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Maybe this will spark up some interest and action tomorrow. I for one will be following he news feeds obsessively tomorrow. I should have faith that Americans will do the right thing. But then again, the mere fact Trump's got this far means it's hard to take any re-assurance that common sense will win out.

Anyway - to all Americans here - go out and vote... the only sane way! 

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i voted in useless california fwiw.

but i also voted in a competent senatorial candidate and against the death penalty (again), and for making those annoying plastic grocery bags illegal. also for more money for transportation in the LA area. voted for pot legalization even though i only tried it once while drunk and don't know if felt it. didn't vote for the deeply flawed condoms on porn stars bill though.

the presidential race is a shitshow, but with sex, drugs, and death on the ballot, there was plenty of exciting stuff on there after all.

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3 hours ago, krow said:

but i also voted in a competent senatorial candidate and against the death penalty (again), and for making those annoying plastic grocery bags illegal. also for more money for transportation in the LA area. voted for pot legalization even though i only tried it once while drunk and don't know if felt it. didn't vote for the deeply flawed condoms on porn stars bill though.

the presidential race is a shitshow, but with sex, drugs, and death on the ballot, there was plenty of exciting stuff on there after all.

That's one sexy ballot - just yesterday they (our parliament) actually scrubbed our chance to vote on anything sexy - same sex marriage - early next year. Your choices are pretty well how I would have voted down the line. Really? A condomns on porn stars bill????????? :wacko:

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4 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

That's one sexy ballot - just yesterday they (our parliament) actually scrubbed our chance to vote on anything sexy - same sex marriage - early next year. Your choices are pretty well how I would have voted down the line. Really? A condomns on porn stars bill????????? :wacko:

you need to get a movement going. public opinion polls can make a big difference.

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25 minutes ago, krow said:

you need to get a movement going. public opinion polls can make a big difference.

Oh believe me, the polls are overwhelmingly for. But without going into the boring nitty gritty, it's become a pawn in party political posturing (how's that for alliteration!). So sad and ridiculous.

So, looks like Florida keeps flipping from red to blue to red to blue every time I check the tracker.

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19 hours ago, JMarkSnow2012 said:

Tough. Even if he got the majority of popular votes he still wouldn't become President.

And that's a big problem. It should be about what the PEOPLE have to say. Not about some fu@ked up (FAR outdated) electoral college BS. 

3 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

So, looks like Florida keeps flipping from red to blue to red to blue every time I check the tracker.

Florida has now been called for Donald Duck, by a margin of just one percent. North Carolina & Ohio have also been called now for DD, too. So all those states they were saying that were likely  going to Hillary are not panning out that way. A lot of arms up in air I'm sure going on. 

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All I can say is very dark days are going to come, specially for inmigrants. I'm afraid this will only make certain people like Le Pen in France, for example, get a huge boost. Looks like intolerance, hatred and protectionism is the new trend for the next years and sadly we're going to have to deal with it. Though remember, there is no evil which lasts 100 years. I hope sanity comes back to people very soon. That is if we're still alive in the next 4 years to come. 

I feel like the only good thing that ever happened this year was the Cubs victory. Seriously. Screw 2016. 

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1 minute ago, Ikarus360 said:

All I can say is very dark days are going to come, specially for inmigrants. I'm afraid this will only make certain people like Le Pen in France, for example, get a huge boost. Looks like intolerance, hatred and protectionism is the new trend for the next years and sadly we're going to have to deal with it. Though remember, there is no evil which lasts 100 years. I hope sanity comes back to people very soon. That is if we're still alive in the next 4 years to come. 

I feel like the only good thing that ever happened this year was the Cubs victory. Seriously. Screw 2016. 

I'm really trying to control myself from lashing out, but really you summed up all my fears.

To think, I was shaken by Brexit. But this???????

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The real winner of this is Russia. Now that he has someone who will obey his interests its safe to say Putin got exactly what he wanted. RT must be throwing a huge party right now. 

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I'm fully convinced now some countries really don't deserve democracy, because their people think that electing a President is the same as electing your favorite character in a sitcom show. They pick the most colorful, charismatic buffoon instead of someone who will actually get things fixed because they're boring.

Countries have the leaders they deserve.

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2 minutes ago, Ikarus360 said:

I'm fully convinced now some countries really don't deserve democracy, because their people think that electing a President is the same as electing your favorite character in a sitcom show. They pick the most colorful, charismatic buffoon instead of someone who will actually get things fixed because they're boring.

Countries have the leaders they deserve.

Are you trying to say: welcome to the banana club USA?

 

and well, meanwhile in Russia..

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I've gone beyond searching, hoping, praying for the miracle reprieve now.

Today I did something I've never, ever, before done over a political result. I wept. For America. For my American friends (confirmation bias admission here - all my American friends I know have been pro-Hillary, orat least strongly anti-Trump). And for the world. It's a scarier place now. Or maybe I'm just getting senile and emotional.

2016 - the year the West turned to sh!t.

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Surprisingly, I'm not as shocked as after the Brexit referendum - although this result will have an even bigger impact on the world than the Brexit. I'm rather sobered and worried about the direction our planet takes. The UK chooses to leave the EU from which it profited strongly; Colombia decides against a peace treaty which would have ended decades of death, violence and suffering; the Philippines have elected a total nutjob president; Austria is set to elect a right-wing populist president; populists throughout the world are on the rise, and such is hate, intolerance, denial of facts and the popularity of conspiracy theories.

Combine this with the madness surrounding formerly inspiring sports events like the Olympics, and then you get a very worrying picture: Things which mankind drew inspiration from in the past count no more. Safeties and certainties do exist less and less.

Even if I strongly disagree with those who voted Trump, for the Brexit, against the Colombian peace treaty etc.: I think one has to take those voices more serious than ever before in order to find a way to combat those rising populist sentiments and movements. But that will be tough, especially since no one in the "rational camp" seems to have found a recipe against those sentiments and movements so far.

I guess we have to hope (even if that leads to worrying effects for the US and the world) that as soon as they have to govern, those irrational populist movements will prove to be what they are: phonies. Trump has promised amazingly much to voters who are already disillusioned, disappointed and angry. I'm pretty sure he will step on quite a lot of feet there as soon as he he won't deliver. But it's sad enough that one has to resort to such a hope in order to (somehow) "save the world".

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And when he won't deliver, they'll get even more disillusioned, disappointed & angry. Who knows what demons they'll turn to then.

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This morning feels to me very much like the morning of June 24. It may be somewhat colder and I have slept, but the feeling of not being able to fully comprehend the enormity of what is happening in the United States is very much the same as that around Brexit. While I am deeply, deeply concerned about the potential implications of a Trump victory, it seems clear that he has tapped into exactly the same types of fear and anger that the Brexit campaign did here. Goodness knows what happens now.

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Even though I am not happy with the outcome, the people voted for authenticity. I am and many Americans are tired with both party's establishment, but only the Republicans nominated the person who followed through with that desire. We can only hope that between now and 2020 either the Democrats become less tied to corporate interests and "big tent" ideals or falls apart completely so that we can pose a truly progressive candidate.

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