FIFA World Cup 2030: Morocco, Portugal & Spain (+ Uruguay, Argentina & Paraguay)

[Rob2012]

Subtle as a brick, FIFA.

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China's hopes of hosting the 2030 World Cup got a boost from FIFA.

The governing body of soccer proposes giving its ruling council the power to decide that a continent could skip just one World Cup before hosting again.

In a legal text published Wednesday ahead of next week's FIFA Congress in Bahrain, the governing body said the flexibility in hosting would be allowed "if circumstances so require." That could [conveniently] let China bid to host the 2030 World Cup only eight years after Qatar.

The centenary 2030 World Cup is expected to bring a South American co-hosting bid that includes Uruguay, the original tournament host in 1930.

Still, Chinese firms have targeted FIFA, including property and cinema giant Dalian Wanda Group, which last year signed a top-tier sponsorship through 2030.

"As a partner of FIFA, Wanda will be better placed to play a role in the bidding process to host major football events such as the World Cup," Wanda said in March 2016.

FIFA imposed the two-tournament block last October, barring European members from 2026 World Cup bidding because Russia is hosting in 2018. That favored the North American co-hosting bid by the United States, Canada and Mexico.

Now, FIFA wants to formalize an amendment to its statutes when members meet on May 11 in Manama.

"In principle () ... the event shall not be awarded to members of the confederations that hosted the two previous editions," the proposed text says, though adding: "If circumstances so require, the Council may decide otherwise in accordance with the applicable regulations."

 

https://apnews.com/7d80fafd5d704193affea1a785864894

Edited February 5, 2024 by Sir Rols

[yoshi]

Oh FFS...just give it to them now. I'd rather they were honest & just award it by acclamation than go through the charade of a rigged bid process, & having countries enter & spend money, time, emotion etc for no reason other than to allow the pretence of fairness, only to dump them like a shot when the 'vote' comes round. Where next, Saudi Arabia 2034?

[Quaker2001]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.. isn't there a similar provision in place for 2026?  Basically saying that UEFA can bid, but only if none of the other eligible confederations have a reasonable bid.  So this sounds a lot like that.  There's smoke here, but not a lot of fire.  Still seems like this would only be considered if UEFA and CONMEBOL both fail to produce a bid, and that seems extremely unlikely to happen, IMO

[zekekelso]

3 hours ago, yoshi said:

Oh FFS...just give it to them now.

But if they give it to China now, that cuts of the flow of bribes.This was is much better for FIFA. 

[Rob2012]

43 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.. isn't there a similar provision in place for 2026?  Basically saying that UEFA can bid, but only if none of the other eligible confederations have a reasonable bid.  So this sounds a lot like that.  There's smoke here, but not a lot of fire.  Still seems like this would only be considered if UEFA and CONMEBOL both fail to produce a bid, and that seems extremely unlikely to happen, IMO

Doesn't read like that to me. It reads to me like they really want China in there from the start, not merely in the unlikely event no single European or South American nation submits a bid. So they've had to make this change from 2026 to allow that possibility.

Not that I'm surprised, FIFA has done this for pretty much every bid cycle since 2010. "This is how it'll be going forward", then change it four years later because it doesn't suit them anymore.

[baron-pierreIV]

Yeah, I think they want China as a back-up  for 2030 because I don't see how URU-ARG (even with the addition of Chile) could realistically host 48 teams.  And how big would the Confederations Cup be?  

[zekekelso]

5 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Yeah, I think they want China as a back-up  for 2030 because I don't see how URU-ARG (even with the addition of Chile) could realistically host 48 teams.  And how big would the Confederations Cup be?  

Hosting 48 teams isn't that hard and doesn't take that many resources. You simply have more games per stadium. Training/hosting space for the teams won't be hard to find. 

48 teams does water-down the quality of teams and makes a mess of the near-perfect balance the current tournament has. But that's a different issue for a different day. Logistically, it's a non issue. 

[baron-pierreIV]

3 hours ago, zekekelso said:

Hosting 48 teams isn't that hard and doesn't take that many resources. You simply have more games per stadium. Training/hosting space for the teams won't be hard to find. 

48 teams does water-down the quality of teams and makes a mess of the near-perfect balance the current tournament has. But that's a different issue for a different day. Logistically, it's a non issue. 

And you know this because you have managed a tournament of this size?  

[intoronto]

13 hours ago, zekekelso said:

Hosting 48 teams isn't that hard and doesn't take that many resources. You simply have more games per stadium. Training/hosting space for the teams won't be hard to find. 

48 teams does water-down the quality of teams and makes a mess of the near-perfect balance the current tournament has. But that's a different issue for a different day. Logistically, it's a non issue. 

Stadiums yes... but what about the training venues? You need 16 more of those.

[Roger87]

Also security and logistics with the training venues.

[gotosy]

SKorea leader proposes Asian nations co-host 2030 World Cup

 

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea’s new liberal president has offered to co-host the 2030 World Cup with rival North Korea and other Northeast Asian countries as part of efforts to promote peace in the region, his office said Monday.

Moon Jae-in made the proposal during a meeting with FIFA President Gianni Infantino at the presidential Blue House in Seoul, Moon’s office said in a statement.

“If neighboring Northeast Asian countries including South and North Korea can host the World Cup, I think that would contribute to peace between South and North Korea and in the Northeast Asian region,” Moon told Infantino, according to Moon’s office. “I would like President Infantino to have interests on this matter.”

Infantino was quoted as saying he respects Moon’s idea and that he will talk to Chinese President Xi Jinping about it when the two meet later this week.

China and Japan reportedly want to host World Cup games individually. Also, last week the prospect for Moon’s push to expand cross-border exchanges with North Korea was thrown into doubt as North Korea rejected a Seoul civic group’s offer to provide relief items.

Before taking office last month, Moon had said he would try to reach out to North Korea and improve ties badly strained over the North’s nuclear and missile programs. Since Moon’s May 10 inauguration, however, North Korea has conducted several missile launches in a show of its resolve to continue its weapons development program to cope with what it calls U.S. hostility.

The two Koreas have been divided along the world’s most heavily fortified border since the 1950-53 Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty. About 28,500 American troops are stationed in South Korea as deterrence against potential aggression from North Korea.

The organizers of the 2018 Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea, hope North Korea will take part in the Winter Games.

North Korea boycotted the 1986 Asian Games and the 1988 Seoul Olympics, both held in Seoul, but it has since attended other major international sports events held in the South.

South Korea and Japan co-hosted the 2002 World Cup.

 

AP

https://www.apnews.com/fa6ae3053a08413b885ee8e0b6ab47c4/SKorea-leader-proposes-Asian-nations-co-host-2030-World-Cup?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Sports

[Roger87]

4 hours ago, gotosy said:

SKorea leader proposes Asian nations co-host 2030 World Cup

 

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea’s new liberal president has offered to co-host the 2030 World Cup with rival North Korea and other Northeast Asian countries as part of efforts to promote peace in the region, his office said Monday.

Moon Jae-in made the proposal during a meeting with FIFA President Gianni Infantino at the presidential Blue House in Seoul, Moon’s office said in a statement.

“If neighboring Northeast Asian countries including South and North Korea can host the World Cup, I think that would contribute to peace between South and North Korea and in the Northeast Asian region,” Moon told Infantino, according to Moon’s office. “I would like President Infantino to have interests on this matter.”

Infantino was quoted as saying he respects Moon’s idea and that he will talk to Chinese President Xi Jinping about it when the two meet later this week.

China and Japan reportedly want to host World Cup games individually. Also, last week the prospect for Moon’s push to expand cross-border exchanges with North Korea was thrown into doubt as North Korea rejected a Seoul civic group’s offer to provide relief items.

Before taking office last month, Moon had said he would try to reach out to North Korea and improve ties badly strained over the North’s nuclear and missile programs. Since Moon’s May 10 inauguration, however, North Korea has conducted several missile launches in a show of its resolve to continue its weapons development program to cope with what it calls U.S. hostility.

The two Koreas have been divided along the world’s most heavily fortified border since the 1950-53 Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty. About 28,500 American troops are stationed in South Korea as deterrence against potential aggression from North Korea.

The organizers of the 2018 Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea, hope North Korea will take part in the Winter Games.

North Korea boycotted the 1986 Asian Games and the 1988 Seoul Olympics, both held in Seoul, but it has since attended other major international sports events held in the South.

South Korea and Japan co-hosted the 2002 World Cup.

 

AP

https://www.apnews.com/fa6ae3053a08413b885ee8e0b6ab47c4/SKorea-leader-proposes-Asian-nations-co-host-2030-World-Cup?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Sports

Because it worked so well the first time lol. But with 48 teams, now it's understandable

[gotosy]

Uruguay and Argentina to launch joint 2030 World Cup bid

South American neighbors Uruguay and Argentina are set to launch a joint bid to host the 2030 FIFA World Cup. Uruguay hosted the inaugural competition in 1930 and wants to do so again to mark the event's centenary.

Uruguay and Argentina are set to launch a joint bid to host the 2030 World Cup, the Uruguayan President Tabare Vazguez said on Monday.

The official announcement is to be made when Argentine President Mauricio Macri visits Uruguay on August 30, before the two countries meet in a World Cup 2018 qualifier in Montevideo on August 31.

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http://www.dw.com/en/uruguay-and-argentina-to-launch-joint-2030-world-cup-bid/a-40187939

 

[gotosy]

Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay to make 2030 World Cup bid

 

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay say they will make a joint bid to host soccer's centenary World Cup in 2030.

The presidents of the three South American countries made the announcement Wednesday at the presidential palace in Buenos Aires. Bidding is not due to open for at least another four years, but the nations are already expected to face stiff competition.

 

European soccer federations will be eligible to bid, while China is also expected to express interest in hosting the tournament.

http://www.theeagle.com/sports/argentina-paraguay-uruguay-to-make-world-cup-bid/article_231a7106-3ad1-5a10-9318-f9643f682946.html

 

 

[yoshi]

Paraguay?! Bit left-field. 

[baron-pierreIV]

Nothing happening on the 2030 front?  Won't they be naming the 2030 host next year? 

[Chris_Mex]

47 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Nothing happening on the 2030 front?  Won't they be naming the 2030 host next year? 

Bidding process starts in the second quarter of this year, don't know the date exactly, and the decision will be made in 2024, 6 years before the cup

[munichfan]

3 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Nothing happening on the 2030 front?  Won't they be naming the 2030 host next year? 

UEFA has come to an agreement. England for UEFA Euro 2028 - Spain and Portugal for the 2030 WC - Italy for 2032. The most influential continental confederation stands united (at least for now). Anything other than these three would come as a huge surprise to me.

[SportLightning]

I predict Argentina/Chile/Paraguay/Uruguay for 2030 FIFA World Cup. It would be fantastic for South America to host first time since 2014 in Brazil. Paragyay has never hosted a FIFA World Cup. Argentina hosted the FIFA World Cup in 1978, Chile hosted it in 1962 and Uruguay hosted the inaugural FIFA World Cup in 1930. So that would a huge fit for the centennial FIFA World Cup.

[baron-pierreIV]

On 3/2/2022 at 1:26 PM, SportLightning said:

I predict Argentina/Chile/Paraguay/Uruguay for 2030 FIFA World Cup. It would be fantastic for South America to host first time since 2014 in Brazil. Paragyay has never hosted a FIFA World Cup. Argentina hosted the FIFA World Cup in 1978, Chile hosted it in 1962 and Uruguay hosted the inaugural FIFA World Cup in 1930. So that would a huge fit for the centennial FIFA World Cup.

They'll really have to study how it comes off in 2026.  Otherwise, because they are linguistically and culturally aligned, there shouldn't be too many problems coalescing a 4-nation event.  

[SportLightning]

10 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

They'll really have to study how it comes off in 2026.  Otherwise, because they are linguistically and culturally aligned, there shouldn't be too many problems coalescing a 4-nation event.  

Either yes or no. I just depends on FIFA agreement with CONMEBOL for 2030. Colombia, Ecuador and Peru are also interested of hosting. seven South American countries are bidding.

[baron-pierreIV]

7 minutes ago, SportLightning said:

 seven South American countries are bidding.

Doesn't mean it's going to happen. Too much.  Can you imagine 7 flags and names on the logo -- and SEVEN 'bye" places?  

Absurd; not gonna happen.  

Edited March 5, 2022 by baron-pierreIV

[Victorian]

Australia and New Zealand will host

[SportLightning]

3 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Doesn't mean it's going to happen. Too much.  Can you imagine 7 flags and names on the logo -- and SEVEN 'bye" places?  

Absurd; not gonna happen.  

 

Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay are in their joint bid. Colombia, Ecuador and Peru and in a different joint bid separately despite part of CONMEBOL.

 

2 hours ago, Victorian said:

Australia and New Zealand will host

Australia and New Zealand are focusing on 2034 World Cup bid and the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup.

[baron-pierreIV]

15 hours ago, SportLightning said:

 

Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay are in their joint bid. Colombia, Ecuador and Peru and in a different joint bid separately despite part of CONMEBOL.

You weren't clear about that -- so I misunderstood.  Still, I don't see how Colombia, Ecuador and Peru can better host a 48-nation tournament vs. the rival Argentine-led bid.  Plus, Uruguay carries the sentimental Centennial nostalgia for the event.  Of course, whatever matches are held in BA and Montevideo (I guess, the semis- and the finals) are going to be held in the southern part's Winter season.