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Oh this old chestnut...

Now I know I've been here forever.

If you dig deep into the Future Bids section you'll find New Zealand and 2040 gets a mention.

As a New Zealand taxpayer... I applaud you for enthusiasm but jeez it will cost a fortune even with low inflation rates. If the country has six million people by then, could be a possiblity. 

It would have to be a Nationwide event...the security bill just to huge. We would need Australian help.

At the present time the country is going through a massive building crisis...we can't build infrastructure and houses fast enough! Too many people are pouring in as this part of the world is safe. And its going to take a decade to even get in front of it.

In saying that...I would love for NZ to host the XXXVII Olympiad...It would make a great bicentennial birthday present to ourselves. A virgin Olympics as well. But what of this future? What kind of world will it be? :huh:

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2 hours ago, Alexjc said:

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Oh this old chestnut...

Now I know I've been here forever.

If you dig deep into the Future Bids section you'll find New Zealand and 2040 gets a mention.

As a New Zealand taxpayer... I applaud you for enthusiasm but jeez it will cost a fortune even with low inflation rates. If the country has six million people by then, could be a possiblity. 

It would have to be a Nationwide event...the security bill just to huge. We would need Australian help.

At the present time the country is going through a massive building crisis...we can't build infrastructure and houses fast enough! Too many people are pouring in as this part of the world is safe. And its going to take a decade to even get in front of it.

In saying that...I would love for NZ to host the XXXVII Olympiad...It would make a great bicentennial birthday present to ourselves. A virgin Olympics as well. But what of this future? What kind of world will it be? :huh:

I know but hope everything is going to be fine for all NZ athletes and our countries here if we get it for 2040 Summer Olympics..

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Make it a 1st time bid for 2028 and you can fight with either Brisbane or Melbourne!

The Olympic Park should be located at Albany. Where the existing North Harbour Stadium could be expanded to Olympic capacity of 72,000 (12,000 existing stand, 30,000 new and 2 temporary 15,000 track end stands). This will house the Olympic Village (at Massey University) as well as a new aquatics centre, using the existing Albany tennis centre for tennis and temporary arenas for some sports.

A major development would be the Ports of Auckland. A new port would be located in Muriwai, where the existing site would be radically transformed for the Olympics. A new Exhibition and Convention centre could be built there, with an attached arena. You can have 30,000sqm of space for 3 halls of 6,000-8,000, a new plenary hall for weightlifting at 4,500 and a major arena at 14,000 for Basketball finals and Gymnastics. Vector Arena would host either Volleyball or Handball (the other being in a temporary arena).

This will also be the location for the Main Media Centre and Media Village. It could also serve new cruse ship terminals for additional accommodation.

Manukau would be a 3rd major site, where the existing velodrome, Vodafone Events Centre, Whitewater centre (being used for the upcoming 2017 World Masters Games) and Totara Park Equestrian centre is.

There will be extensive use of existing indoor arenas, even if they are slightly below capacity. Namely, Vodafone Events Centre, Trusts Arena and North Shore Events Centre.

The major legacy transport projects would be conversion of the Northern Busway to rail services and a rail link to the Airport.

Forget a Winter Olympics, it's the Summer Games you excel at and should go for. Perhaps another Commonwealth Games might be helpful, but if you wanted an Olympics, Summer is the way to go.

 

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11 hours ago, Lord David said:

Make it a 1st time bid for 2028 and you can fight with either Brisbane or Melbourne!

The Olympic Park should be located at Albany. Where the existing North Harbour Stadium could be expanded to Olympic capacity of 72,000 (12,000 existing stand, 30,000 new and 2 temporary 15,000 track end stands). This will house the Olympic Village (at Massey University) as well as a new aquatics centre, using the existing Albany tennis centre for tennis and temporary arenas for some sports.

A major development would be the Ports of Auckland. A new port would be located in Muriwai, where the existing site would be radically transformed for the Olympics. A new Exhibition and Convention centre could be built there, with an attached arena. You can have 30,000sqm of space for 3 halls of 6,000-8,000, a new plenary hall for weightlifting at 4,500 and a major arena at 14,000 for Basketball finals and Gymnastics. Vector Arena would host either Volleyball or Handball (the other being in a temporary arena).

This will also be the location for the Main Media Centre and Media Village. It could also serve new cruse ship terminals for additional accommodation.

Manukau would be a 3rd major site, where the existing velodrome, Vodafone Events Centre, Whitewater centre (being used for the upcoming 2017 World Masters Games) and Totara Park Equestrian centre is.

There will be extensive use of existing indoor arenas, even if they are slightly below capacity. Namely, Vodafone Events Centre, Trusts Arena and North Shore Events Centre.

The major legacy transport projects would be conversion of the Northern Busway to rail services and a rail link to the Airport.

Forget a Winter Olympics, it's the Summer Games you excel at and should go for. Perhaps another Commonwealth Games might be helpful, but if you wanted an Olympics, Summer is the way to go.

 

Yes..sure is..Auckland has already been going for 2040 for Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games..just saying..

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9 hours ago, Amanda Kisah Tauti said:

Yes..sure is..Auckland has already been going for 2040 for Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games..just saying..

No formal planning has ever been enacted by Auckland Council or its predecessors. There have been informal groups discussions including well monied business faces. 

As suggested, if NZ were to go for it, (there is no chance of Auckland going alone) the full Summer edition only. And all NZ would be involved. 

In saying that, the next very large multi sport event in NZ are the 2017 Masters Games. Sports NZ are using it as a litmus test to see how the country copes, along with the Lions Tour, with mass movement of people. 

A Commonwealth Games has more chance of happening that the big one...and that's unlikely for now.

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3 hours ago, Alexjc said:

No formal planning has ever been enacted by Auckland Council or its predecessors. There have been informal groups discussions including well monied business faces. 

As suggested, if NZ were to go for it, (there is no chance of Auckland going alone) the full Summer edition only. And all NZ would be involved. 

In saying that, the next very large multi sport event in NZ are the 2017 Masters Games. Sports NZ are using it as a litmus test to see how the country copes, along with the Lions Tour, with mass movement of people. 

A Commonwealth Games has more chance of happening that the big one...and that's unlikely for now.

A Commonwealth Games is more likely considering that development on the Port area is going to happen soon. You can use it as a real test for the big one.

That port area is bound to go, eventually, which gives it prime location for Olympic related development.

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21 hours ago, Lord David said:

A Commonwealth Games is more likely considering that development on the Port area is going to happen soon. You can use it as a real test for the big one.

That port area is bound to go, eventually, which gives it prime location for Olympic related development.

Oh dear...if you really knew the mess this idea of a perfect waterfront for Auckland is.

The ultimate political football! And it's Council/Mayoral election time.

EVERYBODY wants this to happen! Rest assured developers, both private and central government, are champing at the bit to go for it.

Problem is the Ports of Auckland is owned by Auckland Council (along with the Airport)... And is a big revenue stream for the city. Losing this to Whangarei or moving it around to Kawakawa Bay would cost billions in anyone's money.

Then comes what to put where and how to move people in and out...yes the new underground railway now finally boring its way under the CBD will help...But a new tunnel harbour crossing is also needed...

It's a mess and even if it all gets sorted in the 20s, it will still need tweaking and it will be Rugby World Cup time again.

 

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How about if Auckland or New Zealand goes a completely new direction and look into a possible Universiade?  Albeit Auckland sorts out the stadium situation and completes it's major infrastructure projects. I think this would be a good opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. This event could be use as a litmus test if New Zealand can really pull off an Olympic Games (Much like the 2017 World Masters Game were) and also to promote University sports in New Zealand. A fact to ponder is that the Summer Universiade hasn't been to the Southern Hemisphere since Brazil hosted it in 1963. We rank 36 on the all-time Summer Universiade medal table with 15 Gold medals and 47 medals in total. It's a shame that the Universiades gets little to no coverage in New Zealand otherwise we could be sending larger delegations to these games compared to the 50 or so athletes that were sent to the 2019 games.

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On 11/17/2019 at 6:03 PM, Vill said:

How about if Auckland or New Zealand goes a completely new direction and look into a possible Universiade?  Albeit Auckland sorts out the stadium situation and completes it's major infrastructure projects. I think this would be a good opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. This event could be use as a litmus test if New Zealand can really pull off an Olympic Games (Much like the 2017 World Masters Game were) and also to promote University sports in New Zealand. A fact to ponder is that the Summer Universiade hasn't been to the Southern Hemisphere since Brazil hosted it in 1963. We rank 36 on the all-time Summer Universiade medal table with 15 Gold medals and 47 medals in total. It's a shame that the Universiades gets little to no coverage in New Zealand otherwise we could be sending larger delegations to these games compared to the 50 or so athletes that were sent to the 2019 games.

From what I've heard is the Universiades are just one big "hot young bodies having sex orgies" event. Even the Olympics are chaste in comparison.  

NZ needs to host Sports events with meaning...Which is what it does. 

 

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Hypothetical thoughts...

Brisbane 2032 smash and grab has really thrown some ideas out there for 2040 hosting...It was predicted that an Australian city would be the successful bidder for '40 and Brisbane was in the mix as most likely Australian candidate.

All changed now. This could see a potential study taken into hosting Summer in NZ, even though it would be eight years since Brisbane hosted.

The IOC isn't spoilt for choices anymore. Bidding now needs a 10 year lead in time and before that at least six in distance planning and rounds of negotiations.

I remember Sydney 2000 and the long battle to bid for them that began way back in 1989 when Melbourne's '96 bid was falling behind Atlanta and Athens. It went down to the wire with Beijing and horrific events in 1989 turned 2000 to Sydney.

Yet Brisbane 2032 were handed the games as there was no one else suitable to host...Times have changed.

The New Zealand Govt could literally walk up to the IOC and put forward a future expression of interest plan to host 2040 in a couple of years time...and be successful.

Auckland would be the focal city but by 2040 the economic power triangle of Auckland - Hamilton - Tauranga would easily have the population to cope with venues. 

The only issue would be a challenge from the UK or Europe...Especially if 2036 becomes a battle ground and an Asian city wins. 

 

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Brisbane were handed the 2032 games at a time when interest in several cities and regions around the globe began to soar. They had great timing and great political support (both in Australia and within the IOC). The latter one sealed the deal.

As charming as the thought of a New Zealand Olympics would be, I just do not see an appetite for NZ so shortly after Brisbane. And, honestly, I do not see NZ as much of an attractive option, even if the Brisbane games were not a thing.

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1 hour ago, Alexjc said:

Yet Brisbane 2032 were handed the games as there was no one else suitable to host...Times have changed.

I think it only seems that way because they were awarded so early. 

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38 minutes ago, TorchbearerSydney said:

NZ has barely shown interest in the Comm Games (they could have 2026 tomorrow if they wanted it)...cant imagine they would even consider taking on the Summer Olympics....and when would they host it, September maybe??

Unlike the Olympics with everyone participating...No real economic value in a CWGs and apart from Aus, Sth Africa, Canada and England (as a separate entity), NZ doesn't give a toss about competing with the rest - outside of Sevens. Also the sports we rate highly in are not there. Rowing/Kayak/Canoe, Yachting, Equestrian as examples, along with the real superpower sports nations.

Hosting the Olympics would be March/April or September/October. Yes it buggers up the Northern Hemisphere's calendar 

As for 2026...If we didn't have such a socialist left leaning hates sport Govt, yes NZ would probably be hosting.

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Yeah, Jacinda Marx-Engels singlehandedly turned NZ into a sports hating hell.

Seriously, you completely ignore the real reasons why Brisbane got 2032, and any NZ Olympics is wishful thinking as long as the size or the IOC calendar requirements stay as they are. The IOC will always find at least one - probably really totalitarian - country that would step in before they resort to Auckland.

 

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5 hours ago, Alexjc said:

Hypothetical thoughts...

Brisbane 2032 smash and grab has really thrown some ideas out there for 2040 hosting...It was predicted that an Australian city would be the successful bidder for '40 and Brisbane was in the mix as most likely Australian candidate.

All changed now. This could see a potential study taken into hosting Summer in NZ, even though it would be eight years since Brisbane hosted.

The IOC isn't spoilt for choices anymore. Bidding now needs a 10 year lead in time and before that at least six in distance planning and rounds of negotiations.

I remember Sydney 2000 and the long battle to bid for them that began way back in 1989 when Melbourne's '96 bid was falling behind Atlanta and Athens. It went down to the wire with Beijing and horrific events in 1989 turned 2000 to Sydney.

Yet Brisbane 2032 were handed the games as there was no one else suitable to host...Times have changed.

The New Zealand Govt could literally walk up to the IOC and put forward a future expression of interest plan to host 2040 in a couple of years time...and be successful.

Auckland would be the focal city but by 2040 the economic power triangle of Auckland - Hamilton - Tauranga would easily have the population to cope with venues. 

The only issue would be a challenge from the UK or Europe...Especially if 2036 becomes a battle ground and an Asian city wins. 

 

The upper north island yes has the population but it does not have the public transport or infrastructure.

The wellington to Auckland train has been scrapped for 6 months of the year and there are no signs of the light rail that has been talked about for decades.

The only way to get around nz is to fly, despite its contribution to climate change.

A youth olympics maybe.

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