fusilli Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 They can always meet halfway and do final in Gibraltar! (if they have stadia, OC). Quote
Sir Rols Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 Anything else FIFA can think of to ease the way for the Saudis? Fifa’s relaxed stadium rule clears path for Saudi Arabia to host 2034 World Cup 1 Quote
SportLightning Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 If Saudi Arabia wins 2034 bid, it could lift ban on Alcohol in the kingdom according to their plans as part of Saudi Vision 2030. Quote
yoshi Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 FIFA 2034 Bidding Regulations (full): 1) Be Saudi Arabia. Ends. 3 Quote
stryker Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, SportLightning said: If Saudi Arabia wins 2034 bid, it could lift ban on Alcohol in the kingdom according to their plans as part of Saudi Vision 2030. No chance. The ultra conservative clerics will not allow it. That ranks right up rhere with the idea that stadiums in Mecca and Medina could be used given both cities are closed to non-Muslims. This will be a dry WC, a gender segregated WC, and likely one where female spectators must dress conservatively if not be required to wear the abaya I do wonder if the events in Israel might be causing FIFA to think "ok how much do we need to pay off the refs in the Israeli qualifiers to make sure they don't qualify." China is still the wild card here. If they decide to bid they'd be the prohibitive favorite. If they decide to do so I think they will wait until the end of the Asian Games and Xi, one who likes the spotlight,will make the announcement. Quote
SportLightning Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 You think they won't lift the aclohol ban for 2034, but guess what? https://talksport.com/football/1590945/saudi-arabia-suspend-alchol-ban-world-cup-jordan-henderson/#:~:text=Saudi Arabia could reportedly allow,neighbouring country Qatar last year. Quote
stryker Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, SportLightning said: You think they won't lift the aclohol ban for 2034, but guess what? https://talksport.com/football/1590945/saudi-arabia-suspend-alchol-ban-world-cup-jordan-henderson/#:~:text=Saudi Arabia could reportedly allow,neighbouring country Qatar last year. Your source includes a link to a tabloid journal in The Sun. This is not a reputable source. If this was under consideration, it would be in the Saudi press. It's not. The Kingdom is dry and it will stay dry as far as booze goes. You might want to look up how Saudi society is structured. The clerics hold sway. Quote
Quaker2001 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 Qatar was awarded their World Cup in December of 2010. They had a 12 year lead up to their event and literally at the last possible minute, the alcohol issue was still at question. Could easily see a similar situation happening here where FIFA is saying 1 thing and the Saudis are saying another and not until everyone shows up for the World Cup do we find out what's actually going on. And you know sponsors like Budweiser having gone through this once already will be much more aware of what they're stepping into Quote
stryker Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Quaker2001 said: Qatar was awarded their World Cup in December of 2010. They had a 12 year lead up to their event and literally at the last possible minute, the alcohol issue was still at question. Could easily see a similar situation happening here where FIFA is saying 1 thing and the Saudis are saying another and not until everyone shows up for the World Cup do we find out what's actually going on. And you know sponsors like Budweiser having gone through this once already will be much more aware of what they're stepping into This is an X factor that gets overlooked in the topic of a Saudi WC: Control. By the time the WC began in 2022, it was clear and it was reported in the media, that FIFA effectively lost control of their own tournament. When the alcohol decision came down, the tents were moved in the night before the news hit the press. Qatar made the move without talking to FIFA and made it clear the topic was not up for discussion. The Saudis could easily do the same whether the issues are alcohol, gender segregation, women's dress, and at that point there is no recourse for FIFA to do anything. They cannot strip the WC over some broken promises on the eve of the tournament. And the Saudis have an ace of spades card they've already played. A couple months ago the Saudi Minister of Sport (might've been the head of the Saudi Football Federation I don't recall) said any attempt to get Saudi Arabia to change their laws for the World Cup would amount to Islamaphobia. So they are already framing the argument that criticism of how the Saudis would handle a WC is not constructive but prejudiced towards Muslims. Quote
fusilli Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 God, this mega extra-continent edition makes look United'26 like a yard game already. Although it's still to be seen if all of these nominees will finally make it.. starting from Argentina.. Quote
Quaker2001 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, fusilli said: God, this mega extra-continent edition makes look United'26 like a yard game already. Although it's still to be seen if all of these nominees will finally make it.. starting from Argentina.. The 3 South American nations are each slated to only host 1 game apiece, so they're not exactly full participants. And of the 3, the one I'm least concerned about is Argentina Quote
Quaker2001 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, stryker said: This is an X factor that gets overlooked in the topic of a Saudi WC: Control. By the time the WC began in 2022, it was clear and it was reported in the media, that FIFA effectively lost control of their own tournament. When the alcohol decision came down, the tents were moved in the night before the news hit the press. Qatar made the move without talking to FIFA and made it clear the topic was not up for discussion. The Saudis could easily do the same whether the issues are alcohol, gender segregation, women's dress, and at that point there is no recourse for FIFA to do anything. They cannot strip the WC over some broken promises on the eve of the tournament. And the Saudis have an ace of spades card they've already played. A couple months ago the Saudi Minister of Sport (might've been the head of the Saudi Football Federation I don't recall) said any attempt to get Saudi Arabia to change their laws for the World Cup would amount to Islamaphobia. So they are already framing the argument that criticism of how the Saudis would handle a WC is not constructive but prejudiced towards Muslims. I've brought it up here before. With the Olympics, the IOC treats it as their event, but they charge the organizing committee with running the show. Whereas with the World Cup, FIFA gives much more authority to the host nation. It's their event with FIFA giving them the guidelines. Hence why FIFA and Qatar weren't on the same page and Qatar was so easily able to pull the switcheroo at the last minute. One would think FIFA wouldn't want to make that same mistake again. But it's clear they are very interested in holding this event in Saudi Arabia and who knows what concessions they'll make in order for that to happen. The moment the envelope for Qatar was opened, there was no turning back for that same reason that any backlash against them would seem racially motivated. I'm sure Saudi Arabia was watching 2022 very closely and designing their own playbook. Quote
SportLightning Posted January 4, 2024 Report Posted January 4, 2024 I found the possible bid logo design for Morocco-Portugal-Spain 2030. I heard reports that Morocco could have 19 venues in their bid including the most likely picks of Casablanca, Rabat, Tangier, Agadir, Marrakech and Fez. Which means Morocco will lead the joint bid. Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) Just realized that FIFA Men's WC 2030 will be the 3rd *bi-hemispheric, FIRST tri-continental, bi-seasonal sports event wherein 3 Opening games will be held in the South American winter in June/July 2030 after which the main body of games will then transfer to the northern summer of the Iberian peninsula and Morocco. (And the first in which the major host, Spain, still will have two exclaves—Ceuta and Melilla—existing in the 3rd 2030 host country, Morocco.) *Of course 1/16th of the 1956 Melbourne Olympics were the Equestrian held in Stockholm. However, the events in Stockholm were never labelled as a subset of Melbourne 1956. It was an aberration. And Paris 2024 will have Surfing in Tahiti which is south of the equator too -- but both events will be held under the same flag. [I wonder which will be the 3 "sacrificial lamb" teams who will open with Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay' and then head off to Europe-Morocco to finish the tournament? Would it be a riot if the 3 'guest" lambs were Spain, Portugal and Morocco? ] Edited January 10, 2024 by baron-pierreIV x 1 Quote
SportLightning Posted January 13, 2024 Report Posted January 13, 2024 On 1/9/2024 at 3:30 PM, baron-pierreIV said: Just realized that FIFA Men's WC 2030 will be the 3rd *bi-hemispheric, FIRST tri-continental, bi-seasonal sports event wherein 3 Opening games will be held in the South American winter in June/July 2030 after which the main body of games will then transfer to the northern summer of the Iberian peninsula and Morocco. (And the first in which the major host, Spain, still will have two exclaves—Ceuta and Melilla—existing in the 3rd 2030 host country, Morocco.) We already heard it before. Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted January 13, 2024 Report Posted January 13, 2024 3 hours ago, SportLightning said: We already heard it before. Well, I didn't. Quote
SportLightning Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 I heard the organizers won't finalize venues and hosts for matches until June. https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2024/02/360764/world-cup-2030-joint-bid-committee-says-no-decision-yet-on-stadiums-or-hosts-for-matches Quote
SportLightning Posted March 19, 2024 Report Posted March 19, 2024 The bid logo and slogan has been finalized. The Yalla Vamos 2030 bid website and social media pages have been launched. https://yallavamos2030.com/en Social media pages: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61553930475683 (Facebook) https://www.instagram.com/yallavamos2030/ (Instagram) https://www.youtube.com/@yallavamos2030 (YouTube) The website is available in five languages of Arabic, English, French, Portuguese and Spanish. Quote
SportLightning Posted March 29, 2024 Report Posted March 29, 2024 The logo has two languages with the English version on the left and the Arabic version on the right. Quote
SportLightning Posted April 3, 2024 Report Posted April 3, 2024 Spain's chances of hosting the final for the event in Madrid is facing scrutiny over recent troubles from their former president of their football federation, means Morocco could host the final in Casablanca. Quote
sebastien1214 Posted April 3, 2024 Report Posted April 3, 2024 I don't see in what world Morocco will host the final. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm giving no more than a 5% chance. Without this absurdity of screwing up 3 matches in South America (next to Infantino, Thomas Bach is a saint), Morocco could however have been the logical candidate to have the opening match, but that will not be the case. What seems likely to me: - final and small final in Spain - semi-final in Portugal - the other semi-final in Morocco We can, if necessary, put the small finale in Portugal or Morocco in order to better balance. But I don't see in what world Morocco will have the final. 1 Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted April 4, 2024 Report Posted April 4, 2024 On 4/3/2024 at 6:46 AM, sebastien1214 said: But I don't see in what world Morocco will have the final. Morocco will attack Ceuta and Melilla unless the Iberians agree to have the final in Casablanca? Quote
Roger87 Posted April 4, 2024 Report Posted April 4, 2024 On 4/3/2024 at 3:50 AM, SportLightning said: Spain's chances of hosting the final for the event in Madrid is facing scrutiny over recent troubles from their former president of their football federation, means Morocco could host the final in Casablanca. Like your prediction as Asuncion as host of the Pan Am Games? Just in case - in 2034 the event will be in Saudi Arabia and you think the actions of Rubiales, who was sacked and is currently on process, will have any effect? Please, be serious. Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted June 26, 2024 Report Posted June 26, 2024 On 10/7/2023 at 12:52 PM, SportLightning said: Casablanca hosting the final is currently in discussion. I heard that coupe of days ago which Fouzi Lekjaa the president of the Royal Moroccan Football Federation and chairman of the 2030 committee said. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38575980/2030-world-cup-morocco-spain-battling-host-final You were saying about Casablanca as the 2030 finals city? (That's a typo in the headline. They mean 2030.) FIFA want to host 2023 World Cup Final at the Santiago Bernabeu -report (msn.com) And, uhmmm, the "Casablanca" that really matters at the moment is at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington DC -- not in Morocco. 1 Quote
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