 said:

Currently i'm rediscovering some options for the mastermind of the Ceremonies:

Xavier Dolan - Well, he's from Quebec but he's currently working in France. His films usually brings full scheme of cinematique images and rythms with music and some of his ads and music videos have been acclaimed for that.

Marjane Satrapi - Just her work in her graphic novels.

Luc Besson - Not the greatest option in narrative, but coming with the line of Zhang Yimou-Danny Boyle-Fernando Meirelles in visual style and he can offer spectacle.

Robin Campillo - Albeit he made small dramas (btw, watch BPM), he offered talent in visual style

 

Claire Denis?

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Philippe Decoufle could still be an option. Many still consider the Albertville ceremonies very bizarre (and for good reasons), but at the same time they were one of the most innovating and creative back in the day. I think they perfectly represented the overall creativeness of french culture. However, I don't know if his style could still work well on today's time.

Franco Dragone, who has a similar directing style, was in charge of the 2010 Odesur Games opening which wasn't too bad. Then, he did the 2014 World Cup opening which we all know it was a gigantic mess, even for WC ceremonies standards. 

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On 2/25/2018 at 12:54 PM, baron-pierreIV said:

Or they may open it to an int'l competition to seasoned Special Events companies like for Athens 2004, Beijing 2008 (at the start, anyway), Vancouver 2010, etc.  And remember, there are going to be 4 Ceremonies, so split them up to various creative teams (as in Sochi).  It's really futile at this time to even conjecture who will guide the Ceremonies efforts.  

It's an interesting change over the last little while with how ceremonies productions are structured. 

I'm not sure on who I would suggest for an artistic director for Paris, but if they were to use any ceremony for inspiration I think to an extent Melbourne 2006 commonwealth games opening ceremony wouldn't be a bad one as food for thought. Something kind of whimsical , based on chance encounter around Paris,  a little quirky, romantic, inspirational and grand.

 

 

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2 hours ago, mattygs said:

 

It's an interesting change over the last little while with how ceremonies productions are structured. 

I'm not sure on who I would suggest for an artistic director for Paris, but if they were to use any ceremony for inspiration I think to an extent Melbourne 2006 commonwealth games opening ceremony wouldn't be a bad one as food for thought. Something kind of whimsical , based on chance encounter around Paris,  a little quirky, romantic, inspirational and grand.

The French are so quirky in their artistic choices.  I think who they pick to do the Handover segment might be a clue or a try-out for who might eventually be the Main Creative Force for the Big Show in 2024.  I have a feeling Marco Ballich, Tsypin and Papaioannou will make a play for Paris.  

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I was thinking of Papaioannou too actually, I just wonder if the French would go for an international creative.  I imagine it would upset people, but to be honest on the basis of his Baku work I think he would produce a well balanced show. 

I don't believe there are many French large scale event production companies, with the exception of ECA2.  I think the only major ceremonies development they have done are the Athens Paralympic ceremonies. They're tend to specialise more in open air public events rather than a stadium theatre production. 

 

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Albertville was OK. I liked that OC as well as the parade the French did previous to the 1998 WC. I'm sure they will be innovative, above all after so much technology shown from 2018 to 2022. My bet is on a sport centered ceremony, a lack to be seen at every coming Asian Olympic ceremony.

Perhaps Paris 2024 would be a real tribute to Pierre de Coubertin.

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On 26/2/2018 at 2:38 PM, hektor said:

I would like Royal de Luxe and La Machine.

Royal de Luxe

La Machine

I've always loved Royal de Luxe props, though would Stade De France have enough big gates for these props?

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Yeah, that's another thing. If they want to use big props they might expand the size of the gates.

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Bearing in mind how Stade de France works, would having the pitch & stands in football mode for the OC at least mean more gate space? Not to mention more seats. Then retract the lower tiers in time for athletics. 

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16 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Well, here's a sample of what Paris 2024 will have to work with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXjFGmAMwpc 

As for large props, they could be partially inflatable on the upper half, so those could blow up once they get past the gates.  

That ceremony was hideous. :wacko: David Guetta was literally the only good thing of it. Then again, Football openings are usually lackluster.

France '98 opening was much more artistic, though. Both the stadium and parade of puppets done in Paris the night before (it's a shame we only have a low quality cam recording of the later)

 

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