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That's so typical of Japan's No-Apology or Not Owning up to their Atrocities of World War 2. Such a proud, arrogant nation.

Wow... is that u try to pointing your finger to yourself ? an arrogant person ? how could u say something like that just because u don't like their logo ? Arrogant people...

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https://tokyo2020.jp/en/emblem/

I like it. Being a regular visitor to Tokyo and knowing it's skyline and the colours of the cityscape it just works. It is industrial, perhaps even with a touch of steampunk. I think as westerners

You guys better quit this crap now before me or one of the other mods puts an end to this.

i'm hope the belgian designer could report and beat that tokyo logo at the court and force them to change the logo! so they can make the logo more epic than ever!!!

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The Tokyo Logo already has a trademark on the design at hand, as shown in very small print in the logo itself. Therefore, the Belgian designer can't do anything to lawfully remove the logo due to infringement. The best they can do is whine.

If you look at the past work of the Tokyo 2020 emblem designer, you can see that this style is common with him. The style itself is not exclusive to a Belgian or a Japanese or a Spaniard.

Besides, look at the logo. It's a rectangle with some triangles and a circle. There is no way that this has not been done before and there is no way it'll not be done again.

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Wow... is that u try to pointing your finger to yourself ? an arrogant person ? how could u say something like that just because u don't like their logo ? Arrogant people...

What a dumb cluck you are. Stop twisting my words. How stupid can you be? I wasn't even born during WW2. So I say just shut up because you know nothing and don't even understand the basic sequences of English. Irrelevant comment.

The Tokyo Logo already has a trademark on the design at hand, as shown in very small print in the logo itself. Therefore, the Belgian designer can't do anything to lawfully remove the logo due to infringement. The best they can do is whine.

If you look at the past work of the Tokyo 2020 emblem designer, you can see that this style is common with him. The style itself is not exclusive to a Belgian or a Japanese or a Spaniard.

Besides, look at the logo. It's a rectangle with some triangles and a circle. There is no way that this has not been done before and there is no way it'll not be done again.

So what if he/they put the little © or TM mark. That doesn't make it wholly legal. Belgian designer can still go to court except I don't know what court he can take his case to -- and afford to pay for it. The pliagrism suits vs. LOOC were from firms and individuals based in the UK, so it was easy to litigate and get LOOC's attention. The best the Belgian designer can do is sue the Belgian Olympic Committee and I guess the IOC (as the rep of the JOOC) and is Europe-based, so at least he can get his case in the European courts. But as it is with TOCOG's reply defending their logo, it's going to be difficult for him to file a suit in Japan.

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I'm confused now if a pure japanese member can't like the logo than i'm even more confused how you could like it especially the tokyo part of the logo and i'm never see how it connected to tokyo so do you dare to explain it to me?

All Japanese don't like sushi. All Japanese will not like the logo. Your thinking, therefore, is stereotypical. A black Miss Japan will represent Japan at the Miss Universe Contest. I am sure she is not accepted by many Japanese. But that doe not mean she isn't beautiful. In the same way, just because some may have an issue with this emblem doesn't mean it isn't an exquisite way to reinvent the wheel or to reshape minds.

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All Japanese don't like sushi. All Japanese will not like the logo. Your thinking, therefore, is stereotypical. A black Miss Japan will represent Japan at the Miss Universe Contest. I am sure she is not accepted by many Japanese. But that doe not mean she isn't beautiful. In the same way, just because some may have an issue with this emblem doesn't mean it isn't an exquisite way to reinvent the wheel or to reshape minds.

Ok Thanks for that logical response however unfortunately you are not answering my question so i'm will rephrase it for you.....

What is the connection between that logo and the description T for Tokyo??? I can't found it so i'm hope you will help me found it... Thanks..

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I think in the coming months this will mostly mull over. The Belgian designer will contact the IOC/TOCOG to stop using the logo, but they'll basically say no. He can go to Belgian courts, but the fact of the matter is that it's just a coincidence. Rio had this problem with the Colorado company, but we didn't and don't hear much about it anymore.

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And the other Spanish design firm that was dragged in by the Belgian designer's supporters stated that they believe it was a coincidence for the same reasons I stated before.

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Tokyo Olympics logo designer strikes back at plagiarism claims

Kyodo

BRUSSELS – The man behind the logo for the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games has struck back at claims he plagiarized the design, saying Friday he knew nothing about a Belgian theater logo that has drawn attention for its similarities.

“I know nothing about the overseas piece of work that is being reported by the media,” Kenjiro Sano said in comments released by the Tokyo 2020 Organizing Committee.

“I never referred to it when I was creating (the Olympic logo),” added Sano, who will reportedly speak further on the matter at a later date.

Olivier Debie, the designer of the Belgian theater logo, confirmed he and the theater have “decided on an action to ask for the withdrawal or the change of the (Olympics) logo.”

He said the exact nature of this “action” has not been decided, but that his lawyer will take steps as early as next week.

Facing a potential public relations blow, Toshiro Muto, director general of the Tokyo 2020 Organizing Committee, said Thursday: “We made an announcement (of the emblem) after researching trademarks in and out of Japan. We believe it doesn’t pose any problems.”

Muto spoke to reporters in Kuala Lumpur, where the International Olympic Committee is holding a meeting.

Debie said the theater logo is not registered as a trademark, but it predates the Olympics emblem that was revealed in Tokyo on July 24. His design was “made official in 2013.”

“It’s not difficult to find it on the Internet,” he added.

He noted that the envisaged action is a decision jointly made with the theater’s general director. The theater “is constantly engaged in exchanges with the whole world. I think they don’t want to have something resembling their logo,” he said.

For his part, “I prefer that my creation remain unique,” he added.

Besides Debie’s work, the Tokyo Olympics logo sparked attention on the Internet for its similarity to a design conceived by Spain’s Hey Studio for soliciting donations for victims of the major earthquake and tsunami that struck the Tohoku region in 2011.

The Barcelona studio has so far not taken issue with the Olympic logo, saying Thursday it would be proud if it inspired an emblem for a major event, but that it was probably a coincidence.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/07/31/national/belgian-logo-designer-plans-request-action-tokyo-olympics-emblem/#.VbtH6vmXqqn

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it's little things that distinguish class from crass, great from mediocre..........Tokyo is awesome that other thing sucks. IMHO

there are similarities but he's out of his league, might as well get some exposure though.

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Just now in the Tokyo 2020 report, there was a good conversation over the emblem brought up by Prince Alboort. Coates explained that the theater may have intellectual properties on a logo similar to Tokyo, but have no copyright registers on it, as confirmed by both TOCOG and the IOC. Therefore, Tokyo 2020 has every right to use the logo.

President Bach later comments that, "I'm very disappointed that the Belgian theatre is claiming the rights for the national colors of Germany being in this logo, so..."

Basically, the IOC has responded to the Belgian by saying no, they're not going to stop using the emblem since Tokyo 2020 has the legal right to continue, and since you do not hold a copyright on the certain aspects similar, there's little you can do to refute. Rightly so.

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Just now in the Tokyo 2020 report, there was a good conversation over the emblem brought up by Prince Alboort. Coates explained that the theater may have intellectual properties on a logo similar to Tokyo, but have no copyright registers on it, as confirmed by both TOCOG and the IOC. Therefore, Tokyo 2020 has every right to use the logo.

President Bach later comments that, "I'm very disappointed that the Belgian theatre is claiming the rights for the national colors of Germany being in this logo, so..."

Basically, the IOC has responded to the Belgian by saying no, they're not going to stop using the emblem since Tokyo 2020 has the legal right to continue, and since you do not hold a copyright on the certain aspects similar, there's little you can do to refute. Rightly so.

Wrong. See my reply in the Koala Lumpur thread. If the Belgian theatre had money and if their income depended on the logo, they have every legal right to it. But they don't have the money to fight a Japanese entity. But morally and ethically, Theatre de Leige came out with it first -- and of course Tokyo just added the red dot and since they have the money, have copyrighted it. Theatre de Leige is/was in no position to register their trademark because they are a non-profit organization. They make their money on their productions; not on their logo. But they still came out with it first. And shame on Japan and the IOC. F*cking thieves.

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Ok Thanks for that logical response however unfortunately you are not answering my question so i'm will rephrase it for you.....

What is the connection between that logo and the description T for Tokyo??? I can't found it so i'm hope you will help me found it... Thanks..

Look closely enough at the emblem. REALLLY study it and the "T" emerges in a way you at first don't expect, but when you do find it, it is a glorious realization. The red sun then confirms your "Aha!' moment! Only Japan can do something like this and be completely successful at it.

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Wrong. See my reply in the Koala Lumpur thread. If the Belgian theatre had money and if their income depended on the logo, they have every legal right to it. But they don't have the money to fight a Japanese entity. But morally and ethically, Theatre de Leige came out with it first -- and of course Tokyo just added the red dot and since they have the money, have copyrighted it. Theatre de Leige is/was in no position to register their trademark because they are a non-profit organization. They make their money on their productions; not on their logo. But they still came out with it first. And shame on Japan and the IOC. F*cking thieves.

So if the Belgian goes to court and says, "Well I made it first so they should stop" and that will be it? Of course not. Like you just said, the company does not have a trademark, so him going to court and yelling plagiarism has no backing. It's extremely likely that it was just a coincidence, as it could be with such a simple design. For some reason he must believe that there will be great confusion between his theater and Tokyo 2020, when there will be a lot more people associating the design with Tokyo, not a small theater in the middle of Europe, just a fact. I think the belgian designer is trying to milk out money from the IOC and TOCOG just because their logos are similar. Maybe he's the thief.

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"Debie admits his design, published in 2013, is not registered as a trademark.

But he said a formal complaint has been sent to the IOC through his lawyer because the theatre is 'constantly engaged in exchanges with the whole world' and 'doesn't want to have something resembling their logo'."

I think the Tokyo 2020 games will be a little more engaged with the entire world than the theater...


http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/olympics/33746535

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