JO2024 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Virginia Raggi bas been elected mayor of Rome. I suppose this is bad news for Rome's bid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 While I wouldn't Rome to withdraw, but if they do, it would only enhance Paris' case. wouldn't *want Rome to withdraw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBlakeUSA Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's impossible To Withdraw The Bid Nor Paris' Bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) It's impossible To Withdraw The Bid Nor Paris' Bid. Oh no, they can indeed withdraw it whenever they damn well want. But they'll probably wait till after they've produced, but not yet released, their bid book - just to annoy Lord David. Edited June 20, 2016 by Rolski Polski 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRob Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 This doesn't sound like someone who is willing to bow to public opinion on this issue. It's going to be very tricky (well, impossible) for Rome 2024 to win if she doesn't soften her stance: New Rome Mayor Virginia Raggi has repeated her opposition to the city's bid to host the 2024 Olympics and Paralympics, leaving it in doubt as to whether it will be able to continue without her support. The Five Star Movement politician, a 37-year-old lawyer, won the election on Sunday (June 19) with 67.2 per cent of the vote and is due to officially assume office tomorrow. Raggi has repeatedly voiced concerns about Rome 2024’s attempt at bringing the event to the city for the first time since 1960. "It's not really a priority for the people of Rome," she told Euronews tonight in her first interview as Mayor. "They seem to me to be more like construction Olympics than sporting Olympics. "The economic and historic data tells us all the cities that have hosted them have indebted themselves to the hilt." Raggi chose as an example the 1976 Olympics in Montreal, which left a $1.5 billion (£1 billion/€1.3 billion) debt and took local taxpayers 30 years to pay off. "With debt of €13 billion (£10 billion/$15 billion), Rome can't afford to take on further debt to build more cathedrals in the desert," Raggi told Euronews. "I am in favour of sport, but let's begin with city sporting facilities. "Rome has over 160 of them and they are falling to pieces, and no one ever cared to maintain or renovate them". More @ http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1038759/new-rome-mayor-claims-city-cannot-afford-to-host-olympics-in-2024-as-fears-grow-for-its-future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think the only part of her objections that make sense is the very last part of the article. Which, in turn, the Olympics would make it a perfect opportunity TO renovate them & to start preparing tomorrow's Italian athletes. Using old 'economic & historical' data like Montreal I don't believe hold too much water these days. Especially at a time back in 1976, when the Olympics didn't have many revenue sponsor partnerships like they do now & it was expected that the government take on the full responsibility. Plus, now the IOC is willing to fork over some money to help pay for some of this stuff. If the IOC EB was smart, they'd hold some private meeting with this new mayor ASAP to help dispel some of her concerns & cite how the Olympics could help mold her city within its needs rather than how they 'indebt cities to the hilt'. I also still say let the people of Rome (Italy) have the final say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Referendum please. she won with 70% sooooooooo bring on the vote. Last thing anyone need is the IOC coming to explain how beneficial it is to let them hold your city captive for several years. If you need references of the problem of games you can also see almost every host since 2004. Yay Rio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Using old 'economic & historical' data like Montreal I don't believe hold too much water these days. Especially at a time back in 1976, when the Olympics didn't have many revenue sponsor partnerships like they do now & it was expected that the government take on the full responsibility. The expenses have also grown dramatically, though, and the IOC's contribution is not even enough to pay for the construction of a new village. The Olympics are only a good idea if you want to build all of the infrastructure anyway. If Rome wants to spend a couple billion euros renovating its sporting venues and another billion or so on new housing then an Olympics makes sense. If not then they should not bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Intial 2024 Roman polls also show well over 70% in favor of the bid. Funny thing is, supposedly L.A. doesn't mind being held "captive" for several years. Like Rio & Rome, they'll also need to renovate a lot of their venues. So who's really in la la land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 The expenses have also grown dramatically, though, and the IOC's contribution is not even enough to pay for the construction of a new village. The Olympics are only a good idea if you want to build all of the infrastructure anyway. If Rome wants to spend a couple billion euros renovating its sporting venues and another billion or so on new housing then an Olympics makes sense. If not then they should not bid. Yeah, of course the expense is much more now. But the Olympics have never been a money maker. They're an investment. But without knowing all the internal politics within the Italian government & it's NOC, I think it's a bit premature to just let the new mayor pull the plug. Especially when this time the new PM is onboard, unlike last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Are you just opposed to the Olympics as a whole Paul? Or are you in favour of a permanent host city? I'm also a bit tired of everyone using Montreal as 'the' example of what happens if you host a games. First, it was 40 years ago, second, Montreal had to build absolutely everything (much more than Rome would), third, it was Quebec - no offence intended but it wasn't the most transparent part of the world. But why don't Olympic boosters push Barcelona? Yes, they would've had to make a massive investment. But I bet it's paid off many times over, 24 years on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Intial 2024 Roman polls also show well over 70% in favor of the bid. Funny thing is, supposedly L.A. doesn't mind being held "captive" for several years. Like Rio & Rome, they'll also need to renovate a lot of their venues. So who's really in la la land. If it was up to me LA would drop out now. Just makes more dollars and sense to skip it. Its embarrassing being involved with the IOC now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Are you just opposed to the Olympics as a whole Paul? Or are you in favour of a permanent host city? on. I think I'm getting over the platitudes and fake talking point (see the Tokyo logo video for a HUGE dose of that!!!!!) I do like to watch the trainwreck I.E. rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Even Olympic supporters have to agree that the games today have become something very different than they were in the 1910's-1920's. Sporting federations are largely self-serving. The officials fly first class and the athletes fly coach. They demand spectacular venues that have little connection to the actual needs of the host cities. And they criticize politicians for injecting politics into sport while simultaneously turning a blind eye to the nationalism and "panem et circenses" that fuels national Olympic programs. The question is, would a boycott of potential democratic host cities achieve anything? Probably not. Edited June 23, 2016 by Nacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 The question is, would a boycott of potential democratic host cities achieve anything? Probably not. No, because you will always have the likes of Baku and Qatar to cater to those extravagant whims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Will the Rome mayor use the central Italian earthquakes as an excuse to withdraw Rome's Olympic bid -- just like Italy did in 1908 (with the Vesuvius eruption)? Discuss!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 4 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said: Will the Rome mayor use the central Italian earthquakes as an excuse to withdraw Rome's Olympic bid -- just like Italy did in 1908 (with the Vesuvius eruption)? Discuss!! No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBlakeUSA Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I Don't Think So. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejaycat Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Is this true? Is Rome going to withdraw its bid for 2024? http://fansided.com/2016/08/28/rome-drop-2024-olympics-bid/   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 On 24/08/2016 at 1:53 PM, baron-pierreIV said: Will the Rome mayor use the central Italian earthquakes as an excuse to withdraw Rome's Olympic bid -- just like Italy did in 1908 (with the Vesuvius eruption)? Discuss!! Rome had already been awarded the 1908 Olympics when the eruption happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 52 minutes ago, ejaycat said: Is this true? Is Rome going to withdraw its bid for 2024? http://fansided.com/2016/08/28/rome-drop-2024-olympics-bid/   It would be a sensible decision really. Given that I'll this year still go to Hamburg and Rome, maybe I should also add Budapest to my destinations for the near future as an omen for their bid ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Renzi: Italy will look to 2028 if Rome Olympic bid rejected  ROME (AP) — Premier Matteo Renzi says Italy will bid with a different city for 2028 if Rome's mayor rejects the capital's candidacy for the 2024 Olympics. Renzi tells Rtl radio, "The decision is up to the city and we'll accept that, it's either yes or no." He says "I think it would be a mistake, a very sad move" if Rome drops out.  But Renzi adds that "if the city decides no, it means that for 2028 we'll bid with another city."  New Rome Mayor Virginia Raggi has voice opposition to the 2024 bid, but has not formally rejected the candidacy. A decision is expected by October when the next part of the bid dossier is due at the IOC. The other 2024 bidders are Los Angeles, Paris and Budapest, Hungary.  http://bigstory.ap.org/article/261d4ffc1bef4a9d8563c57f7d6da935/renzi-italy-will-look-2028-if-rome-olympic-bid-rejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Italy would bid again with a DIFFERENT CITY (Milan? Â Bari? Â Palermo?) should Paris get 2024? Â Â Â Uh-huh. Â Renzi's not a very bright boy. Â Edited September 2, 2016 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Well if Rome drops I think we know who Italian members will vote for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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