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LA2028 Cauldron Lighter Speculation

Although not a criteria for picking Olympic Cauldron lighters, it’s interesting to also look at multiple USA Summer Olympic Gold Medal winners who are still alive:

  • Michael Phelps: 23 gold: highest total in US & Olympic history 2000-2016
  • Mark Spitz:  9 gold 1972: 78yo in 2028
  • Carl Lewis: 9 gold: 1984-1992 - 4 of these won at LA1984 - 67yo in 2028
  • Jenny Thompson: 8 gold: 1992-2004 - 55yo in 2028
  • Matt Biondi:  8 gold, won at LA1984, 1988 & 1992 - 62yo in 2028
  • Allyson Felix: 7 gold 2004-2020
  • Katie Ledecky: 7 gold 2012-2020
  • Caleb Dressel: 7 gold 2016-2020
  • Ryan Lochte: 6 gold 2004-2016
  • Amy Van Dyken: 6 gold 1996-2000
  • Sue Bird: 5 gold 2004-2020
  • Gary Hall Jnr: 5 gold 1996-2004
  • Missy Franklin: 5 gold 2012-2016
  • Aaron Peirsol: 5 gold 2000-2008
  • Nathan Adrian: 5 gold 2008-2016
  • Tom Jager: 5 gold 1984-1992 including LA1984, will be 63yo in 2028
  • Diana Taurasi: 5 gold 2004-2020
  • Dana Volmer: 5 gold 2004-2016
  • Don Schollander: 5 gold 1964-1968, will be 82yo in 2028

Many US athletes won 4 Olympic Gold Medals, including

  • Pat McCormick: 4 gold 1952-1956, will be 97yo in 2028
  • Serena Williams: 4 gold 2000-2012
  • Venus Williams: 4 gold 2000-2016
  • Simone Biles: 4 gold 2026-2020
  • Evelyn Ashford: 4 gold 1084-1992, will be 71yo in 2028
  • Janet Evans: 4 gold 1988-1992
  • Teresa Edwards: 4 gold 1984-2000
  • Matt Grevers: 4 gold 2008-2012
  • Jason Lezak: 4 gold 2000-2012
  • Alison Schmidt: 4 gold 2008-2020
  • Dara Torres: 4 gold 1984-2008
  • Ryan Murphy: 4 gold 2016-2020
  • Jon Olsen: 4 gold 1992-1996
  • Sanya Richards-Ross: 4 gold 2004-2012
  • Tamika Catchings: 4 gold 2004-2016
  • Sylvia Fowles: 4 gold medals 2008-2020
  • Michael Johnson: 1992-200, will be 60yo in 2028
  • Lenny Krazelburg: 4 gold 2000-2004
  • Lisa Leslie: 4 gold 1996-2008

Credit:  Multiple Olympic Gold Medallists

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1 hour ago, Durban Sandshark said:

Really interested how this unprecedented move of two Los Angeles stadiums simultaneously hosting the Opening Ceremony could be pulled off. Would there be alternating presentations at the venues? The Parade of Nations and all the Olympic protocol has to be performed inside the Los Angeles Coliseum because of history. It could use the nearby Banc of California Stadium, where the Los Angeles Sports Arena formerly stood, for the marching athletes to get ready and make their walk, although the Intuit Dome could act likewise if the OC could take place at the SoFi Stadium.

Been repeatedly watching the Los Angeles 1984 Opening Ceremony lately. What nods towards that would the organizers adopt for the 2028 version with respect to subsequent technological and social advancement? I'm thinking Jet Pack Man, Tall Girls & Flags (something we haven't seen since Seoul 1988). Solid assumption that Hollywood with the top movies and music by 2028 with a dose of diverse American music history will be prominent. Music about Los Angeles or LA/Cali-themed ("I Love LA" from Randy Newman and The Eagles' "Hotel California", just to give a couple examples) being played during the Parade of Nations is a possibility. No doubt multiculturalism that Los Angeles definitely possesses--recall the diverse LA residents from every nationalities and tribes sampling entering the stadium and interacting with the athletes, coaches, and officials at the end of the Opening Ceremony--will surely play a role again, as is previously mentioned and wished for on this thread. Los Angeles obviously has gotten even more diverse and multicultural since 1984.     

California alone has oh so many United States Olympians--and gold medalists out of it--over many years to the point that the majority of the USOC delegation in recent Summer Olympics for over 50+ years coming from the Golden State. Rich in Summer Olympians in various sports, admittedly the selection is so tough to chose out of California alone for just carrying the Olympic flag and the final torch relay around the track and lighting it. To the point of saying, "You should see the list of those who we didn't select for those privileges." Rafer Johnson, 1960 Olympic decathlete gold medalist, has Los Angeles ties when he lit it back in 1984 like being a UCLA student like rival and friend C.K. Yang from Taiwan. So I don't really expect anything different. The Williams sisters certainly check the qualification bill like many others, if the organizing committee presumably want to go the full Cali or Los Angeles/Southern California direction. Agree with Joan Benoit being a worthy selection should it come to that with her case, for the significance taking place in Los Angeles, as a candidate for the 2028 cauldron lighting.   

SoFi Stadium is highly likely will be where the Parade of Nations will be and the main part of the Opening Ceremony in 2028.

This much of LA2028 organisers along with the video below was released previously.

Looks like they intend having a Cauldron at both Sofi Stadium and the Coliseum (?) according to the concept video in the link below which see the torch travel from LA Memorial Coliseum over to SoFi Stadium where the main ceremony will be.  

It’s looking likely that LA Memorial Stadium will still be in daylight when the Torch Relay passes through and the old Cauldron is lit on it’s way to SoFi Stadium.

This video released by the Organisers during the bidding phase gives a strong clue.

Going solely on the video, you see the torch relay runner leaving a packed Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and heading toward the second stadium, “SoFi Stadium” in Inglewood.

 ( turn the sound up )

On 7/14/2022 at 1:01 AM, AustralianFan said:

Yes looks like they intend having a Cauldron at both Sofi Stadium and the Coliseum (?) according to the concept video in the link below which see the torch travel from LA Memorial Coliseum over to SoFi Stadium.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

Born and raised in Compton.  They moved to Florida for a while to be closer to their coaches, but eventually moved back home.  So their roots are very much in Southern California

Neither of the sisters were born in Compton and Richard moving his daughters to Compton was intended to toughen them up.

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Even though Richard is depicted as being so protective of his family and determined to keep them off the mean streets, in fact the Williamses had the money to move out of the neighborhood. Venus spent her first three years in sleepy Long Beach, California before Richard deliberately moved the family to Compton, over the objections of his wife, because he believed the tough environment would give the girls a fighter’s mentality. “What led me to Compton was my belief that the greatest champions came out of the Ghetto,” he wrote. “I had studied sports successes like Muhammad Ali and great thinkers like Malcolm X. I saw where they came from.” He also told CNN, “There was no place in the world that was rougher than Compton. The ghetto will make you rough, it’ll make you tough, it’ll make you strong. And so that’s why I went to Compton with them.”

https://slate.com/culture/2021/11/king-richard-movie-accuracy-will-smith-richard-williams.html

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6 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

LA2028 Cauldron Lighter Speculation

Although not a criteria for picking Olympic Cauldron lighters, it’s interesting to also look at multiple USA Summer Olympic Gold Medal winners who are still alive:

  • Michael Phelps: 23 gold: highest total in US & Olympic history 2000-2016
  • Mark Spitz:  9 gold 1972: 78yo in 2028
  • Carl Lewis: 9 gold: 1984-1992 - 4 of these won at LA1984 - 67yo in 2028
  • Jenny Thompson: 8 gold: 1992-2004 - 55yo in 2028
  • Matt Biondi:  8 gold, won at LA1984, 1988 & 1992 - 62yo in 2028
  • Allyson Felix: 7 gold 2004-2020
  • Katie Ledecky: 7 gold 2012-2020
  • Caleb Dressel: 7 gold 2016-2020
  • Ryan Lochte: 6 gold 2004-2016
  • Amy Van Dyken: 6 gold 1996-2000
  • Sue Bird: 5 gold 2004-2020
  • Gary Hall Jnr: 5 gold 1996-2004
  • Missy Franklin: 5 gold 2012-2016
  • Aaron Peirsol: 5 gold 2000-2008
  • Nathan Adrian: 5 gold 2008-2016
  • Tom Jager: 5 gold 1984-1992 including LA1984, will be 63yo in 2028
  • Diana Taurasi: 5 gold 2004-2020
  • Dana Volmer: 5 gold 2004-2016
  • Don Schollander: 5 gold 1964-1968, will be 82yo in 2028

Many US athletes won 4 Olympic Gold Medals, including

  • Pat McCormick: 4 gold 1952-1956, will be 97yo in 2028
  • Serena Williams: 4 gold 2000-2012
  • Venus Williams: 4 gold 2000-2016
  • Simone Biles: 4 gold 2026-2020
  • Evelyn Ashford: 4 gold 1084-1992, will be 71yo in 2028
  • Janet Evans: 4 gold 1988-1992
  • Teresa Edwards: 4 gold 1984-2000
  • Matt Grevers: 4 gold 2008-2012
  • Jason Lezak: 4 gold 2000-2012
  • Alison Schmidt: 4 gold 2008-2020
  • Dara Torres: 4 gold 1984-2008
  • Ryan Murphy: 4 gold 2016-2020
  • Jon Olsen: 4 gold 1992-1996
  • Sanya Richards-Ross: 4 gold 2004-2012
  • Tamika Catchings: 4 gold 2004-2016
  • Sylvia Fowles: 4 gold medals 2008-2020
  • Michael Johnson: 1992-200, will be 60yo in 2028
  • Lenny Krazelburg: 4 gold 2000-2004
  • Lisa Leslie: 4 gold 1996-2008

Credit:  Multiple Olympic Gold Medallists

Amendment:  Dara Torres 4 gold, 12 medals: LA1984, 1988, 1992, 2000, 2008. At age 41, the oldest swimmer to represent USA at the Olympics.

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In addition:

Venus Williams represented USA across five Olympics 2000-2016 for 4 gold and 1 silver = 5 medals total. At Rio 2016, Venus became the most decorated tennis player in Olympic history since 1896.

Serena WIlliams represented USA at four Olympics for 4 gold medals: 2000, 2008, 2012 & 2016.

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7 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

LA2028 Cauldron Lighter Speculation

Although not a criteria for picking Olympic Cauldron lighters, it’s interesting to also look at multiple USA Summer Olympic Gold Medal winners who are still alive:

  • Michael Phelps: 23 gold: highest total in US & Olympic history 2000-2016
  • Mark Spitz:  9 gold 1972: 78yo in 2028
  • Carl Lewis: 9 gold: 1984-1992 - 4 of these won at LA1984 - 67yo in 2028
  • Jenny Thompson: 8 gold: 1992-2004 - 55yo in 2028
  • Matt Biondi:  8 gold, won at LA1984, 1988 & 1992 - 62yo in 2028
  • Allyson Felix: 7 gold 2004-2020
  • Katie Ledecky: 7 gold 2012-2020
  • Caleb Dressel: 7 gold 2016-2020
  • Ryan Lochte: 6 gold 2004-2016
  • Amy Van Dyken: 6 gold 1996-2000
  • Sue Bird: 5 gold 2004-2020
  • Gary Hall Jnr: 5 gold 1996-2004
  • Missy Franklin: 5 gold 2012-2016
  • Aaron Peirsol: 5 gold 2000-2008
  • Nathan Adrian: 5 gold 2008-2016
  • Tom Jager: 5 gold 1984-1992 including LA1984, will be 63yo in 2028
  • Diana Taurasi: 5 gold 2004-2020
  • Dana Volmer: 5 gold 2004-2016
  • Don Schollander: 5 gold 1964-1968, will be 82yo in 2028

Many US athletes won 4 Olympic Gold Medals, including

  • Pat McCormick: 4 gold 1952-1956, will be 97yo in 2028
  • Serena Williams: 4 gold 2000-2012
  • Venus Williams: 4 gold 2000-2016
  • Simone Biles: 4 gold 2026-2020
  • Evelyn Ashford: 4 gold 1084-1992, will be 71yo in 2028
  • Janet Evans: 4 gold 1988-1992
  • Teresa Edwards: 4 gold 1984-2000
  • Matt Grevers: 4 gold 2008-2012
  • Jason Lezak: 4 gold 2000-2012
  • Alison Schmidt: 4 gold 2008-2020
  • Dara Torres: 4 gold 1984-2008
  • Ryan Murphy: 4 gold 2016-2020
  • Jon Olsen: 4 gold 1992-1996
  • Sanya Richards-Ross: 4 gold 2004-2012
  • Tamika Catchings: 4 gold 2004-2016
  • Sylvia Fowles: 4 gold medals 2008-2020
  • Michael Johnson: 1992-200, will be 60yo in 2028
  • Lenny Krazelburg: 4 gold 2000-2004
  • Lisa Leslie: 4 gold 1996-2008

Credit:  Multiple Olympic Gold Medallists

Precisely, there are SOOOOOO MANY -- a dime a dozen; dripping out of the USOPC's ass -- that you have to pick the ones with really special resonance to LA and their victories -- which is why I have pushed for Benoit-Samuelson, Kiraly, Walsh and Misty-May.  NOT quantity but QUALITY.  

(As an aside, France, for its 2024 budget woes now, should auction off the rights to be the Final Torch bearer to the highest bidder!  :lol:  That might help close the holes in their under-funded budget.  ;)  I'm sure there won't be a shortage of bidders amongst Musk, Bezos, Ellison, Arnault, etc.   Of course, it will give the Greeks apoplexy as it did in 1984!) 

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53 minutes ago, ulu said:

Neither of the sisters were born in Compton and Richard moving his daughters to Compton was intended to toughen them up.

https://slate.com/culture/2021/11/king-richard-movie-accuracy-will-smith-richard-williams.html

This is where I don't like that you can't make edits on this site without a premium subscription (unless that's not a thing anymore).  Meant to say born and raised in Southern California (although Serena is officially having been born in Michigan).  Still the LA area roots there

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12 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Precisely, there are SOOOOOO MANY -- a dime a dozen; dripping out of the USOPC's ass -- that you have to pick the ones with really special resonance to LA and their victories -- which is why I have pushed for Benoit-Samuelson, Kiraly, Walsh and Misty-May.  NOT quantity but QUALITY.  

I agree.  Going down a list of the Americans with the most medals doesn't matter, especially when there are so many that have significance to LA.  Plenty to pick from there

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Two other 2028 thoughts:

- They'll probably find the grandson or granddaughter of a worker from the 1932 Games much as they featured Gina Hemphill and a grandson of Jim Thorpe in 1984.  But soneone with ties to 1932 will bring the story full circle.  

All these other multi-medalists I had envisioned scattered in the filed or on the steps of LA Memorial holding torhces which will emit red and blue flares -- or in the review of past Olympic cities, as their city where they had their greatest triumphs is called, the spotlight turns on them with all their medals.  

But still save the Lighting only for Benoit-Samuelson at the Memorial Cauldron and I guess, Phelps and whomeer at Inglewood.  

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1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Two other 2028 thoughts:

- They'll probably find the grandson or granddaughter of a worker from the 1932 Games much as they featured Gina Hemphill and a grandson of Jim Thorpe in 1984.  But soneone with ties to 1932 will bring the story full circle.  

All these other multi-medalists I had envisioned scattered in the filed or on the steps of LA Memorial holding torhces which will emit red and blue flares -- or in the review of past Olympic cities, as their city where they had their greatest triumphs is called, the spotlight turns on them with all their medals.  

But still save the Lighting only for Benoit-Samuelson at the Memorial Cauldron and I guess, Phelps and whomeer at Inglewood.  

In doing some research, and I wasn't aware of this.. Rafer Johnson's daughter competed at the 2000 Olympics in beach volleyball and is currently a coach at UCLA.  Deep ties to the school obviously dating back to her dad, who sadly passed away a couple of years ago.

I still don't get this fixation of yours on Benoit.  I understand the significance of the race she won, but there are so many athletes with stronger connections to LA and Southern California that deserve that honor.  Again, this is an Olympics in the United States.  There's too many familiar faces out there to give that role to someone who isn't instantly recognizable.  I don't think this is an opportunity to turn it into a learning moment.  Find someone whose contribution to sport and the Olympic movement goes beyond a singular moment. 

That I think about it more, as much as I agree with the notion that it should be a female, you said his name earlier.. give it to Karch Kiraly.  Son of an immigrant, both played for and coached at UCLA, won gold medals twice on U.S. soil, including introducing a sport that traces a lot of its American roots to Southern California to the mainstream.  Tons of history there to celebrate.  That's the type of person who should be rewarded for their contributions to the Olympic movement and given that honor in 2028

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/\/\  Similarly, I don't get your fixation with ". . .  just southern California roots."  As you said, this is an Olympics for the USA -- for the whole world as a matter of fact, so why limit it to So-Cal?  The Lighting is a global moment, so why does it have to be someone with SoCal roots exclusively?  Benoit is the living embodiment of an event that was like 88 years too late -- and after all those years, the IOC finally saw it fit to stage the most prestigious race for women.  Huh? Why did it take so long, when after 1900, all the other female categories started opening up?  

Like Spyridon Louis -- OK, the Greeks cheated a bit since they had their runners do 2 dry-runs of the virgin 1896 marathon course, Benoit achieved her victory right there in that staidum in Los Angeles against a stellar field.  Why should that be minimized?  Cathy Freeman of Australia was also a one-race pony -- why not Benoit? 

There will be at least 2 spots and at most several spots-- in both locations to spread the honor to more than one.  Heck, they might even include a descendant of the Paul Helm and William May Garland, founders of SOCOG who have brought the OGs to LA the last 2 times.  Maybe even 1984 boss Peter Ueberroth.   

I would give Kiraly (and his female equivalents, Walsh and May) maybe honor guard or penultimate lighter(s) or co-lighter(s) status.  Playing and winning in 4 consecutive Olympic Games is no small feat.   Anyway. those are my bets and I think I have extremely valid footing for them. 

But who knows?  Maybe LA2028 will -- in true capitalist American fashion -- auction off those spots whether Paris does it or not?  :lol:  And we have SIX years to argue about this!  Are you ready?  :lol:

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17 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Precisely, there are SOOOOOO MANY -- a dime a dozen; dripping out of the USOPC's ass -- that you have to pick the ones with really special resonance to LA and their victories -- which is why I have pushed for Benoit-Samuelson, Kiraly, Walsh and Misty-May.  NOT quantity but QUALITY.  

(As an aside, France, for its 2024 budget woes now, should auction off the rights to be the Final Torch bearer to the highest bidder!  :lol:  That might help close the holes in their under-funded budget.  ;)  I'm sure there won't be a shortage of bidders amongst Musk, Bezos, Ellison, Arnault, etc.   Of course, it will give the Greeks apoplexy as it did in 1984!) 

I think my uess should be Michael Phelps.

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7 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\  Similarly, I don't get your fixation with ". . .  just southern California roots."  As you said, this is an Olympics for the USA -- for the whole world as a matter of fact, so why limit it to So-Cal?  The Lighting is a global moment, so why does it have to be someone with SoCal roots exclusively?  Benoit is the living embodiment of an event that was like 88 years too late -- and after all those years, the IOC finally saw it fit to stage the most prestigious race for women.  Huh? Why did it take so long, when after 1900, all the other female categories started opening up?  

Until 1984, women didn't have an event on the program longer than 1,500 meters.  Old wives tale about how women's bodies weren't capable of handling longer distances.  You're absolutely right that inaugural women's Olympic marathon was an historic moment.  But living embodiment of an event?  I get that she's your pick for this and I understand why, but don't treat it as some sort of matter of fact thing and that any opinion to the contrary is unwelcome because you unilaterally say it's so.  Yea, I'm looking for someone of significance, to both the Olympic movement and to the United States and Southern California.  Benoit IMHO doesn't belong at the top of the list.  She's done a lot for the sport since she won that race, but does that even matter to you?  Or is the criteria that she won a race in that stadium and therefore it's "living embodiment"?  Other athletes won events in that stadium as well.  Carl Lewis won 4 of them.  Why not give it to him?  

8 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Like Spyridon Louis -- OK, the Greeks cheated a bit since they had their runners do 2 dry-runs of the virgin 1896 marathon course, Benoit achieved her victory right there in that staidum in Los Angeles against a stellar field.  Why should that be minimized?  Cathy Freeman of Australia was also a one-race pony -- why not Benoit? 

Why must that be maximized?  I said earlier I'd be totally for Benoit carrying the flame into the stadium.  Make it a nod to the `84 marathon and give her homage.  There are dozens of moments from the `84 games that deserve recognition.  They're not going to be able to hit on all of them, let alone play into that theme for the flame lighting.  The last Summer Olympics in the US saw the flame lit by one of the most famous and recognizable athletes in this country's history.  I think this next time around deserves someone of similar stature, not - as you put it - someone of a singular moment and not much else.

And that's really ignorant to compare it to Cathy Freeman.  You know why she was picked.  It was purely a symbolic gesture.  That's the route the Aussie chose to go in that place and time and I understand the reason behind it.  Not comparable to Joan Benoit and I think you know that.

8 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

There will be at least 2 spots and at most several spots-- in both locations to spread the honor to more than one.  Heck, they might even include a descendant of the Paul Helm and William May Garland, founders of SOCOG who have brought the OGs to LA the last 2 times.  Maybe even 1984 boss Peter Ueberroth.   

I would give Kiraly (and his female equivalents, Walsh and May) maybe honor guard or penultimate lighter(s) or co-lighter(s) status.  Playing and winning in 4 consecutive Olympic Games is no small feat.   Anyway. those are my bets and I think I have extremely valid footing for them. 

But who knows?  Maybe LA2028 will -- in true capitalist American fashion -- auction off those spots whether Paris does it or not?  :lol:  And we have SIX years to argue about this!  Are you ready?  :lol:

6 years of arguing?  Bring it on!  I think we both agree there's more people that deserve a spotlight than they'll have an opportunity to give one to.  Was easier in 2002 when they hit on just about every sport, but there are fewer of those for the Winter Olympics.  I still think - and you're welcome to disagree - that the Los Angeles organizing committee will lean towards those with connections to the city and the region.  Because that still leaves them with plenty of people to choose from and stories to tell on each of them.  Yes, that can certainly include Benoit who won a marathon that finished at that stadium.  But my bet is that whoever the cauldron lighter is will be instantly recognizable to the majority of the audience, both in the stadium and watching on TV.  That's going to be a younger and more diverse audience than the Olympic aficionados who would instantly know who Joan Benoit is.  

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5 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

  Carl Lewis won 4 of them.  Why not give it to him?   

Because then, it's the 3rd Summer Games in 44 years, and you're giving it to another black male athlete.  Gee, been there; done that.  How have you moved the needle?  :wacko:

How about this one?  S/he'll take care of both genders.  :lol:

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2 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Because then, it's the 3rd Summer Games in 44 years, and you're giving it to another black male athlete.  Gee, been there; done that.  How have you moved the needle?  :wacko:

How about this one?  S/he'll take care of both genders.  :lol:

Do us both a favor.  Well 2 favors actually.  1) No one needs to see that image, so no need to share it.  And 2) If we want this to be a serious discussion, spare us the dumb sarcasm.

Okay, so the last time the Olympics were in LA, a track and field athlete was chosen to light the flame.  So wouldn't Benoit be another "been there, done that?"  How about Mary Lou then, speaking of an `84 champion of significance.  Or is she too well known and therefore doesn't need the attention?  Maybe give it to Greg Louganis to see who that pisses off if we're looking at gold medalists from LA.

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Retton's up there -- but then again, so MANY American women have followed in her category (being All-Around winners) - Nastia Lukin, Kerri Strug, Douglas, one of those Mac gals, Simone Biles, Sun Lee -- so yeah, Mary Lou is '84 but she's not unique.

Louganis I would put in the Honor Guard.  Considering there are scores to choose from, he's probably an A- or a B+ name.  And it's not like he trail-blazed Diving for American men.  Trail-blazing; you gotta find the FIRST who medaled in their category/sport and has it been duplicated multiple-fold in succeeding Games?  

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3 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Retton's up there -- but then again, so MANY American women have followed in her category (being All-Around winners) - Nastia Lukin, Kerri Strug, Douglas, one of those Mac gals, Simone Biles, Sun Lee -- so yeah, Mary Lou is '84 but she's not unique.

Louganis I would put in the Honor Guard.  Considering there are scores to choose from, he's probably an A- or a B+ name.  And it's not like he trail-blazed Diving for American men.  Trail-blazing; you gotta find the FIRST who medaled in their category/sport and has it been duplicated multiple-fold in succeeding Games?  

Sooo... Mary Lou Retton.  That's what we call a legacy.  She was the first in a long line of great American gymnasts.  She helped paved the way for them and for the sport to become a big deal to young American girls.  That's what I would look to honor at the ceremonies in 2028.  Someone who has that kind of contribution to their sport's history.  And that's not to say Benoit wasn't active in distance running in the years after `84.  Just doesn't resonate as much as Mary Lou.

Something else to think about.  There's been another Summer Olympics in the United States since 1984.  So there was an opportunity to honor key names from the LA games.  Obviously those Olympics weren't in Los Angeles, so that tie in didn't exist.  But it might beg the question that if the flame lighter is someone who last competed in `84, why didn't they get honoered in 1996?

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31 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

 Obviously those Olympics weren't in Los Angeles, so that tie in didn't exist.  But it might beg the question that if the flame lighter is someone who last competed in `84, why didn't they get honoered in 1996?

Well, some local tie-ins for the OC.  Obviously Ray Charles was signed with Pepsi Cola, so they couldn't let him sing "Georgia on my Mind."  They give the OC turn to Atlanta native, Glady Knight minus the Pips (who might've been mistaken as shilling for Pepsi in the Coca-Cola town.  There was an LA tie-tin for the Torch relay,  Evander Holyfield is also from the Atlanta area but he had an LA 1984 medal, he brought the Torch into the stadium; then joined by the Greek runner.  And of course, BIG MOUTH Ali is from the 'hood - from Louisville, so he lit that derrick tower.  

About the 2002 Lighting, so they had the whole 1980 team there.  Aside from the Captain's face, all one saw was everyone's back when they all converged and tried to stick the torch in there.  So much for face recognition.  Those backs could've been anyone else's.  
 

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8 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Well, some local tie-ins for the OC.  Obviously Ray Charles was signed with Pepsi Cola, so they couldn't let him sing "Georgia on my Mind."  They give the OC turn to Atlanta native, Glady Knight minus the Pips (who might've been mistaken as shilling for Pepsi in the Coca-Cola town.  There was an LA tie-tin for the Torch relay,  Evander Holyfield is also from the Atlanta area but he had an LA 1984 medal, he brought the Torch into the stadium; then joined by the Greek runner.  And of course, BIG MOUTH Ali is from the 'hood - from Louisville, so he lit that derrick tower.  

About the 2002 Lighting, so they had the whole 1980 team there.  Aside from the Captain's face, all one saw was everyone's back when they all converged and tried to stick the torch in there.  So much for face recognition.  Those backs could've been anyone else's.  
 

The problem with the 2002 lighting is that they show Eruzione, but you could see the rest of the team behind him, so that ruined the surprise somewhat when he called for the rest of the team to join him.  Nice sentiment to get the whole team involved, especially shortly after 9/11, but not the best execution to make that work.

As for 1996.. they didn't have as many people in the stadium.  Just Holyfield climbing out of the hole in the floor.  Then Evans.  And Ali.  Have to imagine that 2028 will go more the Salt Lake route and have more people carrying the torch through the stadium(s) and who knows how they'll make that work with the 2 venues.  At least we're going on 32 years since the last Summer Olympics here rather than 12, so there's a whole new crop of athletes they can honor while still paying homage as they will to 1984

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On 9/2/2022 at 9:30 PM, Quaker2001 said:

This is where I don't like that you can't make edits on this site without a premium subscription (unless that's not a thing anymore).  Meant to say born and raised in Southern California (although Serena is officially having been born in Michigan).  Still the LA area roots there

Venus was born in the Lynwood neighborhood of LA which immediately next door to Compton just south of Downtown Los Angeles.

 

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2 hours ago, JesseSaenz said:

Venus was born in the Lynwood neighborhood of LA which immediately next door to Compton just south of Downtown Los Angeles.

 

Was that the opening number at the Oscar show which was both beautiful and horrifying at the same time with those piss-yellow outfits?  Was that shot in the Williams' backyard (or some lot converted to a tennis court)?  

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On 9/6/2022 at 11:11 PM, AustralianFan said:

Rocketman

Speaking of a reprise of the Rocketman from 1984 OC at LA2028, here’s proof they’re still in use with the military:

 

Since the Los Angeles 1984 Opening Ceremony, Rocketman has indeed come a long way. Maybe a reprise at one of the LA 2028 Ceremonies stadia?

 

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