Los Angeles 2028

[Max]

Thank You, good to see the venue placement in the valley, basically slalom course next to Lake Balboa, equestrian on the adjacent golf course, basically all on victory (i take victory on the way to and from work, totally will try to visualize it today)

I do hope new Clippers Arena will get gymanstics and Volleyball move to the forum (love the honda center but it's little far to drive for a game and make it back for track or something)

Also City of Champions Stadium should get something more then ceremonies, whether it's soccer final (i think it might host the soccer final in the fifa world cup 2 years prior), or perhaps something else that they would want to add before the games.

I do hope to see MLB players in 2028, seeing as it will be played at Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium it will be fitting, though probably not.

Why did they decide not to have tennis at indian wells? too far, or the heat in the summer of palm springs? it's a far superior tennis venue then anything else in the l.a area and does have a major tournament there

 

[JesseSaenz]

On 9/22/2017 at 3:33 PM, RuFF said:

This is going to gain traction in Los Angeles. The opposition is going to mount an effective assault on City Hall, and in turn the 2028 Olympics. This article outlines arguments the opposition has that are easily proven. I think their arguments are appropriate, too. If LA is to host a successful Olympics it's going to have address these issues. This is, perhaps, a place all host cities and the IOC can learn.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/20493/torching-los-angeles-2028-olympic-plans-police-state

It has been well documented that the 1984 Games were the beginning of LA's woes with police all which culminated in with the ugly riots of 1992.

The city and its law enforcement agencies, along with the secret service will need to make sure that they don't over police and that will be a monumental task.

[Nacre]

On 9/18/2017 at 2:55 PM, Max said:

Why did they decide not to have tennis at indian wells? too far, or the heat in the summer of palm springs? it's a far superior tennis venue then anything else in the l.a area and does have a major tournament there

It is too far away for the athletes. It is farther than Vancouver to Whistler, and they had a second athletes village in Whistler.

[ejaycat]

Took some pictures over the weekend of the progress of construction for the new soccer stadium being built next to the Coliseum.  It's really moving right along.

 

Oh, and I'll include some pics I took of Angels Flight, which reopened earlier this month.  I love this cute little funicular.

Then of course there's the Grand Central Market across the street.

 

OK I'll stop.

 

[paul]

the angels flight thingy is so cute....never did it....it reminds me of a mini version of the peak tram in Hong Kong.

Edited September 27, 2017 by paul

[baron-pierreIV]

Huh?  Where is that Angels Flight?  

[JMarkSnow2012]

1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Huh?  Where is that Angels Flight?  

Hill Street to S. Olive Street, about 300 metres north-east of Pershing Square, just reopened in August after a lengthy closure.

So cute ! I want one !

[Rob2012]

Go to Hastings
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g186274-d2264957-Reviews-Cliff_Railways-Hastings_East_Sussex_England.html

Edited September 27, 2017 by Rob.

[ejaycat]

20 hours ago, paul said:

the angels flight thingy is so cute....never did it....it reminds me of a mini version of the peak tram in Hong Kong.

You should ride it some time.  It's only a buck one way, 50 cents if you have a valid Metro TAP card.  And, if you buy the two-way fare, you get a cute, old-timey Angels Flight ticket stub:

Photo by me

 

It's a nice little trip from say the Grand Central Market to the top of Bunker Hill to get to The Broad or Disney Hall or the Music Center or MOCA, and vice versa.  And of course it's been seen in movies over many decades, from the silent film era, to film noir, to modern films:

Hehe... Do I need to say the name of this movie? 

 

Scene from "Cry of the Hunted," 1953:

 

Angels Flight, 1905

LAPL

 

Angels Flight, 1910

LAPL

 

Angels Flight, 1927

LAPL

 

Angels Flight, 1930s.

 

 

Angels Flight, 1957

LAPL

 

Angels Flight, 1960s.  As you can see, the demolition of the old structures on Bunker Hill was already well under way.  Angels Flight was removed in 1969 and placed in storage, with the promise that it would be back within two years.  By the early 1970s, all the Beaux Arts and Victorian-era structures of Bunker Hill were gone---and Angels Flight was still in storage.  It didn't get reinstalled until 1996.  This tunnel still exists, but when Angels Flight was reinstalled, it was done so half a block south of here, on Hill Street halfway between 3rd and 4th Streets...

LAPL

... because 3rd and Hill in downtown LA now looks like this.  A senior citizens' housing complex was built over the 3rd Street tunnel portal in the 1980s, so even if they wanted to put Angels Flight in its original location, they couldn't.

Google Street View

 

Peggy Lee (!) riding Angels Flight, 1968.  I don't think it gave her "Fever."

LAPL

 

For those not familiar with Angels Flight, here's a package from CBS This Morning, which talks about its history in a nutshell.  I was actually surprised that a national morning news show covered the grand reopening of Angels Flight.

 

OK, I'll stop it with Angels Flight. 

Edited September 28, 2017 by ejaycat

[baron-pierreIV]

It's nothing like San Francisco's cable cars!! 

[baron-pierreIV]

Uh-oh . . .

Los Angeles' legendary palm trees are dying – and few will be replaced

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/29/los-angeles-palm-trees-dying 

[JesseSaenz]

On 9/30/2017 at 6:20 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

Uh-oh . . .

Los Angeles' legendary palm trees are dying – and few will be replaced

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/29/los-angeles-palm-trees-dying 

Yeah. I remember back like in 2007 learning about this. Additionally, a beattle from Saudi Arabia is also  killing them.

[ejaycat]

Like the article says, I don't think palm trees will completely disappear, I think they will just plant fewer of them.

And like styles of architecture, landscaping goes through a cycle of what's in and what's not, even with street trees.  Decades ago, for some reason, ficus trees were really popular as a street tree, but then decades later, we've learned that the roots really damage streets and sidewalks.  It seems to me that in the 70s, palm trees weren't even fashionable anymore, as many newer developments at the time seemed to have canary island pine and eucalyptus (like where I grew up in Cerritos; Irvine also has a lot of eucalyptus that were planted in the 1970s, which is funny because a eucalyptus is also kind of an impractical tree as a street tree).  You didn't start seeing palms again until the 90s.  A decade ago, it seemed that gingko biloba  trees started getting planted all over the place.

Shade trees are nice; I live in an area full of native California oaks, many of them about a hundred years old.  I think another "iconic" tree associated with SoCal, though it's not a native tree, and can be messy, is the jacaranda, with their purple flowers.  

[JesseSaenz]

Dumb question(s), so I apologize in advance.

When do host cities move from their bid logo to their official logo?

Has there ever been a city that retained its bid logo for its official host city logo?

Will Paris & LA release them at the same time? 

As much as I like both Paris and LAs bid logos, I am getting kind of bored of them, and we are still 7 and 11 years away. Haha

[Rob2012]

20 hours ago, JesseSaenz said:

When do host cities move from their bid logo to their official logo?

Usually two years after the bid is won. I would assume LA will wait until 2023. It's a funny (but nice) position for LA to be in at the moment. Not quite sure what the bid committee has to do that can't wait until 2021 or later

[Nacre]

I would love to see Joshua trees planted in Los Angeles, but I am not sure how well they would do there. They are not native to that part of California, but if humans had not killed off the giant ground sloths they would probably be established in LA by now.

Edited October 6, 2017 by Nacre

[baron-pierreIV]

On 10/5/2017 at 3:08 PM, JesseSaenz said:

Has there ever been a city that retained its bid logo for its official host city logo?   None.  The IOC now tells them to change logos. 

Will Paris & LA release them at the same time?   They shouldn't.  Now to 2024 is Paris' time to shine.  But both will release them ahead of their quadrennium in order to sign up the sponsors -- and the final logo is an integral part of that sales pitch.  

 

[JesseSaenz]

On 10/6/2017 at 10:56 AM, RuFF said:

As expected, Metro is going to leverage the Olympics to fast track the transportation network buildout. 

28 projects for ‘28...

Thank goodness.

Measure M was the safety net, but the Olympics was, whether they want to admit it or not, their Plan A.

And of course its voter approved. My guess is that they will work on some of the smaller projects first with maybe 2 or 3 standout lines. I doubt they will work on their 50 year plan all in 10 years.

[JesseSaenz]

6 hours ago, RuFF said:

More on 28 by 28..

https://therealdeal.com/la/2017/10/10/28-by-28-garcetti-wants-transportation-projects-to-hurry-up-legally/

also, Metro is looking to fast rack the Green\Crenshaw line further into the South Bay. 

https://la.curbed.com/2017/10/9/16449624/metro-green-line-torrance-extension

A private-public partnership for the Sepulveda pass makes sense. I hope the go through with it an go with it at full throttle.

On my wish list for 28' is the extension of the Crenshaw Line through Koreatown, West Hollywood and terminating at the Hollywood/Highland Station. I also think they should extend the Subway from Wilshire/Vermont down to AT LEAST MLK/Vermont. That would mean two rail lines servicing Expo Park/USC Area. One running East/West, the other, north south.

And IDEALLY, it would be great if the Purple Line terminated at Santa Monica and not at UCLA/Veterans hospital. I mean it WAS dubbed "Subway to the Sea" for a reason.

 

[Nacre]

6 hours ago, RuFF said:

Meanwhile, in Paris:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-13/paris-feels-olympics-pinch-as-painful-transport-choices-loom

but is any of this a surprise? 

Why? Because America >>>>>> France? Why is it that you highlight any issue with the non-USA bids, yet somehow never post any criticism of LA's potential pitfalls, such as whether California High Speed Rail will be able to service the 2028 games?

In any case the criticism in Paris is not that the Olympic plan will not be financed or non-viable, but rather a fight between commuters and tourists/Olympic fans.

[Quaker2001]

On 10/13/2017 at 9:31 AM, RuFF said:

Meanwhile, in Paris:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-13/paris-feels-olympics-pinch-as-painful-transport-choices-loom

but is any of this a surprise? 

No.  Nothing about your irrational vendetta against Paris is a surprise.

[mr.bernham]

17 hours ago, RuFF said:

Ms. Quaker has been triggered. She’s going to start spewing her gay club vitriol that her community accepts, unless personally offended. The irony of that community.

Jesus Christ. You're the reason we need abortion. 

[Rob2012]

This forum is a toilet and has been for a while. 

[JMarkSnow2012]

3 hours ago, Rob. said:

This forum is a toilet and has been for a while. 

Toilets have lost a lot of their romance in recent years ...

[Quaker2001]

17 minutes ago, RuFF said:

Tickets to game 1 of the world series start at 900.00 and average ticket prices in excess of 3,300 each. 56,000 seats, and about 4,000 tickets left... including dugout seats that start at over 12,000. 

Not that the World Series ticket prices matter but they provide a good hint at what Opening Ceremony tickets could take  in. 

Those are prices for tickets on the secondary market.  The actual face value is much lower.  It goes without saying that tickets for the Opening Ceremony will be in high demand, but they won't be priced that high by the organizing committee.