GBModerator Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Thomas Bach's visionary roadmap for the Olympic movement came one step closer Tuesday with the public release of 40 recommendations View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I think that the Summer Olympics and Paralympics should still be held in 1 City. It's less expensive and closer together. What needs to change is the IOC's Requirements and the amount of Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I haven't studied the proposals in detail yet but, from the reports I've read so far, it seems to be giving with one hand and taking away with the other. What is the point of making it cheaper to bid if you want to incorporate more sports. I also have doubts about the idea of holding events outside a host city, as much as I understand that provision already exists, particularly with football and sailing. To me, that can only work if the IOC is explicitly saying that it will accept and encourage regional bids and I haven't seen that. I welcome the fact that the issues are being looked at, but these ideas need work before they are implemented and doing so in a rush before the 2024 race starts seems too much of a rush to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 As long as adding sports doesn't add to the cost, I don't see why not. A sevens tournament at Twickenham in 2012 (yes, I'm still banging that drum!), could actually have created a profit for organisers. If there are unused facilities which could add something to the Games, it's worth exploring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandrosis Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Just like in the case of Tokyo. If all works out as it should, they can have baseball/softball take place in the middle of the city at the Tokyo dome or even right next to the Olympic Stadium itself (if they can use that field, anyway). Allowing a host to incorporate sports they already have sufficient and up-to-date venues for is a pretty good idea in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I haven't studied the proposals in detail yet but, from the reports I've read so far, it seems to be giving with one hand and taking away with the other. What is the point of making it cheaper to bid if you want to incorporate more sports. I also have doubts about the idea of holding events outside a host city, as much as I understand that provision already exists, particularly with football and sailing. To me, that can only work if the IOC is explicitly saying that it will accept and encourage regional bids and I haven't seen that. I welcome the fact that the issues are being looked at, but these ideas need work before they are implemented and doing so in a rush before the 2024 race starts seems too much of a rush to me. That's why they're recommendations at this point. They aren't officially enacted until the IOC accepts them. And it's hardly a rush to make these reforms considering the IOC has been working towards this for awhile now. Considering the mess the 2022 bid has become, maybe it's not such a bad thing to rush it for 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yeay!! 'People-watching' will finally be a sport for LA 2024!!! Venue - Westwood Village and Rodeo Drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some of these recommendations don't really appeal to me, nor do I think some of them will work for the better. But then again, who am I to the IOC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 At least they realized there are serious issues with the bidding process and the games in general. However, judging for what i read, they still haven't identified the exact issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 That's why they're recommendations at this point. They aren't officially enacted until the IOC accepts them. And it's hardly a rush to make these reforms considering the IOC has been working towards this for awhile now. Considering the mess the 2022 bid has become, maybe it's not such a bad thing to rush it for 2024 Working on it for a while is a long way from actually having a coherent plan that is ready to be introduced to a bidding process for me. Better to delay and get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaBadger Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 It's remarkable that the media is continually describing these proposals as "visionary" or "sweeping." In fact, they seem quite underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Oh No! #IOC #Agenda2020 recommendation 3.3: "Publication of the Candidature File to be in electronic format only" Sad news for Collectors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 At least they realized there are serious issues with the bidding process and the games in general. However, judging for what i read, they still haven't identified the exact issues. There's a ton of denial, even as they claim to support reform. There's little recognition that the games cost too much. It's still a matter of better educating people not to count a lot of the spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 When the Bidding Process first Opened for the 2022 Winter Olympics and Paralympics, everything looked Good for the IOC. They had 3 Decent Bids (Stockholm, Oslo and Krakow) and a Bid that can deliver that has delivered before (Beijing). Now they are stuck with 2, with Beijing being the Best of a bad situation. Where did it go wrong? Maybe, Cities should hold referendums before not during the Bidding Process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 When the Bidding Process first Opened for the 2022 Winter Olympics and Paralympics, everything looked Good for the IOC. They had 3 Decent Bids (Stockholm, Oslo and Krakow) and a Bid that can deliver that has delivered before (Beijing). Now they are stuck with 2, with Beijing being the Best of a bad situation. Where did it go wrong? Maybe, Cities should hold referendums before not during the Bidding Process. Well, Oslo held a referendum before bidding and got a - narrow - majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Oh No! #IOC #Agenda2020 recommendation 3.3: "Publication of the Candidature File to be in electronic format only" Sad news for Collectors... No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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