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8 minutes ago, anthonyliberatori said:

Just curious as to what the requirements are in order to have a legitimate bid for the Games. Thanks to anyone who can help!

I imagine that it probably something similar to that of what is required for the regular Summer Olympics, but scaled down in capacity. I'm just wondering if there are any specifics as to what a city must have/build, must budget, and must promise in order to formulate a successful bid.

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1 hour ago, anthonyliberatori said:

I imagine that it probably something similar to that of what is required for the regular Summer Olympics, but scaled down in capacity. I'm just wondering if there are any specifics as to what a city must have/build, must budget, and must promise in order to formulate a successful bid.

Some of the requirements are here:http://images.toronto2015.org/system/asset_pdfs/869/original/paso-statute-may-2010.pdf

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6 hours ago, intoronto said:

Thank you so much, that helped a lot! I see that the USA hasn't hosted a PAG since 1987 in Indianapolis, so I was trying to think of whether or not any US cities could host them within the upcoming years.

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3 hours ago, anthonyliberatori said:

Thank you so much, that helped a lot! I see that the USA hasn't hosted a PAG since 1987 in Indianapolis, so I was trying to think of whether or not any US cities could host them within the upcoming years.

They could but they would need solid political support and then again the USOC needs to get on board (though they don't seem to be interested).

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6 hours ago, intoronto said:

They could but they would need solid political support and then again the USOC needs to get on board (though they don't seem to be interested).

I understand. Quite sad actually, I think the PAG movement in the US could definitely draw more interest within the country. Maybe once our administration changes or if LA 2024 fails could the possibility arise. I think cities like Philadelphia, San Diego, Baltimore, Washington DC, San Francisco, New Orleans and Seattle would be prime candidates. Not too large of cities, but they are definitely cities that could host a possible Olympic Games in the future if the amount of venues and international recognition is there. I highly doubt another Atlanta 1996 will ever be pulled again by choosing the non-world recognized underdog, especially considering the amount of cities worldwide that want to host the Olympics nowadays, but a PAM in the USA could up the possibility of a different US city hosting the Olympics.

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San Antonio should have hosted in 2007, but the folks from Rio convinced PASO that SA was too crime-ridden to host the games. Well, if anyone should know....

I like that you are not required to have a 60000 seat stadium for athletics, and most of the venues are of a nice scale relative to the event. There are any number of American cities that possess a more than adequate sporting infrastructure in order to host. The problem is that the Pan Am Games fell off the nations's sporting radar after Indy in 1987.

I hope they do come back soon, I'd rather do another Pan Am Games before I ever attend another Olympics. It's easier on the finances and just as enjoyable.

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On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 9:29 PM, BTHarner said:

San Antonio should have hosted in 2007, but the folks from Rio convinced PASO that SA was too crime-ridden to host the games. Well, if anyone should know....

I like that you are not required to have a 60000 seat stadium for athletics, and most of the venues are of a nice scale relative to the event. There are any number of American cities that possess a more than adequate sporting infrastructure in order to host. The problem is that the Pan Am Games fell off the nations's sporting radar after Indy in 1987.

I hope they do come back soon, I'd rather do another Pan Am Games before I ever attend another Olympics. It's easier on the finances and just as enjoyable.

I feel you. Plus if done correctly, it could help improve infrastructure, tourism, and put that given city on a higher pedestal when it comes to international presence. Could even prep a city for a future Olympic Games. LA is nice and all, but I wish another city could get the spotlight for a little. If Atlanta hadn't hosted 1996, there's no doubt in my mind that the city would be much different than it is today.

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Most aquatic venues in recent games have been around 5000 capacity. According to Wikipedia, the venue for Lima 2019 will seat 9000. I think 5000 would be fine for any Games in America, given that the likes of Phelps and Lochte never bothered to compete in a Pan Am Games.

Adding to my previous reply, I have often wondered what it would take to bring the Games back and, frankly, I have trouble seeing how it could be a profitable venture. TV networks aren't going to throw money at you just for the privilege of broadcasting the Pan Am Games, and you can't price the tickets too high.Corporate support would be unpredictable and using public funds for sporting entities is anathema anymore. Add in all the political minefields that need to be navigated and it just seems to be an overwhelming task.    

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Well now that it seems Santiago 2023 is a sure thing, I'd say that 2027 would be a great opportunity for the USA. Unfortunately, there hasn't been that much interest for the PanAms in the US, but of course of all nations in the Americas it has the largest number of cities that could pull of great games. Cities like San Francisco, San Antonio, Dallas, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, Minneapolis perhaps? And in my heart, I'd really say I'd like to see Detroit host the PanAms.... even though I know that's really a long shot.

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15 hours ago, rubio said:

Well now that it seems Santiago 2023 is a sure thing, I'd say that 2027 would be a great opportunity for the USA. Unfortunately, there hasn't been that much interest for the PanAms in the US, but of course of all nations in the Americas it has the largest number of cities that could pull of great games. Cities like San Francisco, San Antonio, Dallas, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, Minneapolis perhaps? And in my heart, I'd really say I'd like to see Detroit host the PanAms.... even though I know that's really a long shot.

PASO is going to open a office in Miami in July. Miami might not be a stretch for 2027...

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On 6/13/2017 at 4:41 AM, rubio said:

Well now that it seems Santiago 2023 is a sure thing, I'd say that 2027 would be a great opportunity for the USA. Unfortunately, there hasn't been that much interest for the PanAms in the US, but of course of all nations in the Americas it has the largest number of cities that could pull of great games. Cities like San Francisco, San Antonio, Dallas, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, Minneapolis perhaps? And in my heart, I'd really say I'd like to see Detroit host the PanAms.... even though I know that's really a long shot.

I would like to see almost any of these cities host a PanAm Games, specifically Boston, Philly, or SanFran. But now with LA 2028, that could act as a repellent and push away certain cities in the US that are considering, fearing their preparations and work may be overshadowed. 2031 may be most likely, because with a possible FIFA WC in 2026, LA 2028, and a possible Winter Olympics in either 2026 or 2030, whichever US city decides to bid for PanAm could use the other host's successes and failures to milk out the most successful of all of those Games in that 5 year time frame. 

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However, I don't think the USOC would want to entertain that kind of event with not one, but two possible Olympics on its plate. I think if LA would've lost to Paris and the double award wouldn't have happened, it would've been a perfect time for a city like Boston, Seattle, Philly, or even LA, to step up and host the Pan Am Games for 2027 or 2031, but ultimately, it likely will not happen until 2035, and only if there is interest.

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I personally believe that 2031 would be the perfect time for the US to host a PAN AM games. I think if you look at what the Rhine-Ruhr model in Germany is doing by spreading events around the entirety of a metropolitan are, you can take that idea and use it for a a set of cities, or an entire state here in the US. I'd say a joint DC- Baltimore bid with the use of the numerous universities in the area, as well as pro-sports infrastructure, to accommodate any need. Also, the Naval Academy is there to be used as well, and there are multiple news bureaus that can be used for an IBC. The Only true hurdles in terms of sports facilities are a top-grade athletics stadium and a velodrome, and even that can be seen as splitting hairs because you could just potentially renovate and use on of the track stadiums at one of the universities in the area. 

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I don't know about 2031 with LA hosting the 2028 Olympics and Salt Lake perhaps hosting the Winter Games in 2030 or 2034. I doubt the USOPC will be interested in presenting a Pan Am bid in that time frame unless PanAm Sports is desperate for a host and a some sort accommodation favorable to the USOPC can be reached.

I like the idea about a DC-Baltimore bid, it being so close to home. However, despite the fact that the Pan Am Games do not require the mega-facilities of the Olympics, the price tag for 2015 and 2019 was more than a billion dollars for each edition. How would a US based games be financially viable? This is an event that fell off the radar of the American sports consciousness decades ago as the marquee athletes decided to pass to save themselves for the increasingly lucrative world championships and world cup events in their respective sports. It will take a heck of a sell job to convince broadcasters and sponsors to support such an event and I think the ship  has sailed in regards to any public funding. 

I wish it would happen, as I still love this event that many have forsaken (in fact I'm watching some of last year's action on the DVR as I write this). The Games are still very relevant in many parts of the Americas, but not so much here.

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I would love to see the U.S. host the Pan Am Games as it has only hosted twice - Chicago 1959 and Indianapolis 1987 - and both were last-minute scrambles to organize. Since the Pan Am Games take place the year before the Olympics, I would think it would be advantageous to pair up the host city when the Olympics are awarded to the U.S. - i.e. Los Angeles host both the 2027 Pan Ams and 2028 Olympics as it would reduce the costs by using the same facilities for both games. It would also increase the marketabiltiy of the Pan Ams in the U.S.  I just don't understand why the USOC doesn't see the advantages of that.  They apparently never considered having LA bid for the 2027 Pan Ams.

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13 hours ago, panamfan said:

I would love to see the U.S. host the Pan Am Games as it has only hosted twice - Chicago 1959 and Indianapolis 1987 - and both were last-minute scrambles to organize. Since the Pan Am Games take place the year before the Olympics, I would think it would be advantageous to pair up the host city when the Olympics are awarded to the U.S. - i.e. Los Angeles host both the 2027 Pan Ams and 2028 Olympics as it would reduce the costs by using the same facilities for both games. It would also increase the marketbiltiy of the Pan Ams in the U.S.  I just don't understand why the USOC doesn't see the advantages of that.  They apparently never considered having LA bid for the 2027 Pan Ams.

And if Los Angeles does held the Pan American Games in 2027, it would have the same scenario as Seoul in South Korea. In this case, Seoul hosted the 1986 Asian Games; two years prior to their hosting of the 1988 Olympics. It acted as a test event to the Olympics, as the venues and facilities that would be used in the 1988 Games, were also used during the Asiad.

 

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