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I promise some guys like u here are prejudice. I really want to know what your so-called TRACK? Now I could tell u the truth is the track u mentioned, sorry. U should accept and learn what the track really is. Plz talk to the truth...ok...don't be selfish and do respect endeavor.

Speaking of tracks... How about my question about the luge track Beijing 2022 wants to build, although your country has no luge tradition whatsoever - and how does that fit into Agenda 2020 (just to name one of several examples)?

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I told myself I wouldn't give a sh!t who won. But I realised pretty quickly after I read the announcement that while I would have accepted Almaty, I was totally disgusted by the Beijing choice. I hone

Yeah it's not a surprise. Just very sad that the IOC is rewarding a nation that lied about their 2008 legacies, poison the environment, abuse and persecute innocent people, have venues from 2008 wasti

Beijing: entitled Almaty: aspirant Beijing: we speak Chinese Almaty: we speak English, sort of. But we make an effort Beijing: Our grande fromage is too busy to come, but he sends you the followin

I hope Almaty tries again in the future. Their bid had a lot to offer and a good amount of the IOC saw this as well. I can already see the headlines about Beijing. Noooo....

Now, the problem is perhaps Almaty won't find another weak year easily to overcome some key obstacles. There could a new "Sofia/Ostersund" in that aspect.

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Really? None of the last three races were difficult to call.

Well..

2018 > I thought Munich will win. I have no idea about the whole bidding process at that time, I just read the bidding city names from news and thought that Munich is the most well-known so they will simply win.

2020 > I know Tokyo has a good bid.. But I predicted that there will be some surprise and Tokyo won't win.

Still need a lot of learning about these bids.

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FFS. I'm so pissed. Thank goodness that I'm on medication, otherwise my bedroom would be a disaster. This has got to be the worst decision that the IOC has ever made. It went against its best interests and ruled in favor of money snow as opposed to the real, reliable thing. Communists. We might as well have chosen other beacons of freedom like Sochi and Salt Lake City, and hell, while we're at it, let's give the next Winter Youth Olympics to Pyongyang! How about Tehran? They won't let women in the stadiums even with their chadors and burqas and niqabs because they are dirty whores who corrupt men! They'd make fabulous hosts! Oh, and let's add Saudi Arabia to the mix! Women can't drive, religious minorities are outlawed, and people get executed if they use Twitter! But that doesn't matter. We can build a fabulous set of stadia with all the oil money! And what about Sudan? That country's run by a dictator that South Africa couldn't arrest even as he set foot in the country. Let's give Khartoum the 2040 Summer Olympics! Hell, let's limit the Olympics to the Communist Chinese, thw Putinist Russians, and Team NBC Universal Comcast Xfinity, I mean the Americans. At the Olympics, no one gives a **** about Australia or Canada or Brazil or South Africa or South Korea or even tiny-ass Saint Vincent and the Grenadines!

(sighs) Sorry for the rant. It's just after 3:30 in the morning here in California and my worst Olympic nightmares have just been realized.

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Speaking of tracks... How about my question about the luge track Beijing 2022 wants to build, although your country has no luge tradition whatsoever - and how does that fit into Agenda 2020 (just to name one of several examples)?

There are about 3 big points in bid book fit to Agenda 2020. I really don't want to be tiresome type machine, u could find out the bid book and read those. If the truth was as your saying, the IOC members were all blind...Maybe they were all blind in real, hohoho.

Bye some guys here, enjoy your selfish life in hundred years ago...

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Well from now on let's hope it never gets this bad again. 2024 is already lining up well, and 2026 will definitely be a nice change from Asia. Also all the bids will be going through Agenda 2020 fully, so there won't be as much of an argument about whether the bid city actually fits it or not...

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Well from now on let's hope it never gets this bad again. 2024 is already lining up well, and 2026 will definitely be a nice change from Asia. Also all the bids will be going through Agenda 2020 fully, so there won't be as much of an argument about whether the bid city actually fits it or not...

Let's hope so, and this 2022 came as an anomaly like 1996 Atlanta.

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So the IOC clearly decided against its own Agenda 2020, for a city (or rather two) which will have to spend a loooooot more than currently calculated, in an artificial surrounding with artificial snow. I'm really gutted. Money and influence have won yet again. Now they'll get even less bids for future Olympic Games. Well done, IOC! Not.

The IOC is the one that got themselves into this mess anyway. They only scrambled for "reforms" when European after European city kept pulling out of 2022 'til they were left with none. So IDK why some people are saying that they voted against their own agenda 2020. This was not a legitimate race whatsoever to try & determine that. It's gonna take a couple of more cycles, with ACTUAL viable candidates, to do that.

It's not like Almaty was some "savior" of a bid anyway. It's still had pollution, it's still really not a true winter tradition either, it's still had to build some key venues, not to mention more hotels (& roads) that they won't use or need post Games. In a smallish, remote, obsure country runned by one strong-arm with a questionable economy & still with human rights issues of their own as well. I've said it before & I'll say it again, if Almaty's bid was anywhere else besides Kazahkstan, it'd be a no-brainer. But the big problem here was, that it IS in Kazahkstan.

So Can Almaty Win In The Second Round?

Lmfao

Beijing no shock

Right :rolleyes:

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2018 > I thought Munich will win. I have no idea about the whole bidding process at that time, I just read the bidding city names from news and thought that Munich is the most well-known so they will simply win.

2020 > I know Tokyo has a good bid.. But I predicted that there will be some surprise and Tokyo won't win.

Still need a lot of learning about these bids.

Sounds to me that you just need to read the tealeaves better.

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So the only victor of the night is that fucking Chinese Nationalist.

Well here's what I say to you; your country, if it keeps going the way it is going, will eventually end up like post WW2 Japan. And damn, I can't wait for the day when Beijing is nothing but a **** city and America rules China. Until that glorious day comes I hope you enjoy your fake snow and oppressive government. See...we can all be nationalistic and prejudice if we want! VIVA AMERICA! **** CHINA!

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Speaking of tracks... How about my question about the luge track Beijing 2022 wants to build, although your country has no luge tradition whatsoever - and how does that fit into Agenda 2020 (just to name one of several examples)?

Well then we should start this tradition. This is the answer.

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So the only victor of the night is that fucking Chinese Nationalist.

Well here's what I say to you; your country, if it keeps going the way it is going, will eventually end up like post WW2 Japan. And damn, I can't wait for the day when Beijing is nothing but a **** city and America rules China. Until that glorious day comes I hope you enjoy your fake snow and oppressive government. See...we can all be nationalistic and prejudice if we want! VIVA AMERICA! **** CHINA!

Thank you and wish that the Beijing 2022 will not be that terribly bad as Atlanta 1996 in USA.

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There are about 3 big points in bid book fit to Agenda 2020. I really don't want to be tiresome type machine, u could find out the bid book and read those. If the truth was as your saying, the IOC members were all blind...Maybe they were all blind in real, hohoho.

Bye some guys here, enjoy your selfish life in hundred years ago...

I'm asking legitimate questions well in line with Agenda 2020, and you call me and others who ask those questions selfish? Sad to see that even seven years after the Beijing Games, issue-reöated discussions with Chinese members of this board are impossible.

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Well then we should start this tradition. This is the answer.

The baseball and softball venues of Beijing 2008 didn't start a tradition for those sports in China either (and yes, it was the same in Greece after the 2004 Games). Maybe one should be a bit realistic and admit (also to oneself) that some sports can't be forced unto a nation and that there will always be sports for which no tradition can be created. And for doing "Let's start a tradition" experiments, building and maintaining a luge track is a bit too expensive (also for the environment).

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The baseball and softball venues of Beijing 2008 didn't start a tradition for those sports in China either (and yes, it was the same in Greece after the 2004 Games). Maybe one should be a bit realistic and admit (also to oneself) that some sports can't be forced unto a nation and that there will always be sports for which no tradition can be created. And for doing "Let's start a tradition" experiments, building and maintaining a luge track is a bit too expensive (also for the environment).

If a sport cannot be promoted globally, then should we consider to cut it off from the Olympic?

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time to move on. who shall we expect for 2026? i heared Sion maybe interested, Denver perhaps?

I wouldn't count on two cities who were already kicked out of their respective bid races by their citizens. Switzerland seems to be very tough ground for an Olympic bid these days (maybe apart from a bid for the considerably smaller Youth Olympics ;)).

Honestly, I expect that now that Beijing has won, it will be even tougher to find decent (or even any) bids for the succeeding Winter Games.

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If a sport cannot be promoted globally, then should we consider to cut it off from the Olympic?

Then the IOC would have to scrap almost all sports from the Olympic schedule. There are always sports which are not (or only scarcely) practised in all the 200+ countries forming the IOC. However, as long as they are sports which are practised in a considerable number of countries around the globe (and luge, bobsleigh and skeleton are such sports, with a strong tradition in large parts of Europe and North America), they are legitimate sports in the Olympic schedule.

Yeah, bcuz Almaty would've made them come out in droves. :-/

Well, at least Almaty would have been more of an commitment to Agenda 2020 than Beijing is.

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