ktoles Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 They were supposed to be posted online today, but I haven't seen them anywhere yet. Has anyone seen either one yet? I'm anxious to see them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 The bid books are due at the IOC today. It is normally a day or so later they are allowed to release them to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 So these will be the last ever published bid books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 So these will be the last ever published bid books? I doubt it. I'm sure a lot of cities are going to make the printed copies to woo to IOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'm starting to think they won't be released. Almaty's website looks like it hasn't been updated in quite some time, Beijing's English website is minimal as well, and the IOC has said that they won't do it either, so if they are eventually released I think it's going to be quite some time before we do see them. Gamesbids said they would post them yesterday but they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 They will. They always do. But until the IOC gives the OK they are not allowed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 According to an article on the IOC website, they weren't going to release the candidature files themselves but that Almaty and Beijing could release them as of January 7, 2015. That clearly hasn't been done yet. Beijing may on their Chinese Language website but Almaty I highly doubt... So unless someone can get their hands on the digital file, I suspect we won't be seeing them for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p85 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 https://doc.rero.ch/ published applicant files but it was later removed for some reason. I guess will see candidature files there sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 It's tough to say. They would be the most likely to get it eventually, but I'm not sure that they'll end up there. It's going to be a long while before we see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Sigh. No it is not. For the 2020 race it was about 72 hours after the bids were delivered to the IOC that they were permitted to post them. They started posting them a few days after that. This is how it has been since the 2008 race. The IOC has to do a quick check to make sure there is nothing outlandish or innapropriate and then it is all systems go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominger Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 But I remember, that Munich 2018 put them online the night after they were delivered to the IOC. This race is so lame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Yeah, well, they're a democracy, aren't they - it's not like China or Kazakhstan have to bother about what the public thinks. I'd be amazed if either of these books are ever made public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amorincognito Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Almaty is up on their home page. http://almaty-2022.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hmm, I'm quite surprised that they actually uploaded before Beijing! Well 1/2 isn't bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Forgot to add, can anyone here translate Cantonese? I wonder if Beijing's bid book has been posted to the Cantonese part of the website? This is just speculation of course, but I don't know the language so it's possible they've been posted and maybe just missed? Of course more likely is that they just haven't uploaded them yet. We are waiting Beijing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Forgot to add, can anyone here translate Cantonese? I wonder if Beijing's bid book has been posted to the Cantonese part of the website? This is just speculation of course, but I don't know the language so it's possible they've been posted and maybe just missed? Of course more likely is that they just haven't uploaded them yet. We are waiting Beijing! Bid books are printed in English and French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Bid books are printed in English and French. I know that, I just didn't know if they posted the bid books in the Cantonese part of the website and it got missed, but as I said, that was just speculation on my part, it looks like they just haven't been posted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amorincognito Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 If I'm not mistaken, Mandarin is the government standard, and Beijing 2008 did have their bid books in Chinese as well as in English and French. You can try sticking the page through Google Translate....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My mistake if it is in Mandarin and not Cantonese! Either way here's hoping it pops up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My initial thought after going through Almaty's bid book is actually pleasantly surprised. They really put a lot of thought, detail and effort into wanting to host these games, it's certainly going to be a lot more compact than Beijing's bid I believe, I'm impressed with their effort. Of course that's not to say they aren't without their flaws. The smog problems are terrible, the country is run by a brutal dictator and LGBT people face the same discrimination that they experience in Russia, etc, but it is a solid effort, and they may get more votes than people expect. I still think its Beijing's to lose though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think a Beijing decision will be almost unanimous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I do too, but at the same time, I respect Almaty for at least making a go of it. They've put in a serious effort and show that they want it, that being said I think Beijing would have to do something catastrophic in order if it lost. I just wish they would put up their bid books soon so we can at least see what their vision is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg0296 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hi, I'm new to the forums. Almaty's bid book is on the Almaty 2022 website. I read part of Volume 1 this morning. I haven't seen Beijing's, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted January 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yes, it was mentioned earlier in this thread that Almaty had posted their bid books online. I'm quite surprised they were first. Beijing is definitely lagging in getting their bid books posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohooitsme83 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 My mistake if it is in Mandarin and not Cantonese! Either way here's hoping it pops up soon. AFAIK Canto uses traditional characters (and sounds very different in contrast to mandarin), so the site's text would probably look a little more complex than it is now (Mainland China uses simplified, southern region uses Canto, HongKong, Taiwan, and Macao uses traditional). Digging through the Chinese portion of the site, I found this under 申奥规划 (bid planning) > 申办文献 (Bid Documents) however it's only just a coming soon page (to be exact, it says something along the lines of: expect some exciting content here soon). I'll post some more info if I find something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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