LA 2028 Ceremonies

[baron-pierreIV]

LA 2028 Opening will I think be simpler than an LA 1984 or a Barcelona 1992 only because it will happen in an enclosed space  plus there is that gigantic scoreboard they have to deal with.  So NO fireworks inside PLUS the main cauldron lighting is taking place elsewhere.  My only hope is that it doesn't become a concert for rappers and the like.  

[Chris_Mex]

3 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

LA 2028 Opening will I think be simpler than an LA 1984 or a Barcelona 1992 only because it will happen in an enclosed space  plus there is that gigantic scoreboard they have to deal with.  So NO fireworks inside PLUS the main cauldron lighting is taking place elsewhere.  My only hope is that it doesn't become a concert for rappers and the like.  

Well sochi was performed in an enclosed space and in a rectangular field, and it was hands down, THE BEST WINTER OLYMPIC OPENING CEREMONY EVER with capitals and all

Also vancouver was celebrated in a back then enclosed venue and has been another one of the best opening ceremonies in winter olympics. In both cases, the closed area gave them the opportunity to build railing systems in the roof so they can put flying objects on stage

And in the firework section, even in beijing the roof was desgined in a way which didn't allow half of the stadium to see the fireworks, so its not really important if 40-80k people in the stands lose sight of the fireworks,  if the 1 billion tv spectators have a clear sight of em

[baron-pierreIV]

8 hours ago, Chris_Mex said:

Well sochi was performed in an enclosed space and in a rectangular field, and it was hands down, THE BEST WINTER OLYMPIC OPENING CEREMONY EVER with capitals and all

Also vancouver was celebrated in a back then enclosed venue and has been another one of the best opening ceremonies in winter olympics. In both cases, the closed area gave them the opportunity to build railing systems in the roof so they can put flying objects on stage

And in the firework section, even in beijing the roof was desgined in a way which didn't allow half of the stadium to see the fireworks, so its not really important if 40-80k people in the stands lose sight of the fireworks,  if the 1 billion tv spectators have a clear sight of em

Re Sochi -- well, the late enclosure of Fisht Arena was also tailored to the concepts of George Tsypin. There was a happy, timely convergence pf ideas and execution there.  Aside from the main arena, they created two addditional areas where (1) all those huge, upside-down props lay in waiting, plus then (2) pushing them out and back to the backstage storage space.  The covering was designed specifically for the flow of those props.  You can't do that with a FIXED roof in SoFi plus you have that huge 360 scoreboard which I am sure they will put to good use.  I don't know how much more stuff they can hang on SoFi's roof without endangerment.  It wasn't meant for MORE weight.  

With Vancouver, sure, David Atkins did a great job.  NEVER said they didn't.  

Uhmmm . . . fireworks . . . California . ..  drought.   Won't be seen anyway by the 95,000 paying premium prices for tickets -- so a few outside . . . over the lagoon area -- although this is supposedly where the Archery stands will go.  So, maybe over the parking lots -- but that's a waste IMHO.  Also, SoFi is on the flightpath of LAX, so they can't really explode overly BIG and extravagant pyros in that path.  They'll save the fireworks for the Cauldron-Lighting moment at LA Memorial, and the Closing and Para ceremonies there.  But it's rather wasteful to fire a lot over SoFi.  

Also, for both Vancouver and Sochi, being Winter OGs, they were able to sit the 3K athletes in the stands, so they weren't in the way at all in executing the rest of the show.  At SoFi, it will welcome what? 9K athletes to the FOP, hence that space has to be cleared to allow for all those athletes.  Which is why I say, it will be a simpler show logistically -- but I never said it would be short on ingenuity and inventiveness -- hopefully.  Be ready for tons of projections and LED screens!! 

Edited July 6, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[BigVic]

David Atkins the master of Ceremonies in Sydney and Vancouver. 

LA 2028 will be unique due to that jumbotron at SoFi Stadium in the middle of the stadium 

[baron-pierreIV]

21 hours ago, BigVic said:

David Atkins the master of Ceremonies in Sydney and Vancouver. 

LA 2028 will be unique due to that jumbotron at SoFi Stadium in the middle of the stadium 

Atkins was like #2 or #3 in Sydney.  The big boss for Sydney was Ric Birch.  Atkins only handled some of the portions.  

The jumbotron can only do so much.  It should enhance whatever action goes on in the floor.  You can't be looking up at that screen the whole 4 hours.  

Edited July 8, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[BigVic]

For the cauldron at LA28, they'll most likely opt to use the one at the Coliseum and a smaller one at SoFi Stadium. 

Using the cauldron at the Coliseum will mean it'll be the first time the same cauldron has been used on 3 seperate occassions

On 7/9/2022 at 5:27 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

The jumbotron can only do so much.  It should enhance whatever action goes on in the floor.

They'll integrate the jumbotron into the opening ceremony 

[baron-pierreIV]

2 hours ago, BigVic said:

They'll integrate the jumbotron into the opening ceremony 

Obviously.   

Yes, the cauldron will be the first 3-timer; not unless they do something new.  

[rio2016man]

 Nelly for 2028 Olympics opening ceremony 

[SportLightning]

8 hours ago, rio2016man said:

 Nelly for 2028 Olympics opening ceremony 

I think it's possible. i know he did the Birmingham 2022 World Games opening ceremony, but i don't know if he can for Los Angeles 2028.

[baron-pierreIV]

/\/\  You gotta be kidding.  huh? Whomever is that "Nelly" (Furtado?) in charge of the WG2022 OC, to be considered for LA 2028?    That OC was like some small-town amateur, hour -- well, which it was.  Not unless LA 2028 wants to commit suicide, I think they would be looking to upgrade -- not downgrade. 

I couldn't finish the show.  It was simply too boring and hackneyed.  Having someone who could barely sing lead AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL?  There have been better Super Bowl half-time shows.  

Edited July 12, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[Quaker2001]

Maybe we need to get Marco Rubio's thoughts on the ceremonies.  Based on this latest tweet of his, perhaps he's been lurking here all these years...

 

[FYI]

On 7/4/2022 at 5:59 PM, Olympics2028 said:

BTW, I want the 2028 ceremonies to be themed in a very universal, international way. Although, sure, "LA/Hollywood/USA" can be a part of that,  it should be kept to a minimum. Previous summer games - particularly the last few ones - have really chilled me on overly provincial-local formats.

Again, if that's what you "want", then you need to go to Disney World (or in your case, Disney Land), to get your fill of "a very universal, international way" ceremonies.

Host cities want the Olympics to showcase THEMSELVES to the world (& that's what the world wants to see when they're watching the Olympics play out in different host countries). Not throw together some cheap, grand-bazaar version of universal internationalism just to suit your strange whimsical ways.

 

[FYI]

On 7/5/2022 at 2:51 PM, baron-pierreIV said:

My only hope is that it doesn't become a concert for rappers and the like.  

That would be a travesty of Olympic proportions. 

[AustralianFan]

On 7/10/2022 at 3:14 AM, BigVic said:

For the cauldron at LA28, they'll most likely opt to use the one at the Coliseum and a smaller one at SoFi Stadium. 

Using the cauldron at the Coliseum will mean it'll be the first time the same cauldron has been used on 3 seperate occassions

They'll integrate the jumbotron into the opening ceremony 

Yes looks like they intend having a Cauldron at both Sofi Stadium and the Coliseum (?) according to the concept video in the link below which see the torch travel from LA Memorial Coliseum over to SoFi Stadium.

 

[Chris_Mex]

29 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Yes looks like they intend having a Cauldron at both Sofi Stadium and the Coliseum (?) according to the concept video in the link below which see the torch travel from LA Memorial Coliseum over to SoFi Stadium.

 

IDK why some people are still surprised with the idea of a double cauldron, it has been done this way since rio

[Quaker2001]

1 hour ago, AustralianFan said:

Yes looks like they intend having a Cauldron at both Sofi Stadium and the Coliseum (?) according to the concept video in the link below which see the torch travel from LA Memorial Coliseum over to SoFi Stadium.

 

Thought it was curious that it said 2024 Games, but then I realized that tweet is from 5 1/2 years ago.  Before SoFi Stadium was built.  So yes, that's the initial concept, but I have a feeling this may or may not represent what we're likely to see in 2028 as plans have probably evolved since then

[AustralianFan]

58 minutes ago, Chris_Mex said:

IDK why some people are still surprised with the idea of a double cauldron, it has been done this way since rio

Not surprised at all. 

But this triple Olympic City Los Angeles is going to be different because 2 stadiums will be involved both packed full of people. 

Going solely on the video, you see the torch relay runner leaving a packed Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and heading toward the second stadium, “SoFi Stadium” in Inglewood.

So this is no ordinary light one main cauldron in the Olympic Stadium as part of the Opening Ceremony, and then off-camera quietly lighting a second cauldron somewhere else in a public community spot as in Rio or Vancouver.

The video strongly hints that two packed stadia will be involved. 

Now, that’s a first for a triple Olympic host city.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[baron-pierreIV]

/\/\  Nah.  That timing is all wrong; won't work.  You can't light the LA Memorial one too early.  It's not dark enough.  

The way I see this happening and you would have 2 torches/mini relays simultaneously leaving:

(1) the UCLA Olympic Village for SoFi (both on the West side); and about the same time, 

(2) the other "truer" flame leaving LA City Hall for Memorial (both on the downtown side).  And from then on, everything will be pretty much shown split screen.  Or allow the "show" cauldron at SoFi to be lit a few moments before the LA Memorial one is lit.  

Simpler logistics but same effect.  That's how I would do it if I were asked.  

Edited July 13, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[AustralianFan]

7 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\  Nah.  That timing is all wrong; won't work.  You can't light the LA Memorial one too early.  It's not dark enough.  

The way I see this happening and you would have 2 torches/mini relays simultaneously leaving:

(1) the UCLA Olympic Village for SoFi (both on the West side); and about the same time, 

(2) the other "truer" flame leaving LA City Hall for Memorial (both on the downtown side).  And from then on, everything will be pretty much shown split screen.  Or allow the "show" cauldron at SoFi to be lit a few moments before the LA Memorial one is lit.  

Simpler logistics but same effect.  That's how I would do it if I were asked.  

Yes, agree of an early Coliseum lighting wouldn’t work so your idea of simultaneous relays to both stadia makes good sense.

You could also have the torch relay teams start as one from LA City Hall before reaching a geographical strategic point and lighting a second torch in that group which then split up to form two simultaneous torch relays to both LA Memorial Coliseum and SoFi Stadium.

[baron-pierreIV]

/\/\ I would minimize street closings, etc. on a Friday afternoon and when crowds are trying to get to both SoFi and LA Memorial.  Besides, I guess you're not familiar with LA too much -- all those Wilshire and Crenshaw neighborhoods between downtown LA leading up to Inglewood are NOT really photogenic and you really want to minimize LAPD, security and volunteers from manning the torch routes.  They also want to watch the ceremonies.  So UCLA to SoFi  and City Hall-to Memorial are much shorter routes that may take -- I don't know, I haven't really run those distances -- est. 35 - 45 minutes each, if that much. So they can leave UCLA and City Hall much later.  That's a short time to clog fewer streets and NOT use too much person-power.  And less streets to decorate.  

Edited July 14, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[AustralianFan]

Dates set for each Opening Ceremony.

 

[Olympics2028]

On 7/12/2022 at 11:50 PM, FYI said:

Host cities want the Olympics to showcase THEMSELVES to the world (& that's what the world wants to see when they're watching the Olympics play out in different host countries). Not throw together some cheap, grand-bazaar version of universal internationalism just to suit your strange whimsical ways.

 

 

"Los Angeles/Hollywood" and "USA/America" date back to 1984 (which, by Olympic standards, is rather recent) and, a bit less so, 1996. So a re-hash of that same territory would be a case of "who the hell cares?!" Actually, I think 2012 was also themed to "Hollywood" since a lot of big movies/music/shows in today's world are emanating from London, not Los Angeles.

The 2028 opening also already has the whiff of ending up a "dud" due to the nature of SoFi Stadium (good for NFL, but not for "Olympic ceremony") and its intrusive (again, ideal for NFL, not for ceremony) message board.

[Olympics2028]

On 7/4/2022 at 5:28 PM, Bear said:

how many times are you going to repeat yourself... like we get it, now go say something else that's new

 

That's odd because I find that the few people who post regularly to this forum seem to be pointing out the same thing over and over again. And pretty much giving their same opinion over and over again.

Gamesbid.com doesn't exactly attract a huge number of users, and the tone that people use for themselves when talking or debating doesn't change that much.

 

[FYI]

8 hours ago, Olympics2028 said:

"Los Angeles/Hollywood" and "USA/America" date back to 1984 (which, by Olympic standards, is rather recent) and, a bit less so, 1996. So a re-hash of that same territory would be a case of "who the hell cares?!"

Very few people will have remembered 1996, much less 1984, by the time 2028 comes around. So I'm sure that they'll figure something out. But a stereotypical cheap thrills, for the sake of internationalism, isn't the answer, either. Especially of all places, Hollywood.

[baron-pierreIV]

11 hours ago, Olympics2028 said:

 

"Los Angeles/Hollywood" and "USA/America" date back to 1984 (which, by Olympic standards, is rather recent) and, a bit less so, 1996. So a re-hash of that same territory would be a case of "who the hell cares?!"

If you read the IOC charter, the IOC allows, encourages the host country to display its culture.  So there is NOTHING wrong with going Hollywood-LA-USA for a 4th time.  It's ALL perfectly acceptable within the IOC framework. But I have a few ideas which will squeeze through those.