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The City of Sydney been going backwoods since Clover Moore took over as the mayor of Sydney they are fighting against an 2nd Casino too in Sydney while Brisbane and Perth are planning more Casinos with both local and state government support, The longer Clover Moore the mayor of Sydney the longer it will take up to clean the mess and restore development of the city of Sydney.

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The City of Sydney been going backwoods since Clover Moore took over as the mayor of Sydney they are fighting against an 2nd Casino too in Sydney while Brisbane and Perth are planning more Casinos with both local and state government support, The longer Clover Moore the mayor of Sydney the longer it will take up to clean the mess and restore development of the city of Sydney.

Seriously - how would a 20 year old from Perth know the slightest thing about the issues confronting the City of Sydney. Clover Moore has done a hell of a lot of good for the Sydney LGA over the past decade. I didn't realise being autistic made you the expert on bloody everything.

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Clover Moore is the Mayor of the City of Sydney.

The City of Sydney is just 1 of 38 local government areas in the Sydney Metro area.

Population of the City of Sydney is 160,000

Population of Greater Sydney is 4,700,000

Clover Moore is irrelevant.

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I am a resident and ratepayer in Sydney- Clover is fantastic. Ever wonder why she gets over 60 percent of the popular vote? Why the residents voted for her as Lord Mayor and Local State Member? She is opposed by powerful business and development lobbies with a lot of money and influence- they do not necessarily care about the interests of the city and its long term future. If you think handing over prime harbour front land to Packer, for an apartment block, with small casino attached, without tender is a good thing, you have rocks in your head.

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I am a resident and ratepayer in Sydney- Clover is fantastic. Ever wonder why she gets over 60 percent of the popular vote? Why the residents voted for her as Lord Mayor and Local State Member? She is opposed by powerful business and development lobbies with a lot of money and influence- they do not necessarily care about the interests of the city and its long term future. If you think handing over prime harbour front land to Packer, for an apartment block, with small casino attached, without tender is a good thing, you have rocks in your head.

Precisely. Morons outside the LGA (even as far away as Perth it seems) harp and moan about her... But the fact is that she is mayor of an LGA, and her ratepayers and residents are her primary stakeholders- unlike the state govt and major parties that clearly have other interests.

It just happens that her LGA includes the international face of Australia - but people forget that people live in this area from all walks of life. CoS is more than The Rocks and CQ...

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Clover Moore is the Mayor of the City of Sydney.

The City of Sydney is just 1 of 38 local government areas in the Sydney Metro area.

Population of the City of Sydney is 160,000

Population of Greater Sydney is 4,700,000

Clover Moore is irrelevant.

Irrelevant in terms of Greater Sydney, relevant in regards to her impact on improving the livabilty of the urban core which she governs. Sydneys priorities have been all sorts of ways over the past few decades so it's great they have a leader representing the residents. Aside from the fanfare the people of CoS are often forgotten as everyone claims ownership of it.

More importantly your point raises the issue of governance in Sydney. I think both Melbourne and Sydney need some seriou amalgamations like Brisbane.

"Sydney" should be everything from La Perouse to Rozelle and Bondi to Olympic Park.

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Since we're on Sydney: I'm already sure you guys have already seen this, but just in case you haven't...a very awesome documentary! Enjoy!

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How did they screw up the events in 2000?

They set the vault 5cm too low for the first few competitors of the womens all-round. Then corrected it.

Unfortunate, but hardly 'screwing up events'. And in the scheme of the 'best games ever at the time' hardly worth mentioning.

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Well, I shouldn't have used 'Screw' I should've instead said 'I hope they prepare the Gymnastics Events with caution' There was a lot of chaos at the 2000 Gymnastics Events:

-Vault being set 5cm low, many athletes were injured

-Andreea Raducan was stripped wrongly of her All Around Gold

-China was stripped of Bronze because Dong Fangxiao was underage

-Esther Moya was robbed of Bronze on Floor (Thats my opinoon XD)

Raducan took a cold pill before the All Around, the pill contained a banned substance, 'Apparently' she was stripped because the substance gives you strength, but after some research they found that instead it makes you dizzy. She was still stripped of her gold and that was given to her teammate who won silver, Simona Amanar, Maria Olaru took silver and Liu Xuan took Bronze.

The Vault was 5cm low during the All Around, Russia's Svetlana Khorkina and USA's Elise Ray, who were favourites to be on the podium, fell on both vaults, they complained, but were ignored. Australia's Allana Slater complained and they found it was 5cm low, They raised it and allowed the gymnasts that fell to redo their vaults. Some were badly injured such as China's Beam Specialist Kui Yuanyuan.

China was stripped because Dong Fangxiao listed her birthdate was listed two years earlier than it really is, that would make people think Dong was 16 (That was the age limit back then) a

but was actually 14, they found this out in 2010 and stripped China of Team Bronze and gave that to USA

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But the 3 other issues- one drug related, one age related and one 'judging' had nothing to do with Sydney or the organisation of the Games. They had nothing to do with 'preparing the gymnastics with caution' either?

They were just the usual unfortunate 'dramas' of any major competition.

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But the 3 other issues- one drug related, one age related and one 'judging' had nothing to do with Sydney or the organisation of the Games. They had nothing to do with 'preparing the gymnastics with caution' either?

They were just the usual unfortunate 'dramas' of any major competition.

Yea exactly I don't know how that can be Sydney's fault as that's not something they control.

The vault thing though was suspicious.

Damn looking at the medal table, the US had a very poor showing at those olympics for gymnastics. If it wasn't for the age discrepancy, the US would have never been awarded that bronze medal, and the US would have been completely shut out of the medals.

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Hm, I see what you mean, it wasn't Sydney's fault, also, the US Team was plagued with numerous injuries, Morgan White was meant to be on the team but was injured so Tasha Schwikert replaced her, Kristen Maloney and Elise Ray were injured because of the vault too. The US Team was weak, I'm still annoyed they didn't replace Dominique Dawes with Vanessa Atler....Also, Elise was the only one to qualify for Event Finals, it was the first Olympics since 1972 the US did not medal in. Until 2010 of course..

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They set the vault 5cm too low for the first few competitors of the womens all-round. Then corrected it.

Unfortunate, but hardly 'screwing up events'. And in the scheme of the 'best games ever at the time' hardly worth mentioning.

That would be more of a federation issue rather than Sydney 2000 organising issue?

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Yea, I was wrong about blaming Sydney, it was the Gymnastics Federation to blame, they should've checked the height of the vault and all that..

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So with Brisbane and Melbourne, and maybe even Sydney, all possibly being interested in hosting the games soon, could we see another repeat of the bids for the 1992, 1996 and 2000 Olympics? Will Australia interchange their cities again until one of them gets it?

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The nature of competition within our Federation is so great that I'd be very surprised if the other states allowed Brisbane to proceed with a second bid if 2028 fails. I'd picture Melbourne up after Brisbane, followed by either Perth or Sydney.

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The nature of competition within our Federation is so great that I'd be very surprised if the other states allowed Brisbane to proceed with a second bid if 2028 fails. I'd picture Melbourne up after Brisbane, followed by either Perth or Sydney.

Perth? lol no.

If anything they'd send Perth out first to crash and fail. Then maybe Brisbane, or even Melbourne.

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Perth? lol no.

If anything they'd send Perth out first to crash and fail. Then maybe Brisbane, or even Melbourne.

Perth is a relatively wealthy city of 2 million people - no more lol than Brisbane.

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Perth is a relatively wealthy city of 2 million people - no more lol than Brisbane.

If they're wealthy, why are they scrounging to the federal government for a GST tax break? Iron ore dropping from $160per tonne to $40. Not a good idea to hedge everything on one commodity.

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Also people say that Boston and Hamburg are relatively unknown cities worldwide, or they're not so easily recognizable. You think Perth fairs any better in worldwide name recognition? Definitely not.

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Perth is so isolated from the rest of Australia, it would be like the US hosting the summer games in the capital of Montana.

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Yes, it would be exactly like that. What would I know, it's not as if I actually live in this country or anything.

Again - if you're willing to accept Brisbane as even remotely plausible, then Perth would be in a credible position to bid in the next 20 years.

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