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Just found this on Twitter, this was announced back in June.. 

So based on that, they are completely rebuilding the baseball stadium and they're going to reverse the orientation of the field.  Right now, the field faces northwest.  In this new configuration, it will face mostly to the east, towards the existing Uytengsu Aquatics Center.
 

I think the moral of the story here is that they could have done any or all of this without the Olympics being there.  But now they can basically tell LA2028 "do whatever you want with this space" and then they're ready for all the brand new construction afterwards

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19 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

Just found this on Twitter, this was announced back in June.. 

So based on that, they are completely rebuilding the baseball stadium and they're going to reverse the orientation of the field.  Right now, the field faces northwest.  In this new configuration, it will face mostly to the east, towards the existing Uytengsu Aquatics Center.
 

I think the moral of the story here is that they could have done any or all of this without the Olympics being there.  But now they can basically tell LA2028 "do whatever you want with this space" and then they're ready for all the brand new construction afterwards

That's why I was thrown off when I posted on the previous page that the orientation of the rendering was all wrong vis-a-vis the Uytengsu.  So, it looks like from the LA28 rendering, they've turned it around already and the "roofed" portion of the stands (for the working press desks, I imagine) will now be facing west?? 

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1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said:

Just found this on Twitter, this was announced back in June.. 

So based on that, they are completely rebuilding the baseball stadium and they're going to reverse the orientation of the field.  Right now, the field faces northwest.  In this new configuration, it will face mostly to the east, towards the existing Uytengsu Aquatics Center.
 

I think the moral of the story here is that they could have done any or all of this without the Olympics being there.  But now they can basically tell LA2028 "do whatever you want with this space" and then they're ready for all the brand new construction afterwards

i thought you knew about this lol

however I do now realize that the orientation of the field in the USC renderings is different than the orientation shown in the LA28 renderings and how it is now which is interesting and slightly confusing

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From Ground Level Upwards

This Commercial Aquatics.com.au link covers multiple installation of temporary swimming and diving pools over the last 20-30 years.

For instance, did you know that the Atlanta 1996 Olympic swimming pool at Georgia Tech was a temporary pool installed in only 12 days, and later reinstalled at Lake Highland Preparatory School in Florida (p.26) ?

It’s clear that in most cases the pools are installed upwards on flat ground or flooring and the pool decking etc is built upward from there.

Still trying to check if some Temporary Diving Pool installations were dug down a bit below ground level.

Temporary Competition Pools:  Installation and Repair

Repair and replenishment after big concerts (e* Rolling Stones, Adele, Coldplay, etc) is standard operating procedure, as it is if you plonk a couple of competition pools on a stadium’s grassy infield, a carpark or even on top of the the hard permanent floor of an existing stadium (eg  2007: video temporary pool installation - Rod Laver Arena Melbourne - World Swimming Championships).

So the 2028 Dedeaux Field competition swimming pool will be built upwards from turf level since it is a temporary pool.  Under the raised decking goes the temporary ground level filtration tanks, water pumps and pipes. All that just needs to be connected to a water pipe which should be easy to do at USC. 

The competition Diving Pool may need to be dug into the turf but this is not clear from what I can find.  Either way, turf and soil can always be repaired and replenished. 

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2 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

Just found this on Twitter, this was announced back in June.. 

So based on that, they are completely rebuilding the baseball stadium and they're going to reverse the orientation of the field.  Right now, the field faces northwest.  In this new configuration, it will face mostly to the east, towards the existing Uytengsu Aquatics Center.
 

I think the moral of the story here is that they could have done any or all of this without the Olympics being there.  But now they can basically tell LA2028 "do whatever you want with this space" and then they're ready for all the brand new construction afterwards

Excellent find @Quaker2001

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7 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

That's why I was thrown off when I posted on the previous page that the orientation of the rendering was all wrong vis-a-vis the Uytengsu.  So, it looks like from the LA28 rendering, they've turned it around already and the "roofed" portion of the stands (for the working press desks, I imagine) will now be facing west?? 

The swim venue rendering does look like it accounts for some of the current Dedeaux stadium into the design, but if everything that makes up for the baseball stadium now is going to be gone after the Olympics, then it stands to reason it'll be gone *before* the Olympics if it's not necessary to build the swim stadium.  Once again, speaks to the fact that this rendering was probably created before all the plans for the rebuilt baseball stadium were put together.  And that the actual swim stadium may not look like the rendering.

5 hours ago, Bear said:

i thought you knew about this lol

however I do now realize that the orientation of the field in the USC renderings is different than the orientation shown in the LA28 renderings and how it is now which is interesting and slightly confusing

I knew there were plans for a renovation to Dedeaux, but this is the first time I've seen renderings that they're changing the orientation.  Dedeaux Field isn't a fully enclosed stadium in the tradition sense.  There are the stands and the support buildings on the baselines, but the outfield is mostly just fences and trees.  And if you compare the current stadium with the new plans (not from exactly the same angle, but close enough), you can also see what they're doing with the tennis courts at the bottom.  They're moving those around the move the footprint of the stadium so that there will be more room adjacent to the stadium and the aquatic center for expanded practice fields.

All of this clearly could happen if they weren't using that space for a temporary Olympic venue.  But I guess they figure if there's already going to be a major construction project there, why not use that opportunity to deliver a brand new baseball stadium on the same site.  And USC has the money for their obligations here, as opposed to the part of this that falls on LA2028.

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@ OzFan, 

Nope; per insurance laws in California presently, I don't think Dedeaux-Oly config will be built above the ground.  I remember when I had my first condo in SF, our main building was built over parking stalls, per industry parlance, it was called "architecture on stilts." It had a stinking connotation to it.  

Since then, major insurers have left the state (in my current residence outside SF, the cheapest insurance we can get for my complex -- and we DON'T have "stilt" architecture in this one -- is only for $5 mil (used to be for $65 mil previously) and with a deductible of $50K. 

Also, all those filtration tanks, etc., might not be used for the new pool.  One reason they picked that site beside Uytengsu is that the new pools will just piggy back or attach to the existing filtration system of Uytengsu.  And as mentioned, come the Paralympics, you would have all those extra ramps to get the disabled swimmers up and down the raised platform?  Absolutley whackamoo! 

Long story short, NO WAY will LA28's insurer allow a temp arena sitting 20,000 to be built on stilts 10-12 feet above the ground.  And that's why they've set aside at least a whole year & some to build the whole thing; that means digging and securing the stands properly; then taking it all down again, re-orienting and erecting the new baseball field.  If it will be an above-ground affair (including the stands raised higher), you don't need 14 months to get it ready.  

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12 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

@ OzFan, 

Nope; per insurance laws in California presently, I don't think Dedeaux-Oly config will be built above the ground.  I remember when I had my first condo in SF, our main building was built over parking stalls, per industry parlance, it was called "architecture on stilts." It had a stinking connotation to it.  

Since then, major insurers have left the state (in my current residence outside SF, the cheapest insurance we can get for my complex -- and we DON'T have "stilt" architecture in this one -- is only for $5 mil (used to be for $65 mil previously) and with a deductible of $50K. 

Also, all those filtration tanks, etc., might not be used for the new pool.  One reason they picked that site beside Uytengsu is that the new pools will just piggy back or attach to the existing filtration system of Uytengsu.  And as mentioned, come the Paralympics, you would have all those extra ramps to get the disabled swimmers up and down the raised platform?  Absolutley whackamoo! 

Long story short, NO WAY will LA28's insurer allow a temp arena sitting 20,000 to be built on stilts 10-12 feet above the ground.  

 

We’ll soon find out I guess.  Pop-up temporary elevators or those stairway access devices for wheelchairs are easy to install and now very common, should ramps not be suitable for disabled athletes and spectators. So again, there is no insurmountable obstacle to provide access for all to a raised pool deck level common at temporay pool installations.

Temporary pop-up competition swimming pools are becoming more and more the norm these days built upward from ground level.  These rapid pool installations are  often then moved after that competition to other permanent locations within that country.

Any temporary grandstands built around temporary pools will of course always need to be securely anchored and comply with local building standards, including being able to withstand earthquakes - that’s nothing new to California and USA generally, including insurance companies.

Here are some examples of these:

2004 Long Beach, California:  US Olympic Trials

  • In the carpark of the Long Beach Arena, two temporary pools were built in a complete temporary structure, the Charter All Digital Aquatic Centre.  Yes, in a carpark.
  • The temporary complex was built in less than one month and hosted 10,000 spectators.
  • Both competition and warm-up pools were dismantled after the trials and shipped to their permanent homes in Yucaipa city and New Jersey respectively.

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2012 Omaha:  US Olympic Swimming Trials - Century Link Center

  • two temporary 50 metre pools covering the lower bowl of the Century Link Center were installed

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2008 Omaha: US Olympic Swimming Trials - Qwest Center

  • two temporary 50 metre pools were installed on the playing field inside the Omaha Qwest Center, commonly used for basketball, hockey or concerts

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2004 Indianapolis:  FINA World Swimming Championships (25 m) - Conseco Fieldhouse

  • in Conseco Fieldhouse, the home of the Indian Pacers baskeball team, two temporary pools were installed, one for competiton and one for warm-up
  • both swimming pools had the Strathlenturbulenz water recirculation systems

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1996 Atlanta: Centenary Olympic Games - Georgia Institute of Technology

  • Myrtha Pools built a temporary pool for the water polo competition which was installed in only 12 days and afterwards moved to Lake Highland Prepatory School in Florida.
  •  earlier I mistakenly thought it was the swimming pool which was temporary but in fact it was the water polo pool at Atlanta 1996 which was temporary.

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Credit:   Myrtha Pools - International Competition References

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/\/\ You don't live in CA.  I do.  I know the ground conditions and insurance laws, policies, numbers have tightened over the years.  Major insurers are not only dropping big California clients, but in Florida as well.  You quote how a temp pool is ready in 12 days.  No argument there.  Why then have they set aside over a year to erect this Aquatics venue and take it down--close the venue at the start of the 2027 schoolyear, so August or September--have the US Trials in May or June; the OGs in July-August; Paras in late August-Sept; and right after that, turn it over back to USC by, I guess October 2028?  That doesn't sound like a credible timeline for "temporary over-night-build" structures. 

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1 minute ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\ You don't live in CA.  I do.  I know the ground conditions and insurance laws, policies, numbers have tightened over the years.  Major insurers are not only dropping big California clients, but in Florida as well.  You quote how a temp pool is ready in 12 days.  No argument there.  Why then have they set aside over a year to erect this Aquatics venue and take it down; and turn it over to USC by, I guess October 2028?  That doesn't sound like a credible timeline for "temporary over-night-build" structures. 

Like you've been saying, this isn't a rush job.  They have several months and millions of dollars to work with.  @AustralianFan gives some good insight why most of these temporary pools are built above ground.  You make a good point about accessibility, especially for the Para athletes, but building the pool below ground means you would need a much larger footprint than just the pool itself and that's a lot of dirt that would need to be move and eventually replaced.  That seems much more difficult (and unnecessary) than erecting a structure completely above ground where it's likely that some of the space under the stands can be made useful and not just to provide the space around the pool for certain features and functions like you mentioned above.

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1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said:

Like you've been saying, this isn't a rush job.  They have several months and millions of dollars to work with.  @AustralianFan gives some good insight why most of these temporary pools are built above ground.  You make a good point about accessibility, especially for the Para athletes, but building the pool below ground means you would need a much larger footprint than just the pool itself and that's a lot of dirt that would need to be move and eventually replaced.  That seems much more difficult (and unnecessary) than erecting a structure completely above ground where it's likely that some of the space under the stands can be made useful and not just to provide the space around the pool for certain features and functions like you mentioned above.

Yeah, I thought about some of the earth that would be removed and returned.  Well, they need to raise the LA Memorial Coliseum FOP floor another 11-12 feet for Athletics. That is also a USC facility.  So, MAYBE, what better place to park some of the excavated soil from Dedeaux Field to the Coliseum pit?  After September '28, return said "borrowed" dirt back to Dedeaux Field?  I think the timelines would dovetail perfectly.  

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23 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\ You don't live in CA.  I do.  I know the ground conditions and insurance laws, policies, numbers have tightened over the years.  Major insurers are not only dropping big California clients, but in Florida as well.  You quote how a temp pool is ready in 12 days.  No argument there.  Why then have they set aside over a year to erect this Aquatics venue and take it down--close the venue at the start of the 2027 schoolyear, so August or September--have the US Trials in May or June; the OGs in July-August; Paras in late August-Sept; and right after that, turn it over back to USC by, I guess October 2028?  That doesn't sound like a credible timeline for "temporary over-night-build" structures. 

The actual installation and removal of the Dedeaux Field temporary grandstands and pools will be rapid, as always. It’s literally like a giant mecano set - bolt it together, fill it with water.

The Trojans Baseball Team will lose their access to Dedeaux Field for a season for all of these things to happen:

1.   preparation for and installation / removal of temporary pools, grandstands, other overlay and hospitality facilities, security screening, perimeter fencing, lockdown for the 2028 Olympic/Paralympic Games,

2.  realignment of the baseball field and construction of the new permanent facilities after the Games in readiness for the 2029 baseball season.

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47 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\ You don't live in CA.  I do.  I know the ground conditions and insurance laws, policies, numbers have tightened over the years.  Major insurers are not only dropping big California clients, but in Florida as well.  You quote how a temp pool is ready in 12 days.  No argument there.  Why then have they set aside over a year to erect this Aquatics venue and take it down--close the venue at the start of the 2027 schoolyear, so August or September--have the US Trials in May or June; the OGs in July-August; Paras in late August-Sept; and right after that, turn it over back to USC by, I guess October 2028?  That doesn't sound like a credible timeline for "temporary over-night-build" structures. 

 

8 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

The actual installation and removal of the Dedeaux Field temporary grandstands and pools will be rapid, as always. It’s literally like a giant mecano set - bolt it together, fill it with water.

The Trojans Baseball Team will lose their access to Dedeaux Field for a season for all of these things to happen:

1.   preparation for and installation / removal of temporary pools, grandstands, other overlay and hospitality facilities, security screening, perimeter fencing, lockdown for the 2028 Olympic/Paralympic Games,

2.  realignment of the baseball field and construction of the new permanent facilities after the Games in readiness for the 2029 baseball season.

 Also, the US Olympic Swimming Trials will very likely not be held at Dedeaux Field, but at another USA location.

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13 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

The actual installation and removal of the Dedeaux Field temporary grandstands and pools will be rapid, as always. It’s literally like a giant mecano set - bolt it together, fill it with water.

The Trojans Baseball Team will lose their access to Dedeaux Field for a season for all of these things to happen:

1.   preparation for and installation / removal of temporary pools, grandstands, other overlay and hospitality facilities, security screening, perimeter fencing, lockdown for the 2028 Olympic/Paralympic Games,

2.  realignment of the baseball field and construction of the new permanent facilities after the Games in readiness for the 2029 baseball season.

It won't be as rapid as some of the examples you cited.  This isn't an empty lot they're putting a stadium up for with little regard for support facilities.  They have more than enough time after the spring of 2027 baseball season to be ready in time for the Olympics and then once that and the Paralympics are over, plenty of time to build the new stadium and be ready in time for the spring of 2029.

6 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

 Also, the US Olympic Swimming Trials will very likely not be held at Dedeaux Field, but at another USA location.

I'm sure they'll want to hold a test event there.  Might not be the Olympic trials, but that also pulls up the timeline so that they're ready early enough to make sure everything is good to go.

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3 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

 

 Also, the US Olympic Swimming Trials will very likely not be held at Dedeaux Field, but at another USA location.

And you know this because you are an expert on matters that have happened on this side of the Pacific?  :rolleyes:

The most successful Olympic programme in history will throw away its home-field advantage to acclimate its own athletes to a home-grown Olympic Games in the very venue where they can keep and show their mastery of the sport once again?  :blink:  Hmmm.  Should I overlook the fact that you are an Aussie and your boys & gals would offer the strongest challenge to the host US team?  Should I not have peeled off that secret membrane?  

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4 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

And you know this because you are an expert on matters that have happened on this side of the Pacific?  :rolleyes:

The most successful Olympic programme in history will throw away its home-field advantage to acclimate its own athletes to a home-grown Olympic Games in the very venue where they can keep and show their mastery of the sport once again?  :blink:  Hmmm.  Should I overlook the fact that you are an Aussie and your boys & gals would offer the strongest challenge to the host US team?  Should I not have peeled off that secret membrane?  

I mean... the 1984 and 1996 US Olympic Trials in swimming were neither in LA or Atlanta, its reasonable to think that the 2028 trials might be somewhere other than LA.

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30 minutes ago, Bear said:

I mean... the 1984 and 1996 US Olympic Trials in swimming were neither in LA or Atlanta, its reasonable to think that the 2028 trials might be somewhere other than LA.

Remains to be seen.  But still, they would have to break in the venue and test all systems.  So why wouldn't the US Trials be the perfect occasion to do that?  What foreign teams would pay in order to get acclimated in the actual "Olympic" pool or FOP?   

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3 hours ago, Bear said:

I mean... the 1984 and 1996 US Olympic Trials in swimming were neither in LA or Atlanta, its reasonable to think that the 2028 trials might be somewhere other than LA.

The trials have become a much larger event than they were in the 80s and 90s.  In 1992, 1996, and 2000 they were held in Indianapolis at the IU Natatorium.  They're returning to Indy in 2024 after the last 4 were in Omaha.  Expect this one isn't at IU.  It's in Lucas Oil Stadium.. us-swimming-trials-rendering.jpgThat's how big this event is now where they are putting it in a football stadium.  I don't know where the 2028 trials will be, but I'm sure cities will be jockeying for the right to host it.  But why not have it at this grand new temporary facility with all the seating that will be there.

Also worth noting.. the 1992 and 1996 trials were held in March, well before the games.  So it wasn't really an option to use the Georgia Tech venue for that.  The 2028 trials will likely be only a little over a month before the Games.  So it will be an option then

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14 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\ You don't live in CA.  I do.  I know the ground conditions and insurance laws, policies, numbers have tightened over the years.  Major insurers are not only dropping big California clients, but in Florida as well.  You quote how a temp pool is ready in 12 days.  No argument there.  Why then have they set aside over a year to erect this Aquatics venue and take it down--close the venue at the start of the 2027 schoolyear, so August or September--have the US Trials in May or June; the OGs in July-August; Paras in late August-Sept; and right after that, turn it over back to USC by, I guess October 2028?  That doesn't sound like a credible timeline for "temporary over-night-build" structures. 

Baron, living in California or Australia or Siberia has nothing to do with being able to google this stuff.   This is not about nationalistic or USA-centric parochialism, it’s all about googling it from anywhere on the planet by Olympic fans such as ourselves.

Here’s what I googled about the USA Olympic Swimming Trials.

USA Olympic Swimming Trials have been held in rapid installation Temporary Pools in every Games Year since 2004 -   that’s over an amazing 19 years.

In other words, for 6 successive Summer Olympic Games up to Paris 2024.

In recent decades, the USA Olympic Swimming Trials are roughly around 1 month or so before each Summer Olympic Games.   So yes, USA swimming select their Olympic Swim Team very close to the Summer Games start date.

For 2028 Dededeux Field’s temporary pool in 2028, this would very like preclude US Swimming to hold the Olympic Trials in the temporary pool at Dedeaux Field since the facility will likely entering or actually already be in Olympic security lockdown mode and not available for use.  By all accounts, these temporary pools are rapid installations - they have it down to a fine art and so using

So yes, I stand by my prediction from here in Australia thousands of miles away that the 2028 USA Olympic Swimming Trials will not be held at the Dedeaux Field temporary pool, nor in the adjacent 1984 venue.   My bet is that, as they have done for every Summer Games since 2004, that the 2028 US Olympic Swimming Trials will be held in a temporary rapid installationpool in another USA location such possibly Omaha or Lucas Oil Stadium - but most definitely not in the actual Olympic Swimming Pool at Deceaux Field.

QUESTION FOR THE DAY: 

>> Are Host Olympic Nations Allowed to Hold Their Own National Olympic Swimming Trials in the actual competition pool of Their Home Olympics? <<

 Does anyone know the answer to this?
On the SwimSwam website, a fan commented that they “read somewhere that Host Oly pic Nations are not allowed to hold their own Olympic Swimming Trials in their own home Olympics competition pool.  But I have not been able to confirm if this is true?

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Here’s what I found on some of the US Olympic Swimming Trials and Pools in 1932 and from 1984 onwards:

USA OLYMPIC SWIMMING TRIALS AND POOLS:   1932 and 1984 onwards

1932 Los Angeles

  • US Olympic Swim Trials:  Cincinatti (men’s) 13 - 16 July (men’s), Long Island 15 - 16 July (women’s)
  • Games pool: (permanent) Los Angeles Swimming Stadium 6 - 13 Aug

 

1984 Los Angeles

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 25 - 30 June
  • Games pool: (permanent) McDonalds Olympic Swim Stadium, USC 28July-4 Aug

 

1988 Seoul

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Austin (permanent) 8 - 13 Aug
  • Games pool: (permanent) Jamsil Indoor Swimming Pool 18 - 25 Sep

 

1992 Barcelona

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 1 - 7 Mar
  • Games pool: (permanent) Piscines Bernat Picornell 26 - 31 July

 

1996 Atlanta

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 6 - 12 Mar
  • Games pool:  (permanent)  Georgia Tech Aquatic Centre 20 - 26 July

 

2000 Sydney

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 9 - 16 Aug
  • Games pool:  (permanent) Sydney Int. Aquatic Centre 16 - 23 Sep

 

2004 Athens

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   Long Beach (temporary) 7 - 14 July
  • Games pool: Athens Olympic Aquatic Centre (permanent) 14 - 21 Aug

 

2008 Beijing

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   Omaha (temporary)  29 June - 6 July
  • Games pool:  Beijing National Aquatics Centre (permanent) 9 - 17 Aug

 

2012 London

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   Omaha (temporary)  25 June - 2 July
  • Games pool:  London Aquatics Centre (permanent)  28 July - 4 Aug

 

2016 Rio de Janeiro

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Omaha (temporary)  26 June - 3 July
  • Games pool:  Olympic Aquatics Stadium (permanent)  6 - 13 Aug

 

2021 Tokyo

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Omaha (temporary) 4-7 June & 13-20 June 
  • Games pool:   Tokyo Aquatics Centre (permanent) 24 July - 1 Aug

 

2024 Paris

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  *Indianapolis (temporary)  15 - 23 June
  • *three temporary pools to be installed on the field of Lucas Oil Stadium
  • Games pool:  Paris Aquatics Centre (permanent) 27 July - 9 Aug

 

2028 Los Angeles

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   dates/venue of USA SwimmingTrials not announced as yet
  • Games pool:  Dedeaux Field (temporary) - approx. 8 days from 15 July 2028

 

2032 Brisbane

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   dates/venue of US SwimmingTrials not announced as yet
  • Games pool:  Brisbane Arena  (temporary) - approx. 8 days from 24 July 2032

 

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32 minutes ago, cfm Jeremie said:

Swimming in Paris (as well as final of Water Polo) will take place in a temporary pool at Paris La Défense Arena.

Excellent, thanks @cfm Jeremie. You’re absolutely right re Paris 2024, new building but a temporary pool.

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(Paris 2024 swimming venue corrected in this report):

Here’s what I googled about the USA Olympic Swimming Trials.

USA Olympic Swimming Trials have been held in rapid installation Temporary Pools in every Games Year since 2004 -   that’s over an amazing 19 years.

In other words, for 6 successive Summer Olympic Games up to Paris 2024.

In recent decades, the USA Olympic Swimming Trials are roughly around 1 month or so before each Summer Olympic Games.   So yes, USA swimming select their Olympic Swim Team very close to the Summer Games start date.

For 2028 Dededeux Field’s temporary pool in 2028, this would very like preclude US Swimming to hold the Olympic Trials in the temporary pool at Dedeaux Field since the facility will likely entering or actually already be in Olympic security lockdown mode and not available for use.  By all accounts, these temporary pools are rapid installations - they have it down to a fine art and so using

So yes, I stand by my prediction from here in Australia thousands of miles away that the 2028 USA Olympic Swimming Trials will not be held at the Dedeaux Field temporary pool, nor in the adjacent 1984 venue.   My bet is that, as they have done for every Summer Games since 2004, that the 2028 US Olympic Swimming Trials will be held in a temporary rapid installation pool in another USA location such possibly Omaha or Lucas Oil Stadium - but most definitely not in the actual Olympic Swimming Pool at Deceaux Field.

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Here’s what I found on some of the US Olympic Swimming Trials and Pools in 1932 and from 1984 onwards:

USA OLYMPIC SWIMMING TRIALS AND POOLS:   1932 and 1984 onwards

1932 Los Angeles

  • US Olympic Swim Trials:  Cincinatti (men’s) 13 - 16 July (men’s), Long Island 15 - 16 July (women’s)
  • Games pool: (permanent) Los Angeles Swimming Stadium 6 - 13 Aug

 

1984 Los Angeles

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 25 - 30 June
  • Games pool: (permanent) McDonalds Olympic Swim Stadium, USC 28July-4 Aug

 

1988 Seoul

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Austin (permanent) 8 - 13 Aug
  • Games pool: (permanent) Jamsil Indoor Swimming Pool 18 - 25 Sep

 

1992 Barcelona

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 1 - 7 Mar
  • Games pool: (permanent) Piscines Bernat Picornell 26 - 31 July

 

1996 Atlanta

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 6 - 12 Mar
  • Games pool:  (permanent)  Georgia Tech Aquatic Centre 20 - 26 July

 

2000 Sydney

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Indianapolis (permanent) 9 - 16 Aug
  • Games pool:  (permanent) Sydney Int. Aquatic Centre 16 - 23 Sep

 

2004 Athens

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   Long Beach (temporary) 7 - 14 July
  • Games pool: Athens Olympic Aquatic Centre (permanent) 14 - 21 Aug

 

2008 Beijing

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   Omaha (temporary)  29 June - 6 July
  • Games pool:  Beijing National Aquatics Centre (permanent) 9 - 17 Aug

 

2012 London

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   Omaha (temporary)  25 June - 2 July
  • Games pool:  London Aquatics Centre (permanent)  28 July - 4 Aug

 

2016 Rio de Janeiro

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Omaha (temporary)  26 June - 3 July
  • Games pool:  Olympic Aquatics Stadium (permanent)  6 - 13 Aug

 

2021 Tokyo

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  Omaha (temporary) 4-7 June & 13-20 June 
  • Games pool:   Tokyo Aquatics Centre (permanent) 24 July - 1 Aug

 

2024 Paris

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:  *Indianapolis (temporary)  15 - 23 June
  • *three temporary pools to be installed on the field of Lucas Oil Stadium
  • Games pool:  Aquatics Centre (temporary) 27 July - 9 Aug

 

2028 Los Angeles

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   dates/venue of USA SwimmingTrials not announced as yet
  • Games pool:  Dedeaux Field 20,000 (temporary) - approx. 8 days from 15 July 2028

 

2032 Brisbane

  • US Olympic Swim Trials pool:   dates/venue of US Swimming Trials not announced as yet
  • Games pool:  Brisbane Arena 15,000  (temporary) - approx. 8 days from 24 July 2032
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QUESTION FOR THE DAY: 

>> Are Host Olympic Nations Allowed to Hold Their Own National Olympic Swimming Trials in the actual competition pool of Their Home Olympics? <<

 Does anyone know the answer to this?


On the SwimSwam website, a fan commented that they “read somewhere that Host Oly pic Nations are not allowed to hold their own Olympic Swimming Trials in their own home Olympics competition pool.  But I have not been able to confirm if this is true?

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