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Danny, we can't possibly compete with you at the olympics. You have 4x our population. It would be like Canada wanting to surpass the US, it just will never happen no matter how much Canada improves.

Australia have a bit more than half population of Argentina... And if population was the only reason to medal count, where is India? Indonesia? or even Nigeria in the first positions of medal table? ;)

The focus of the thread is not Argentina. My sole point is: rivalry will not push Brazil to win more medals... Maybe only in football since Argentina and Uruguay were already Olympic champions and Brazil is still fighting for its first gold medal.

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Curiously, about medal tables, our goal was always to surpass Canada and/or be the 2nd best country in Americas... Achievement done in London 2012 and Guadalajara 2011 about Canada, but Jamaicans and Cubans did not allowed Brazil to be the 2nd best in Americas...

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Australia have a bit more than half population of Argentina... And if population was the only reason to medal count, where is India? Indonesia? or even Nigeria in the first positions of medal table? ;)

Budget and infrastructure also plays a role, logically, and those countries you mention do little to none investment in sport. Nevertheless, there is a limit to your possibilities, even if you gave us the USA sport budget they would still win more medals than us because they will always have bigger internal competition than us.

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Curiously, about medal tables, our goal was always to surpass Canada and/or be the 2nd best country in Americas... Achievement done in London 2012 and Guadalajara 2011 about Canada, but Jamaicans and Cubans did not allowed Brazil to be the 2nd best in Americas...

We still had more medals than you though.

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We still had more medals than you though.

One less Olympic Champion than the us... Anyway, I'm not in the mood to start Brazil vs. Canada fight again, my point keeps the same: I think the future of Brazil in sports is promising.

Hopefully the sunny shores of Rio will be more golden for Canada.

Or not... :rolleyes:

I can't see Brazil cracking the top ten, but a 5 to 8 gold and 25ish medal performance would be a great outcome.

That's the realistic expectation... But who knows how much home can be an advantage (or exactly the opposite).

Budget and infrastructure also plays a role, logically, and those countries you mention do little to none investment in sport.

Indirect investment is still an investment... To keep schools with lots of courts, athletic paths, gymnasiums is in part an investment in sports.

Nevertheless, there is a limit to your possibilities, even if you gave us the USA sport budget they would still win more medals than us because they will always have bigger internal competition than us.

USA and China are out of discussion. Give Argentina the Australian budget and indirect investment in school-life sports and Argentina can get similar results, specially, because Argentine are passionate for sports, far more than Brazilians. Not to mention, Argentina was an Olympic power in the past (long time ago, but still), that's something Brazil only can dream about. Edited by DannyelBrazil
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USA and China are out of discussion. Give Argentina the Australian budget and indirect investment in school-life sports and Argentina can get similar results, specially, because Argentine are passionate for sports, far more than Brazilians. Not to mention, Argentina was an Olympic power in the past (long time ago, but still), that's something Brazil only can dream about.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. If the investment and infrastructure were equal, we would surpass Australia, because we have more population and more people into sports overall.

I don't recall us being an olympic power in the past, we used to win 7, 8 medals per olympic in Peron times, but that was the max we have ever got. Then we went to winning 0 or 1 for like 30 years and since the 2000s we have stabilized in 4-6. Personally, I'm expecting 6 or 7 in Rio. 1 chance in football (IF we qualify), 1 or 2 in Hockey, 1 or 2 in combat sports (Boxing, TKD, Judo), 1 or 2 in water sports (Sailing, Rowing, Canoeing) and 1 in Rugby or Tennis.

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......like the spectacular collapse at the world cup.

..home court didn't help this summer, maybe it hurt.

We still have more stars in our golden shirts than any other nation in the most popular sport of this blue marble...

Sometimes, giants can be defeated in a very bad way... But the glory of being the best of all times lasts longer and worth more... ;)

PS: It was winter at the holy soil of Brazil, check your factbook about Hemispheres and stuff.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. If the investment and infrastructure were equal, we would surpass Australia, because we have more population and more people into sports overall.

I don't recall us being an olympic power in the past, we used to win 7, 8 medals per olympic in Peron times, but that was the max we have ever got. Then we went to winning 0 or 1 for like 30 years and since the 2000s we have stabilized in 4-6. Personally, I'm expecting 6 or 7 in Rio. 1 chance in football (IF we qualify), 1 or 2 in Hockey, 1 or 2 in combat sports (Boxing, TKD, Judo), 1 or 2 in water sports (Sailing, Rowing, Canoeing) and 1 in Rugby or Tennis.

Sorry, hermano, I don't buy that "population number" stuff... Population is part of the explanation, but not even close to be the key for success.

Brazil with 200 million people is fighting with Canada (35 million people) a position behind Jamaica (2 million) and Cuba (11 milion)... None of these countries have similar populations.

There is more to take in count, like dozens of categories for solo sports like track and field, gymnastics, swimming........... A country with good swimmers can surpass huge population countries focused on team sports.

And as you know, South Americans love team sports who only give one single medal to the winner in the medal table... This is only one example that bar population sizes theory...

The rest of your post seems really real. I think Argentina will have more "home advantage" than Brazil, somehow... I saw with my own eyes the invasion of your countrymen months ago (for the good and the evil).

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Canada has 14. Brazil currently has 0. I doubt Brazil will win 15 gold medals.

lol no. Canada has 0. He said gold medals at a summer olympic home game. Canada had no gold medals in Montreal. Vancouver doesn't count. So yea, Brazil will beat you because it's impossible not to beat 0! ;)

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So long as Brazil doesn't do a Montreal / Calgary (where the host country did NOT win one gold medal), Brazil will be OK. And also as long as this nut isn't anywhere near Rio next year. :lol:

Given they just did the football equivilant of this at last year's World Cup I wouldn't be suprised. :P

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Given they just did the football equivilant of this at last year's World Cup I wouldn't be suprised. :P

But there is only one event and trophy in a WC -- so the chances aren't quite the same. You get one shot in 32 for a WC, but there are like what? 200+ chances for a gold medal in a SOG -- and in both individual and team excellence. They're sure to get at least one of the Beach Volleyball golds. (I hope.)

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