Xu Wen-Ting 5 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Not bad for Beijing, but not outstanding.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 269 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Both sides are driving home the point that the games can help young people have the opportunities to become top athletes, but I think Almaty drove it home better with Denis Ten as an example. Denis' story becoming an athlete is just incredible. Descendent of Korean parents, he trained in the ice skating rink in the shopping mall. I mean there is no athlete who could have spoken for Almaty better than him, and none hold a candle to him for the Beijing bid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Mata 272 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 And now let's listen to Prince Att-Whore II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 269 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Only one person with a question? does that reflect good or bad on Beijing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phandrosis 171 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 It's a good question, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 16 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Meanwhile in Jakarta, just km from KL, no one seems to know what's going on there. Wait, I do. I thought Almaty's presentation was good and really highlight others' weakness. Beijing is actually not that bad, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 269 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 It's a good question, though. It is a great question, and it stunned the first Chinese guy lol he couldn't answer it. But still just one question??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xu Wen-Ting 5 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Only one person with a question? does that reflect good or bad on Beijing? Same question... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phandrosis 171 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 They pass the sustainability question to the Beijing mayor, but the Zhangjiakou mayor is present, so I would like to hear from him about mountain venues... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woohooitsme83 297 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 *Begins answering question* *blanks* *puts question on mayor* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 269 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Fully utilized, just like the venues from the 2008 Olympics were fully utilized Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rio2016man 10 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 “Of the 12 venues in Beijing, 11 are legacy venues from 2008 Olympics.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woohooitsme83 297 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Quite vague... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 269 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Quite vague... VERY! It didn't really say anything. What did Almaty answer with? I missed that one if someone would please summarize what they said for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phandrosis 171 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Evaluation Commission presentation in 2 hours, vote in 3 hours 15 minutes, Announcement in 4 hours 45 minutes. VERY! It didn't really say anything. What did Almaty answer with? I missed that one if someone would please summarize what they said for me. Prince Albert asked about how Almaty said that only 2 venues needed to be built, but that the presentation mentioned others under construction. The Almaty 2022 President I think responded by saying that of the 4 non-existing venues for Almaty 2022, two of them are being built for the Universiade in 2017, and are at 60-70% completion. The other two are games dependent and are proposed as of now. He was very straight forwards and actually answered the question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexasTiger 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Only one person with a question? does that reflect good or bad on Beijing? It's almost always just one question and it's almost always an environmental question from Prince Albert. His question seemed to be tougher on Beijing than Almaty in this case though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Political Stability? Social Harmony? Maybe they are still using emotions, unlike Almaty's facts... You say that as if their competition were beacons of such points. In *comparison*, yes, China has political stability & social harmony. Let's remember, Norway dropped out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rio2016man 10 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Prince Albert, Prince of IOC Sessions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LatinXTC 269 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 So for those who watched both presentations, do you think either of them won over some votes, and if so, which presentation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rio2016man 10 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 If the 2022 Winter Olympic race was solely about today's presentations, there is no doubt Almaty would win hands down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jawnbc 61 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Well when he's not knocking up the random commoner, he has a lot of time on his hands. Prince Albert, Prince of IOC Sessions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 When the race for 2018 was going on, hardly anyone gave Annecy any chance whatsoever. Then on election day, many people here were just WOWED by their final presentation that they then were saying that they could indeed probably pull it off & sweep the rug right under both Munich & PyeongChang. Needless to say, Annecy just wound up with a mere seven votes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jawnbc 61 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Beijing: entitled Almaty: aspirant Beijing: we speak Chinese Almaty: we speak English, sort of. But we make an effort Beijing: Our grande fromage is too busy to come, but he sends you the following passionless message. Almaty: Here is our nominal head of government. Nominal rather than actual, mind you. Beijing: Basketball player because...why? Almaty: current medallist, plus youth medallist. I can't see how Beijing could win this. I really can't. In fact, if it were Almaty versus any of the Europeans except Oslo, I could see Almaty still in with a chance after their presentation. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TorchbearerSydney 231 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 How long before the vote and result.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karenina 9 Report post Posted July 31, 2015 Here's the key problem with Beijing's presentation today (at least for me, and probably for a lot of others around here)... Jawnbc called the Chinese Premier's message "passionless" and that is spot on, not just for the premier's message but for the entire presentation. Contrast that to fourteen years ago when Beijing was bidding for the 2008 SOG, where their drive and determination was palpable. This was uninspiring and lifeless in comparison. Maybe I'm just too caught up in hoping that Almaty wins. I like different. I like new. I think that Central Asia is a fascinating place and would love to visit there, even if it's just through my television set for two weeks in February 2022. China, especially Beijing, is really "been there, done that" proposition. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
