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27 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Actually for the Atlanta Centennial Games, Delta already got the Airline Partner category while United held on to its contract with the USOC.  How could Delta not have been a major sponsor for the Games right in its backyard. 

Now, I guess Delta has edged out United for the same category for LA 28.  

I knew Delta was a sponsor for Atlanta 1996 (and SLC 2002), however I didn't know that United still retained contract w/ the USOC itself. I thought it was like a package deal (OCOG + USOPC). Nice to learn something new :)

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1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

The DYNAMIC shtick works only if you're on the computer.  Otherwise, for flat surfaces like that, print, the torch, the medals, the uniforms, the bunting -- they will have to choose one.  And that's where I disagree with LA's choice, with 5 or 6 different "A"s it is confusing to people who look for consistency.  To me it's a turn-off that I have to deal with a few different "A"s.  It doesn't always work.  Seems like a DUMB Tony Estanguet move.  

The whole rest of the logo besides the A is the same bold font, so I can guess the general familiarity is thought to come from that. They can solve this problem by assigning As to certain functions: one to represent the volunteers, other to pictograms which would also indicate the sport inside the arena for onlookers for exemple, all with the bold letters around it giving the context clues needed. So, the As could be more like identifiers that are supported by the rest, after all we didn't had separate applications for them yet.

To sum it up: you are supposed to have the bold letters around it so the A can change in peace.

Also, poor Estanguet, taking one for the next host after his games! 😂

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Honestly my only comment on the LA28 emblem system is that both the L and the A should be customizable, not just the A. I feel like it would look nicer that way tbh

also a bit unrelated, but...

59 minutes ago, Guilga said:

games! 😂

since when do the forums allow actual emojis within text??? has that always been a thing?? 😭😾🤨because i remember being forced to edit the link text to remove any emojis when posting youtube links here since it wouldn't let me hit submit otherwise...

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6 minutes ago, Bear said:

a bit unrelated, but...

since when do the forums allow actual emojis within text??? has that always been a thing?? 😭😾🤨because i remember being forced to edit the link text to remove any emojis when posting youtube links here since it wouldn't let me hit submit otherwise...

I noticed that too, sometime last week. It looks like it's something new, but it seems it's only when you're on a laptop or a chromebook. Cause on iPhone, it still the same ole emojis as before.

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12 hours ago, FYI said:

I noticed that too, sometime last week. It looks like it's something new, but it seems it's only when you're on a laptop or a chromebook. Cause on iPhone, it still the same ole emojis as before.

I used android for that post, so it might be more an Unicode compatibility thing?

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15 hours ago, Guilga said:

The whole rest of the logo besides the A is the same bold font, so I can guess the general familiarity is thought to come from that. They can solve this problem by assigning As to certain functions: one to represent the volunteers, other to pictograms which would also indicate the sport inside the arena for onlookers for exemple, all with the bold letters around it giving the context clues needed. So, the As could be more like identifiers that are supported by the rest, after all we didn't had separate applications for them yet.

To sum it up: you are supposed to have the bold letters around it so the A can change in peace.

Also, poor Estanguet, taking one for the next host after his games! 😂

The ONLY reason LA28 released this "dynamic" logo was because they wanted to be the FIRST in history to do it.  They beat some Euro sports meet at Ekaterinburg by two weeks which then released its dynamic logo -- but LA28 RUSHED their logo so that it could NOT be said that they copied Ekaterinburg's idea.  (I can't recall now which event it was at Ekaterinburg, Russia, which used that dynamic logo.  And LA28 released theirs--way AHEAD of the normal 4 years only before your Games.)  So, rushing it just to be first really isn't good enough reason to come up with a TRULY good logo. 

Now, as for having it on Volunteers' uniforms, if they want to stick to the "dynamic idea." then they will have to issue each volunteer 4 or 5 T-shirts each, and then have them change every minute or so -- and voila! the logo still keeps changing!!  :wacko: 

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6 hours ago, Guilga said:

I used android for that post, so it might be more an Unicode compatibility thing?

Probably, cause on the iPhone it's still the old emojis. I'll miss the active one for this one 🙄 if I'm not on my iPhone at any given time & would like to use it. lol 

I don't like using my iPhone that much if I'm gonna be typing quite a bit (for a quick text message, though, it's fine).

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So now that the Games are becoming more of a reality considering the handover is just months away, we're finally starting to get our own share of that pre-Games worry.

So far the concerns right now are directed at our public transit, specifically the need for 2700 buses (about double the current fleet) for Games-time in order to be able to transport the required number of people across the county for the events. The cost of this would be around $700M to $1B, causing LA Metro to be unsure on how to obtain that amount of money. LA28 believes that the Federal Government will cover this, citing LA84 and SLC2002 as examples where this was the case. Hopefully this is true again...

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41 minutes ago, Bear said:

So now that the Games are becoming more of a reality considering the handover is just months away, we're finally starting to get our own share of that pre-Games worry.

So far the concerns right now are directed at our public transit, specifically the need for 2700 buses (about double the current fleet) for Games-time in order to be able to transport the required number of people across the county for the events. The cost of this would be around $700M to $1B, causing LA Metro to be unsure on how to obtain that amount of money. LA28 believes that the Federal Government will cover this, citing LA84 and SLC2002 as examples where this was the case. Hopefully this is true again...

Of course, this did not factor in Wasserman's decision to add 5 more new sports.  34 or 35 sports are just RIDICULOUS!! I don't know who Wasserman is trying to please with the scope he committed LA too. 

The sheer logistics are simply going to be staggering.  30 venues, delivering the various teams to, say, 30 locations from UCLA.  Several thousand press from USC to the same 30 or so venues -- and back & forth from venues to the IBC in Studio City--and then back to USC! More buses needed to ferry guests from, say, 50 hotels.  How about Games volunteers?  The extra workers for the hotels?  I really hope the subway can make the planning less of a nightmare.  I bet many of those will be the same school buses--just as they were put to service in 1984.  They're going to have to bring in buses from Vegas, San Diego and the SF Bay Area.  Oh, and the drivers too?? 

 

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Q: o far the concerns right now are directed at our public transit, specifically the need for 2700 buses

 

I have no idea how things work in the US, but for Sydney 2000 all Australian states had their school holidays at the same time, and Sydney 2000 rounded up every bus they could get their hands on for the Games. Seems very sensible.

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11 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

Q: o far the concerns right now are directed at our public transit, specifically the need for 2700 buses

 

I have no idea how things work in the US, but for Sydney 2000 all Australian states had their school holidays at the same time, and Sydney 2000 rounded up every bus they could get their hands on for the Games. Seems very sensible.

Well, in 1984, they used school buses from mostly LAUSD.  But that was only for 17 days and 23 sports.  This time, there is the additional Paralympics (OK, on a smaller scale but they have to use the ADA-compliant buses for the Paras), so there is a great dislocation for the LAUSD.  But I guess ten years away, I hope they have factored that in with the LAUSD and in the bid.   With the Paralympics and 35 sports in 4 years' time, LA28 will probably be like 45% larger and longer than what it was in 1984.  Where will they get 168 grand pianos this time for the Opening?  :blink:

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4 hours ago, Australian Kiwi said:

I've made tentative plans with a friend based in SF to attend LA28 - I'm excited :) I've never been to the Olympics before (although I was in China during the 2008 Games, but didn't specifically go to any events).

just to be sure... you guys won't be commuting from SF, right? cause that's like 6 hours away...

that being said, I hope the plans go through and that you enjoy your time here :)

12 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

But I guess ten years away, I hope they have factored that in with the LAUSD and in the bid.

Well the Games dates are what they are because of the academic year, so I assume there is some communication with LAUSD. Fortunately the Olympics end on July 30, and less buses will be needed during the Paralympics in August which is when the school year starts.

22 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

They're going to have to bring in buses from Vegas, San Diego and the SF Bay Area.  Oh, and the drivers too??

seems like it, yeah... it seems like the drivers and their associated costs are included in the $700M-1B figure

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3 minutes ago, Bear said:

just to be sure... you guys won't be commuting from SF, right? cause that's like 6 hours away...

that being said, I hope the plans go through and that you enjoy your time here :)

 

No, we will stay in LA :) My mate there is Australian and now lives permanently in the US.

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On 4/5/2024 at 2:56 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

Of course, this did not factor in Wasserman's decision to add 5 more new sports.  34 or 35 sports are just RIDICULOUS!! I don't know who Wasserman is trying to please with the scope he committed LA too. 

The sheer logistics are simply going to be staggering. How about Games volunteers?  The extra workers for the hotels?  I really hope the subway can make the planning less of a nightmare. They're going to have to bring in buses from Vegas, San Diego and the SF Bay Area.  Oh, and the drivers too?? 

If transport (& other challenges) is (are) starting to become a bit of a concern for a well-prepared city like L.A., can you just imagine what it'll be like for the subsequent host then. :wacko:

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Just in time for all those IOC big whigs who’d like to take a quick side-trip to Sin City during the ‘28 Games:

 

Construction begins on high speed rail line connecting Las Vegas, Southern California


 

The train will cut driving time almost in half. It's expected to be done in time for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.

 

 

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/construction-begins-high-speed-rail-line-las-vegas-southern-california/509-2af9209f-9fbf-4da3-8d5c-a8c3bc624094

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26 minutes ago, cfm Jeremie said:

There is a joint marketing programme between LA28 and USOPC so any sponsor is a sponsor for both organisation.

From the top down, yes.  But what if a company can only afford the USOPC level -- and not make the LA28 level? Should the USOPC turn it down then?  So, from the bottom up, it cannot be mutual. 

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Paris 2024 🤝 Los Angeles 2028

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https://www.sortiraparis.com/en/news/olympic-games-paris-2024/articles/313989-olympics-a-fresco-in-the-18th-arrondissement-marks-the-link-between-paris-2024-and-los-angeles-2028

"Linked by the double award of the Games, the two Olympic cities are multiplying their joint artistic and sporting projects, with seven events planned between now and the end of 2024."

 

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We have a new CEO! And he's a... retired US Army lieutenant general??? and worked for the CIA??? well that's certainly something!

"A U.S. Army and National Guard veteran, Hoover earned the rank of Lieutenant General, with three stars. Most recently, Hoover served as Deputy Commander, U.S. Northern Command at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs from 2016 until he retired in 2018. Among his many military assignments, he oversaw logistics as Commander, Joint Sustainment Command Afghanistan, during Operation Enduring Freedom from 2009 until 2010, and he commanded the 167th Theater Sustainment Command from 2011 until 2014. Hoover’s early military career was focused on explosive ordnance disposal, including during Operation Desert Storm in 1990 and 1991, for which he was awarded a Bronze Star. Hoover also provided military explosive ordnance disposal support at the 2002 Olympic Winter Games in Salt Lake City, Utah. Upon his retirement in 2018, he was awarded the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, the highest non-combat award and the highest joint service decoration in the Department of Defense."

"Hoover also served in several senior civilian roles in the federal government, including the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) as Chief of Staff from 2002-2003, then as Director, Office of National Security Coordination from 2003-2005. He also served as Special Assistant to the President (George W. Bush) for Homeland Security from 2005-2007; and, worked as Deputy Director, Office of Public Affairs and Logistics Support Officer at the Central Intelligence Agency from 2011 until 2016, retiring in 2018."

https://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/story/2024-06-05/la28-names-retired-lieutenant-general-reynold-hoover-its-new-ceo

https://la28.org/en/newsroom/la28-announces-new-ceo.html

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