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POLL: Should USOC still bid for 2024?

What should USOC do?  

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  1. 1. Should the USOC

    • still bid (with LA presumably)?
    • NOT bid, sit this one out? and
    • just prepare for Winter 2026?


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Well the equation is quite simple, isn't it ?

They either get into the 2024 fight. Spend a lot of money and time with possibly very little success OR they sit out. Let Rome win and have a 90% chance of securing 2028.

IOC will have overdose on Asia, Europe won't be eligible. Only Africa or Toronto could be a decent threat but then it will be almost three decades without games for the IOC's main partner. There is no reason to think a good US bid won't be as good as a Canadian one.

Honestly, why spend 50 millions when you have a 20% chance of sucess when you can have 90 ?

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Apparently the concensus is Paris #1, Rome #2 for Olympic bids, with Hamburg at #3 most likely. North America doesn't stand a chance unfortunately.


Or at least, not much of a chance.

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Apparently the concensus is Paris #1, Rome #2 for Olympic bids, with Hamburg at #3 most likely. North America doesn't stand a chance unfortunately.

Or at least, not much of a chance.

Quite a change of tune from your unwavering Toronto flag waving last week.

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^Idk how legitimate that is, since they were doing what you're describing just last night.

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Quite a change of tune from your unwavering Toronto flag waving last week.

lol @ Rome. Rome will fail, Toronto will be the better bid.

Against Paris? Yes

Against Hamburg? Quite possibly

Against Los Angeles & Toronto? Maybe

Against Budapest & Baku-koo? Not a chance

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I really think that Toronto will go out #2 or #3. The vote for a European bid will be spread out in the first and possibly 2nd round.

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If San Francisco Is Not An Option We Could Bid With Vancouver. They Have A Stadium And Other Venues.

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I'm addicted to these forums. I love the discussions. Thank You all for that.

Now I still think most of you are underestimating Los Angeles. All the arguments that were working for Paris in major was now has competition because you can use the same arguments for LA. Paris has a hitch to it and that is the fact that London was 2012. North America hasn't had a games since Atlanta so to say continental rotation doesn't play a factor is not necessarily true. Europe is going through a lil financial crisis themselves so financially LA might actually be a more stable choice than Paris anyway. All I am saying is Paris might win but it is not going to be the grand coronation that most of you think it will be. Maybe against Boston it would have been but with Toronto and LA in the mix. I don't force that happening.

Toronto I think missed it's opportunity with the 2020 cycle, there was no real competition there. I feel like they could have breezed through the process. Having said that LA and Toronto run the risk of splitting the vote.

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^nah - that's virtually all flawed. Paris last hosted way back in 1924. Los Angeles just as recent as 1984. That's practically last year in Olympic terms. London 2012 will have as much effect on Paris 2024 as Athens 2004 did to London 2012, which was not at all.

In this case, continental rotation favors Europe, actually. After the mass European exodus from the 2022 winter race, & after three unprecedented consecutive Asian Olympics, & the IOC never going more than two Summer Olympics away from Europe, the IOC will be itching to return to their home base to drum support back up for their sports, money-draining extravanganza.

Financially speaking, I don't see California in a better position than France to host the Games, so that point is a wash really. And then its Paris, for fricks sake! There's no comparison whatsoever here. None.

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Did you have a bad experience in Paris or something, since you're always quite adamant to stick the fly in the ointment when it comes to it. And/or is it because when Durban is discussed on these boards, many people here (although I'm certainly not one of them) down play it's chances simply because it's not South Africa's premier city.

I prefer Rome myself. Seems more majestic & romantic to me. But Paris is still the second most visited city in the world by international tourists, right behind London. So not too shabby I say, for a 'terribly, over-hyped city'.

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The thing is that if the US bids for 2026 and wins, which will most likely happen that means that the US probably won't host a SOG for at least another 20 years. I know to international users I sound like a whining bitch saying that 20 years is such a long time but if the USOC wants to host a SOG soon they can't bid for 2026. The next time its north Americas time to host it will be Toronto over USA.

To me it's just better to bid for 2024 because if Paris ends up dropping out (I doubt they will I'm just saying in this case) the games would most likely be awarded to a North American city and if the USOC doesn't submit a bid it would go to Toronto. Then 2026 would be in Europes favor and then 2028 will be to Australia or Africa.

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^^^ I am not sure Toronto would have walked it in for 2020 - 2 Summer Games in a row in the Americas, and only 10 years after Vancouver.

Of course an interesting point is that the group you bid against may not make it to the finish line, or get a fatal blow on the way to the finish line (Istanbul and the riots, Spain and the economy etc...). I imagine a few European countries regret not bidding (or staying in the bidding) for 2022, as it would be the easiest race they would have ever contested (looking at Sweden, Switzerland for example).

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Maybe European economy isn't growning but France is like Japan. Still a steady economy with key experience to get the SOG. Also, beside preferences, Paris is still one of the global cities (With London, NYC and Tokyo).

And people tend to forget the dinamics of the IOC voting is more Eurocentric, so having London 2012 is a nill obstacle.

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lol it's so hilarious when people think that hosting a winter olympic games affects the chances of a city in the same country from getting a Summer Olympic games.


Maybe European economy isn't growning but France is like Japan. Still a steady economy with key experience to get the SOG. Also, beside preferences, Paris is still one of the global cities (With London, NYC and Tokyo).

And people tend to forget the dinamics of the IOC voting is more Eurocentric, so having London 2012 is a nill obstacle.

Hmm I don't know I think Japan's economy is miles better than France's. I'd say Germany is more on the level of Japan.

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lol it's so hilarious when people think that hosting a winter olympic games affects the chances of a city in the same country from getting a Summer Olympic games.

Hmm I don't know I think Japan's economy is miles better than France's. I'd say Germany is more on the level of Japan.

Well, of course Germany is still the largest economy of Europe, but still checking the database of the IMF and UN, France is still the second/third European economy, the second pillar of the Eurozone and still one of the biggest global inversors

And don't forget Japan had a long recession after the 90s. Crisis with a high public debt.

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