LinkParkFn Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 There are people getting sick and dying from this bastard virus and all y'all care about is ceremonies....unbelievable., yet not suprising for this site. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiruba98 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 4 minutes ago, LinkParkFn said: There are people getting sick and dying from this bastard virus and all y'all care about is ceremonies....unbelievable., yet not suprising for this site. Well, what did you expect? The Games are happening, it's too late to change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD96 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Olympian2005 said: To compare the Atlanta Games to Tokyo and to even have them in the same article as Berlin 1936 is a huge insult to myself and the people of Atlanta and Georgia. Atlanta has more positives than negatives and was a more successful games than Athens, Beijing, Rio and now Tokyo. They are still the games that have sold the most tickets of all time I wished that I had edited the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD96 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 53 minutes ago, LinkParkFn said: There are people getting sick and dying from this bastard virus and all y'all care about is ceremonies....unbelievable., yet not suprising for this site. Look up Euro 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiruba98 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, WD96 said: Look up Euro 2020. why does LinkParkFn sound like a Karen/Ken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 So ticket holders are out of luck. But they will still have the press, the officials, the referees, the judges, the FOP volunteers, to run the Games? Or will the athletes also man the TV cameras now?? And I thought I was going to be under-paid as a ticket counter? What if they cancel the whole thing at the last minute?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1109917/tokyo-2020-no-fans It's official. No spectators will be permitted at the Tokyo Olympics. The state of emergency will be extended through the Olympics. All those shiny new venues have now gone to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 7 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said: So ticket holders are out of luck. But they will still have the press, the officials, the referees, the judges, the FOP volunteers, to run the Games? Or will the athletes also man the TV cameras now?? And I thought I was going to be under-paid as a ticket counter? What if they cancel the whole thing at the last minute?? Baron you just beat me to the posting punch on this one. My guess is there will be bare minimums on support personnel like judges and medical staff along with the media. The IOC will spin this as a one time out od their control wvent but when the financial losses become public, this whole thing is goinf to have ripple effects for future bidders and not in a positive way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiruba98 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, stryker said: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1109917/tokyo-2020-no-fans It's official. No spectators will be permitted at the Tokyo Olympics. The state of emergency will be extended through the Olympics. All those shiny new venues have now gone to waste. Why do I get the feeling the IOC will call it a day and cancel the Games? Honestly, they should've cancelled it instead of delaying it, but they'll regret ever giving Japan the Games now it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 15 minutes ago, stryker said: The IOC will spin this as a one time out od their control wvent but when the financial losses become public, this whole thing is goinf to have ripple effects for future bidders and not in a positive way. That's why they have locked in the next THREE Summer host cities in place. The IOC isn't really a "dumb," clueless entity it appears to be on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Mex Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said: That's why they have locked in the next THREE Summer host cities in place. The IOC isn't really a "dumb," clueless entity it appears to be on the surface. Maybe they aren't a dumb organization, but they are an organization full of stubborn people without fresh ideas. I.O.C. did really shoot themselves on the foot by making tokyo govenment comply with their ridiculous requirements in the middle of a pandemic. At this point only dictatorships craving for massive international propaganda media, or wealthy countries whit no problem on covering this kind of expenses (which by the way are getting less interested in the games everyday) will have any interest on organizing this event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiruba98 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 36 minutes ago, Chris_Mex said: Maybe they aren't a dumb organization, but they are an organization full of stubborn people without fresh ideas. I.O.C. did really shoot themselves on the foot by making tokyo govenment comply with their ridiculous requirements in the middle of a pandemic. At this point only dictatorships craving for massive international propaganda media, or wealthy countries whit no problem on covering this kind of expenses (which by the way are getting less interested in the games everyday) will have any interest on organizing this event. I feel bad for Bach having to try and sort this mess. I wouldn't blame him if he resigns suddenly after the Games due to the mess that was Tokyo 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hightowerio86 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 You can also blame the Japanese Government at fault because they're the one bleeped up and slowed the rollout of the vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 4 hours ago, LinkParkFn said: There are people getting sick and dying from this bastard virus and all y'all care about is ceremonies....unbelievable., yet not suprising for this site. They're not getting sick because people there's an Olympics. If attending sporting events was so dangerous, perhaps they shouldn't have crowds at NPB games. Yet they are. Don't see you bemoaning that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Shiruba98 said: Why do I get the feeling the IOC will call it a day and cancel the Games? Honestly, they should've cancelled it instead of delaying it, but they'll regret ever giving Japan the Games now it seems. They won't. Zero chance that'll happen and it's ludicrous to think for a split second they would even consider it. The IOC is in this for the TV and sponsorship money. They still get paid. It's Japan holding the bag right now and once the games are over, all sympathy in this situation will go to them. And we know the IOC well enough to be pretty certain that if there's any negativity pointed at the Olympics, they'll brush it off and point the finger at Japan. But only AFTER they have delivered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 31 minutes ago, Shiruba98 said: I feel bad for Bach having to try and sort this mess. I wouldn't blame him if he resigns suddenly after the Games due to the mess that was Tokyo 2020. Don't feel that bad for Bach. He's the head of a corrupt organization that he told the world he would help reform, but that hasn't really happened. Yes, this is all largely out of his control, but it shines a light on the idea that the onus for an Olympics shouldn't be entirely on the host city/country. And they'll likely pay for that down the road if they have trouble attracting future hosts (which is probably why they're about to give 2032 to Brisbane without a fight) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Unfortunately I think Quaker is right, and a fight will begin to shift blame between Japan and the IOC. If I were the PM or Emperor of Japan, there's no way I would agree to attend the ceremonies and open the games, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Shiruba98 said: Why do I get the feeling the IOC will call it a day and cancel the Games? Honestly, they should've cancelled it instead of delaying it, but they'll regret ever giving Japan the Games now it seems. For the world as a whole, having a massive event which keeps people in their homes watching TV for a fortnight is probably a good thing. For the Organising Committee, and for all the firms which have been gearing up to sell merchandise, overpriced food etc. at venues, the ban on live audiences is a staggeringly bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, Nacre said: Unfortunately I think Quaker is right, and a fight will begin to shift blame between Japan and the IOC. If I were the PM or Emperor of Japan, there's no way I would agree to attend the ceremonies and open the games, for example. I'm pretty sure that's a contractual obligation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 no fans, it was always coming to this. And the virus situation in Japan is continuing to get worse and worse instead of better and better. frankly, a no fans olympics was probably the best case scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD96 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 24 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said: Don't feel that bad for Bach. He's the head of a corrupt organization that he told the world he would help reform, but that hasn't really happened. Based on your comment, the IOC really needs to reform just like what FIFA did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD96 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, iceman530 said: no fans, it was always coming to this. And the virus situation in Japan is continuing to get worse and worse instead of better and better. frankly, a no fans olympics was probably the best case scenario Better safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman530 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 6 hours ago, Shiruba98 said: Since I can't edit posts, which is dumb. I was gonna say, if Sapporo drops out, it'll be up to either Vancouver or the triple bid from Barcelona and the French-Andorran Pyrenees to fight for the right to host. People will legitimately physically be hurt if Japan continues with the 2030 winter olympics bid. I am sure of it. Even the normally refrained Japanese will be full-on MILITANT if any such effort is made. I think we can safely cross off Sapporo or any olympic bid from japan for the next fifty years. To think otherwise has no gauge on the pulse of the country whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansfromdenmark Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 I am the only one who thinks that Tokyo could get a new olympics soon to compensate for this one, and still use there venues. 2032 to Tokyo if not Brisbane allready was so far. But I actually think it would have been a good idea to do that. But it seems like i am the only one who thinks like that. I cant see anyone can blame Japan for the pandemic. So I think they should be given a new chance for the public and to make a great games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD96 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 23 minutes ago, iceman530 said: People will legitimately physically be hurt if Japan continues with the 2030 winter olympics bid. I am sure of it. Even the normally refrained Japanese will be full-on MILITANT if any such effort is made. I think we can safely cross off Sapporo or any olympic bid from japan for the next fifty years. To think otherwise has no gauge on the pulse of the country whatsoever. Is there is any cases that acutally happened in Japan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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