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On 10/17/2016 at 2:27 PM, Ansem said:

Toronto will be studying a 2028 bid before making any decisions. At this time, it seems that only Los Angeles losing 2024 would bring forward a 2028 Toronto summer bid at this point. The 2015 Pam-Am games actually performed beyond everyone's expectations in this city and would position the city as a strong contender if they were to bid.

A Toronto bid is unlikely at this point. There is no political will at all.

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http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1045111/ioc-set-to-delay-launching-bidding-process-for-2026-winter-olympics-and-paralympics-until-after-pyeongchang-2018

Now this is interesting. The IOC is delaying the launching of the 2026 WOGs bid until after Pyeongchang concludes. If this is the case, that leaves just a year before the decision on a host city is made the following year. It's a head scratcher to be sure. My guess is this is part of the IOC's plan to make the bidding process cheaper or (and this is a stretch) does the IOC already have a host city in mind (Calgary because they are anticipating referendums killing bids in Switzerland and Austria)

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It does seem to cut the bidding window, but only by six months, not by an entire year. And from the looks of it, it seems all the IOC is doing is just shuffling things around, cuz they then will extend the "invitation phase" instead at the same time. So it's not like they're not gonna be doing anything between Sept 2017 & PyeongChang 2018. The IOC is still gonna be consulting, talking & "advising" with cities who would otherwise be interested in bidding for the 2026 Winter Olympics. So I wouldn't read much more into it than what it is. 

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Glasgow2014 showed how a stadium can be converted into an athletics stadium with the running track on a raised platform. An athletics legacy could be the full conversion of the warm up track into a 10,000 seat Field & Track venue. So conceivably an American city with a large oval type college stadium could have the basis for a central part of a games expanding the number of potential cities beyond LA.

President Trump may be a greater obstacle than providing venues for any US bid in the next 4-8 years

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A pity Lillehammer does not bid.

Most of the venues are in place and the fast train connection from Oslo would help alleviate accommodation issues.

Kristins Hall (3,197 seats) could be used for Curling, whilst Hakons Hall and the Gjovik Olympic Ice Cavern meet the seating requirements for the Ice Hockey as does Vikingskipet for Speed Skating. An expansion of the Hamar Olympic Hall (even if temporary) would conclude the arena requirements.

As Opening and closing temporaries in purpose built venues are all the rage, one could be built on the Stampesletta, and you've already got the biathalon and cross country stadia, the hills, the bobsleigh run and Kvitfjell plus Hatfjell.

As vast crowds (over 100,000 attended the cross country relay) made it in 1994, improved infrastructure in the following 22years would automatically suggest improved accessibility even if accommodation wasn't locally available.

Of course, the political fall out of Oslo 2022 would need to be overcome but if Bach can suggest Innsbruck should bid for 2026, Lillehammer is possibly already better equiped.

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Nacre said:

Lillehammer is too small for a Winter Olympics in 2026. And that is the reason the winter games are in trouble.

That isn't the problem - the problem is the IOC are not prepared to hit reset in the Games and allow them to come back to a manageable level.

Apart from accommodation issues, Lillehammer is a perfect winter host.  They are also most likely the IOC's back up if any disaster befalls PC/Beijing.

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3 hours ago, thatsnotmypuppy said:

That isn't the problem - the problem is the IOC are not prepared to hit reset in the Games and allow them to come back to a manageable level.

Apart from accommodation issues, Lillehammer is a perfect winter host.  They are also most likely the IOC's back up if any disaster befalls PC/Beijing.

I don't even think that's the problem.  There are cities out there that can handle the size of the games, even if that list of cities doesn't include a mountain village we all so fondly remember from 22 years ago.  Oslo was set to bid.. right up until the IOC put the 7,000 pages of technical requirements in front of them.  At which point, Norway balked.  As well they should have.

The problem isn't the Olympics.  The problem is the IOC.  Yes, it would help matters to stop expanding the games and adding sports/disciplines.  But it would help even more if they eased up a bit on the burden they're putting on these host cities.  They know it, but they're hardly willing to do anything about it.

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34 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

I don't even think that's the problem.  There are cities out there that can handle the size of the games, even if that list of cities doesn't include a mountain village we all so fondly remember from 22 years ago.  Oslo was set to bid.. right up until the IOC put the 7,000 pages of technical requirements in front of them.  At which point, Norway balked.  As well they should have.

The problem isn't the Olympics.  The problem is the IOC.  Yes, it would help matters to stop expanding the games and adding sports/disciplines.  But it would help even more if they eased up a bit on the burden they're putting on these host cities.  They know it, but they're hardly willing to do anything about it.

Much of Oslo's bid was based in Lillehammer/Hamar etc.

I'm starting to think the IOC knows the Winter Games need more help (thus the suspicious request to Toronto to not bid for 2024 etc)...  I could see a time where the IOC chip in considerably more to sure up the Games.

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8 hours ago, Quaker2001 said:

I don't even think that's the problem.  There are cities out there that can handle the size of the games, even if that list of cities doesn't include a mountain village we all so fondly remember from 22 years ago.  Oslo was set to bid.. right up until the IOC put the 7,000 pages of technical requirements in front of them.  At which point, Norway balked.  As well they should have.

The problem isn't the Olympics.  The problem is the IOC.  Yes, it would help matters to stop expanding the games and adding sports/disciplines.  But it would help even more if they eased up a bit on the burden they're putting on these host cities.  They know it, but they're hardly willing to do anything about it.

Until 2014, no new sport or discipline was added to the sports program where a new venue was needed (slopestyle). So the main cause of concern is the amount of athletes involved, which has almost doubled from 1994. 

-That increases costs for the village, transportation, accreditation etc. 

I know this will get slack, but why not introduce a system where athletes compete one week and leave, with the other sports athletes arriving the next week. This happens at the Canada Games and helps too keep costs down. 

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