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Polling is now closed. And I've just now, for the first time, got a banner ad on the forum homepage telling me to vote in. It would be somewhat difficult :lol:

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Can't think of a more depressing way to start the day. 99% of my UK friends voted Remain, I feel so sorry for them.

And angry that so many people fell for distortion of facts or empty promises. All the Brussels funding now going to the NHS etc? Well, good luck with that one.

Awful, sad, incredible.

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Can Northern Ireland and Scotland join the EU without leaving the UK? If not both of them now have more reason to leave the UK.

They can't. Another Scottish referendum will happen sooner than later. NI is more complicated, I guess, the old conflict lines could break up again.

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there has already been mentions of referendum in Northern Ireland regarding reunification with the Republic....Scotland will no doubt vote again in the next few years and well wales they should just have a referendum to join with England...

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Everything points out Brexit will win at this point.

Even if i'm not a big fan of the idea, congratulations to the supporters.

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there has already been mentions of referendum in Northern Ireland regarding reunification with the Republic....Scotland will no doubt vote again in the next few years and well wales they should just have a referendum to join with England...

Not entirely sure why they're even split from Ireland to begin with. Can someone summarize that mess in 5 lines of text or less? If not don't bother lol

But yea reunifying with Ireland makes the most sense for them.

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I think the UK would be better off remaining in the union. But it is a choice between two awful options, and there are some advantages to breaking with the Euro zone.

It will be interesting to see how punitive Brussels is when negotiating trade and visa laws. Do they try and salvage something positive from this, or make an example of Britain by trying to make it as damaging as possible to leave the EU?

Not entirely sure why they're even split from Ireland to begin with. Can someone summarize that mess in 5 lines of text or less? If not don't bother lol

Catholic vs protestant religious conflict.

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I think the UK would be better off remaining in the union. But it is a choice between two awful options, and there are some advantages to breaking with the Euro zone.

It will be interesting to see how punitive Brussels is when negotiating trade and visa laws. Do they try and salvage something positive from this, or make an example of Britain by trying to make it as damaging as possible to leave the EU?

If Brussels were smart and petty I would choose the latter. Anything that further weakens the british pound and pushes Scotland and Northern Ireland to leave the UK makes England and Wales look all that more humiliating!

Catholic vs protestant religious conflict.

Oh of course, religion. The scum of all this planet that does more harm than good.

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The BBC has called the result: The UK will leave the European Union

No - it doesn't that mean that at all. It was a non-binding voluntary referendum.

Obviously the people have spoken - but not by a huge majority.

If anything it is more up in the air now - will Cameron ignore the will of the people?

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EU-UK divorce will be so painful as possible, the EU doesn't want that any country try to get out having the best of two worlds, in is in and out is out.

And this is an opportunity for EU to improve important issues as immigration, economic politics and more.

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No - it doesn't that mean that at all. It was a non-binding voluntary referendum.

Obviously the people have spoken - but not by a huge majority.

If anything it is more up in the air now - will Cameron ignore the will of the people?

He won't, but he should

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Good morning from East Anglia, one of the most Eurosceptic regions of what is now, officially, an anti-EU country. This is an historic, seismic moment not just for our country, but for Europe and the wider world. Although I have watched it unfold while waiting for the count on my patch, I still cannot believe that it has happened.

The implications of what my fellow citizens who chose to mark a different box to the one I chose to are likely to be far-reaching and are probably nowhere clear as I write this. Personally, I voted to Remain, not because of any great faith in the European Union, but because I believed the Leave side had failed to pass the test I outlined in an earlier post of clearly explaining how and why the change they seek would benefit our country.

So why have we voted Out? There will doubtless be many reasons cited in the time to come, but one crucial point that mustn't be overlooked is that of the extent to which anti-EU feeling has been allowed to fester by successive British governments. Instead of engaging with the issue, they hoped it would go away. David Cameron had the bravery to take it on directly and he will carry the can of defeat. But those who went before him into Downing Street must shoulder the blame too.

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The stupidity of this vote is beyond comprehension. This referendum is all that is wrong with 'democracy' in that it can sometimes just be tyranny of the majority.

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