Dakooo Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Now it's becoming a bit..... I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Now it's becoming a bit..... I dunno It will snowball. After London's opening ceremony, there were at least THREE parties who claimed that Danny Boyle stole ideas from them and that the press took note of. It's only a natural progression of things in an age when people can voice their views to anyone who will listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandrosis Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 People have said this before. The designs that are criticized for plagiarism (except, you know, the ones that actually were plagirism) were all abstract designs using basic shapes and block colors. If an artist looks out and tries to find a shape that's both feasible and unused, they probably wont find anything. So, it's almost inevitable that some designs will be similar to others. I predict that the lawsuit will either happen and Debie will probably lose just because he doesn't have the proper evidence to prove Sano is guilty, or the IOC or TOCOG will pay him off so he'll go away. In unrelated news, Drawings of athletes adorn Haneda airportDrawings of athletes will adorn the outer walls of passenger boarding bridges at Haneda Airport ahead of the Tokyo 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games.The 50 "sumi-e" ink wash images feature athletes competing in 28 Olympic events and 22 Paralympic events.This project was launched by a Japanese financial group firm which is one of the sponsors for the Games.A ceremony to unveil the drawings was held on Monday. Teenage gymnast Kenzo Shirai, and track athlete Saki Takakuwa who took part in the 2012 London Paralympic Games attended.Shirai told reporters he was amazed by the dynamic drawings. While holding the drawing of a gymnast on the rings, he said with a smile that he must work harder to excel in the rings.The drawings will be displayed on the bridges by the end of next month. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150824_28.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 People have said this before. The designs that are criticized for plagiarism (except, you know, the ones that actually were plagirism) were all abstract designs using basic shapes and block colors. If an artist looks out and tries to find a shape that's both feasible and unused, they probably wont find anything. So, it's almost inevitable that some designs will be similar to others. I predict that the lawsuit will either happen and Debie will probably lose just because he doesn't have the proper evidence to prove Sano is guilty, or the IOC or TOCOG will pay him off so he'll go away. You obviously don't think in a legal framework. But why of all images, do the basic blocks and circles combine in such similar images? His office already admitted some plagiarism with the Suntory giftbags. Where there's smoke, there's usually fire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandrosis Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't understand the legality of the situation honestly. I'm just making assumptions and predictions off things I've read. No matter which way this situation turns out, TOCOG and the IOC will continue to use the current emblem. No doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiyez Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Not to mention the design is not horrendous, far from that in fact. I'll take the real one over the clichéd themes in those fan-made logos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) No matter which way this situation turns out, TOCOG and the IOC will continue to use the current emblem. No doubt. But not cleanly. A party has filed injunction against them, so they will have to clear their innocence in order to nullify Debie's infringement claim. All of this falls under IP - Intellectual Property matters -- and the IOC, for one, is EXTREMELY vigilant of all their names, trademarks and symbols, so they, of all parties, should admit when they are wrong, own up to it and pay, if they are. They wouldn't stand for it if someone came close to their designs, why should they be exempt if the shoe is on the other foot? I mean...they're supposedly all for fairness, aren't they? Edited August 24, 2015 by baron-pierreIV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandrosis Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 This other emblem was released today. Looks similar to every other world cup logo recently #plagais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 This other emblem was released today. Looks similar to every other world cup logo recently #plagais Only problem is, FIFA mandates that the logos of their tournaments, kinda adhere to that "Jules Rimet" design of the WC trophy. So the "plagiarism" is intentional and wanted by FIFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Not the Jules Rimet, that was the old trophy up till 1970 (left). The logo is based on the newer trophy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiyez Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Only problem is, FIFA mandates that the logos of their tournaments, kinda adhere to that "Jules Rimet" design of the WC trophy. So the "plagiarism" is intentional and wanted by FIFA. Of course it's FIFA's. But what if you saw this very design from a non-FIFA afiliated football tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Not the Jules Rimet, that was the old trophy up till 1970 (left). The logo is based on the newer trophy.... Thanks for the correction, Rob. I always thought the current WC trophy was the Jules Rimet design. Love its Art Deco look vs. the rough abstract look of the current one. So that one w/ the lapis lazuli base indeed does match the base they found in their warehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiyez Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Not the Jules Rimet, that was the old trophy up till 1970 (left). The logo is based on the newer trophy.... That's a club competition, so this emblem is certainly not intended to depict the FIFA WC trophy. It's a generic trophy (or the Club World Cup trophy, for that matter). Last I heard, FIFA doesn't have exclusive rights to the concept of a trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 /\/\ Nobody really cares for those uninspiring FIFA logos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hmmmmmmmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandrosis Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hmmmmmmmmmm..... I dont see it... maybe the 3x3 proportions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I dont see it... maybe the 3x3 proportions? Don't you see like a "20-20"? Using an "N' in this case, first letter of the company name -- and in the Tokyo logo - using "T", with that red circle/square in the upper right corner? If you don't see it, then I can't explain it anymore to you. U either see it or you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I see a swastika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiyez Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Don't you see like a "20-20"? Using an "N' in this case, first letter of the company name -- and in the Tokyo logo - using "T", with that red circle/square in the upper right corner? If you don't see it, then I can't explain it anymore to you. U either see it or you don't. You need to take your meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 You need to take your meds. You need to dispense advice when you are asked, dipsh*t. Heed your own advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiyez Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I see a swastika Nah, man. It's clearly the Tokyo logo, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 /\/\ Duh! You're only like 2 weeks late in posting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 /\/\ Duh! You're only like 2 weeks late in posting that. ... "bot" was banned - posting deleted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandrosis Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 A little news... Original design of Olympic logo revealedThe organizing committee of the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games has revealed the original design of the logo for the Games created by Japanese art director Kenjiro Sano.Belgian graphic designer Olivier Debie went to court in Belgium earlier this month, saying Sano's logo is extremely similar to the theater logo that he made 2 years ago. He demands that the International Olympic Committee stop using the emblem for the Tokyo Games.The committee said on Friday that in the original design, the letter T is easier to understand and the red circle is below and to the right, not at the upper right like in the current one.After checking international trademarks, it found the original design is similar to a registered logo, so that Sano modified the original design 2 times.The secretary general of the committee, Toshiro Muto, told reporters the original design shows that the creation process makes it quite different from the Belgian theater logo.Muto said the current emblem represents the concept and vision of the Tokyo Games. He also said that the Olympic and Paralympic logos make a pair by which people can understand that the Tokyo Olympics logo is unlike the Belgian theater's logo.Muto said it is regrettable the lawsuit has been filed but he hopes the concept of the emblem could be understood. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/japan.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiyez Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Nice find! This should put any reasonable suspicion of foul play to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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