Ikarus360 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Posted June 24, 2017 http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin/2017/06/24/0200000000AKR20170624052100007.HTML According to this article, Moon Jae In is already proposing both Koreas to march as a single team in the Opening Ceremony. Quote PyeongChang Olympics 'simultaneous entry into South and North Korea - a single team' (Seoul-Yonhap News) Lee Dong-chil = 2018 PyeongChang Winter Olympic Games once again the opening of the two Koreas, the two teams will be able to see a single team to enter the opening ceremony. President Moon Jae-in attended the opening ceremony of the 23rd World Taekwondo Championships in Jeju-do, South Jeolla Province on June 24, and proposed a simultaneous entry of the two Koreas at the PyeongChang Olympic Games next February and the formation of a single team for South and North Korea. "I want to feel the impact of the Sydney Olympics in 2000 with the simultaneous entry of the two Koreas," Moon said in a speech at the congratulatory address. "The first World Cup table tennis championships in 1991 and the World Youth Soccer Championships, I want to see the glory again. " As a result, preparations for the formation of a single team for South and North Korea will begin. The joint entry of the Olympic athletes at the PyeongChang Olympic Games is likely to be realized according to the agreement of both sides. South Korea entered the opening ceremony for the first time for the first time in the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney. Since then, the Busan Summer Asian Games, the Aomori Winter Asian Games and the Daegu Summer Universiade in 2002, the Athens Summer Olympics in 2004, the Macao East Asian Games in 2006, the Torino Winter Olympics in 2006 and the Asian Games in Changchun in winter 2007 A total of nine South and North Korean athletes joined hands at the opening ceremony. However, since the election of former President Lee Myung - bak, Beijing has been cut off from the common position since the Beijing Summer Olympics in 2008. In the Winter Olympics, North Korea dispatched a team to Vancouver in 2010, but there was no simultaneous entry. North Korea did not attend the Sochi competition in 2014. At the Pyeongchang convention, whether or not North Korea participates is the key issue for the simultaneous entry into South and North Korea. This is because it is necessary to obtain a quota for the Winter Olympics in a single event to participate in the PyeongChang Olympic Games. North Korea has not secured the right to enter the Olympics yet, and it is said that it is putting the last hope in the figure skating fair etc. If North Korea succeeds in participating in the Olympic Games, it can be concluded in the international sporting event in 11 years after the Asian Games of Changchun Winter 2007 in cooperation with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) However, there is a real obstacle to the formation of a single team from South Korea and North Korea in the women's ice hockey that the government is designing. The two Koreas have held a single team in South Korea side by side in table tennis and soccer in 1991 in a single event, not an international convention. At the 41st World Table Tennis Championships held in Chiba, Japan, a single team from South and North Korea, which played a leading role in the Korean women's signboard and North Korea's Lee Bum Hee, At the World Youth Soccer Tournament held in Portugal in the same year, a single team from South and North Korea gave the impression that they were in the quarter-finals. Unlike a single event, the single team in the Olympics is "mountain-climbing". In the case of women's ice hockey, the Minister of Culture, Sports and Tourism Do Jong-hwan announced that he would push for a single team in PyeongChang. Although Korea is a host country, North Korea needs approval from the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) and the consent of the participating countries in Pyongyang as well as Pyongyang in order to form a single team. First of all, whether or not the Taeguk-mats dreaming for the first time in the Winter Olympics will accept a single team. Once a single team is in place, some of the sweaty players looking at Pyeongchang in a harsh environment may have to close their Olympic dreams. Lee Jong-hwan, the minister of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism, said he would push for a plan to expand the number of 23 Korean tournaments, but it is unclear whether the IOC or the International Federation will approve it. In addition, if the Korean players are more advanced than North Korea, if they form a single team, their performance may fall. In addition, a Canadian manager, Sarah Rahm (29), is in charge of the South Korean national team, and he may have suffered a minor disruption in coaching staff, joint training and overseas training. Nevertheless, it is noteworthy that the new government, which is planning to take Pyeongchang as a "Peace Olympic," will be able to play a role in exchanging inter-Korean exchanges between the two sides. It also mentions the new korean president intentions of turning these games into a "Peace Olympics" event. I still have second thoughts about this but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Quote
intoronto Posted June 24, 2017 Report Posted June 24, 2017 North Korea will likely qualify. The figure skating part is not true, they have a couple skiers who are a couple of races from qualification. It would be interesting to see the two Koreas march together... Quote
Roger87 Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 On 2017-6-24 at 9:50 AM, Ikarus360 said: http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin/2017/06/24/0200000000AKR20170624052100007.HTML According to this article, Moon Jae In is already proposing both Koreas to march as a single team in the Opening Ceremony. It also mentions the new korean president intentions of turning these games into a "Peace Olympics" event. I still have second thoughts about this but I guess we'll have to wait and see. For all the propositions heared from the South Korean president, this is the most reasonable proposition and it can gain more positive press while not pissing the South Korean opposition at all. Quote
Ikarus360 Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Posted June 26, 2017 To be fair, while Kim Jong Il was also a crazy lunatic, he was much more reasonable than the manchild who's ruling NK right now. So it was natural negotiations between him and the Sunshine Policy of former president Kim Dae Jung worked much better. I'm not sure how these would go with Un. Quote
Roger87 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 On 26/6/2017 at 4:16 PM, Ikarus360 said: To be fair, while Kim Jong Il was also a crazy lunatic, he was much more reasonable than the manchild who's ruling NK right now. So it was natural negotiations between him and the Sunshine Policy of former president Kim Dae Jung worked much better. I'm not sure how these would go with Un. Not exactly Olympics, but also SK president proposes hosting together with NK for the 2030 World Cup. Quote
Ikarus360 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Report Posted July 1, 2017 Heh. After how they shamelessly tried to rob the last one they hosted, I hope they don't, tbh. Quote
Ikarus360 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Report Posted July 1, 2017 It's pretty much almost ready, now. (75% complete according to websites) 1 Quote
JMarkSnow2012 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Posted July 1, 2017 16 hours ago, Ikarus360 said: It's pretty much almost ready, now. (75% complete according to websites) That's quite a sturdy platform they're making opposite the VIP stand ! Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted July 1, 2017 Report Posted July 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, JMarkSnow2012 said: That's quite a sturdy platform they're making opposite the VIP stand ! Altho I think the actual lighting will be @ the base (by the rink). Quote
Nacre Posted July 1, 2017 Report Posted July 1, 2017 I think friendliness is the best way to deal with the North Koreans. Let a couple thousand North Koreans visit Seoul and Pyeongchang during the games and see if their home country really is a "worker's paradise" compared to the decadent capitalist south. 1 Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted July 2, 2017 Report Posted July 2, 2017 21 hours ago, Nacre said: I think friendliness is the best way to deal with the North Koreans. Let a couple thousand North Koreans visit Seoul and Pyeongchang during the games and see if their home country really is a "worker's paradise" compared to the decadent capitalist south. They tried that already in 1988. Do you think it worked? Of course not. They have to get rid of Kim Jung Un and his clique. That's the key. Quote
Ikarus360 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said: They tried that already in 1988. Do you think it worked? Of course not. They have to get rid of Kim Jung Un and his clique. That's the key. Actually, no. They were still being ruled by hardline conservatives. Roh Tae Woo, who was the first post-dictatorship president was a member of the military group which was outsted. It was actually Fidel Castro, an expert meddler as always, encouraging the IOC to negotiate North Korea to cohost. They wanted half of the events and special opening ceremonies. Needless to say that was a no-no for the anti communist regime. That's why they, alongside Cuba and other bunch of (thankfully irrelevant) countries boycotted. Quote
Nacre Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 9 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said: They tried that already in 1988. Do you think it worked? Of course not. They have to get rid of Kim Jung Un and his clique. That's the key. Getting rid of the Kim family is impossible so long as they are supported by the North Korean military. The best path to getting rid of the dictators is to show the DPRK's military officials how much better off they would be if they pursue the strategy that Vietnam and China in opening up their society. Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Nacre said: Getting rid of the Kim family is impossible so long as they are supported by the North Korean military. The best path to getting rid of the dictators is to show the DPRK's military officials how much better off they would be if they pursue the strategy that Vietnam and China in opening up their society. That's why I said Kim AND CLIQUE. Kill the top generals as well, if that's necessary. But no one is willing to do it! Quote
JMarkSnow2012 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said: That's why I said Kim AND CLIQUE. Kill the top generals as well, if that's necessary. But no one is willing to do it! One of the great unwritten rules of politics (since at least 1963) is: "Never try to assassinate firmly established leaders of other nations, however problematic- because anybody who survives the attempt may turn out to have effective assassins of their own". Quote
Roger87 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 Any predictions of the director of ceremonies? Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 /\/\ I think Ikarus already published it. It's Korean guys -- look @ the archive files here. Quote
Ikarus360 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Roger87 said: Any predictions of the director of ceremonies? Executive Creative Director will be Song Seung-whan (who did the acclaimed musical show Nanta) , however it seems it will be a mix of other creative members, though it's very hard to get to know about it since everything about it is in korean. 1 Quote
Roger87 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Ikarus360 said: Executive Creative Director will be Song Seung-whan (who did the acclaimed musical show Nanta) , however it seems it will be a mix of other creative members, though it's very hard to get to know about it since everything about it is in korean. Great, thanks Quote
Ikarus360 Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Posted July 4, 2017 While Moon still has innocent dreams that a peaceful coexistence can happen with mad dogs, this happens. US says North Korea fired missile into Japanese waters http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40489750 Quote
baron-pierreIV Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Jeez, Kim Jung Un has some death wish. I wish they would grant it already!! Edited July 4, 2017 by baron-pierreIV Quote
Ikarus360 Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Posted July 4, 2017 Too late already. Its not going to happen without some major crap happening in the region and/or SK getting seriously damaged, hence why all world leaders are hestitant. And the saddest part is NK know this, and keep trolling the entire world without giving a single **** about it. Quote
Roger87 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 Considering both personalities, it's dangerous to have both leaders playing with matches (USA and NK) Quote
KimJongIl Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 You swollen-headed traitor, your ridiculous clamour for "human rights" is nothing but a shrill cry! Weapon test part of ceremony! For conclusion we plan beautiful rings of destructive nuclear fallout. Very Ric Birch. 1 Quote
JMarkSnow2012 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 12 hours ago, Roger87 said: Considering both personalities, it's dangerous to have both leaders playing with matches (USA and NK) On the other hand, with Russia and China playing "good cop" to Trump's Officier Bouchard, some long-term good may yet emerge. 1 Quote
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