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Shouldn't Buenos Aires be more capable if you're going to base it off of the "Global City" Index? Buenos Aires meets the following of your criteria:

  1. Hosted PanAms? Check.
  2. Hosted IOC Session. Check.
  3. On the Top 100 list of "Global" cities? Check.
  4. In Latin America? Check.

And even so, do you see a Buenos Aires Olympics happening?

Hosted the Pan American Games like 63 years ago when it was tiny event back then, Lima Peru if they get the IOC session and congress in 2017 and does an amazing job with the Pan American Games then they are really playing it smart, Will be top rivals to the bidding rights to host the 2028 Summer Olympics and Paralympics Games. I think Lima Peru is playing it smart and it could be back in Latin America sooner then thought the Olympics Games for the 3rd time.

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What if Buenos Aires showed exceptional preparation and build up to the YOG? Would that bring it "on par" with Lima? Would hosting the IOC session and YOG also be smart? Many other factors are squished into bids. Simply "playing smart" will not necessarily push you up several tiers. Who, exactly, are the "weak" rivals you speak of? Does it include Durban?

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Hosted the Pan American Games like 63 years ago when it was tiny event back then, Lima Peru if they get the IOC session and congress in 2017 and does an amazing job with the Pan American Games then they are really playing it smart, Will be top rivals to the bidding rights to host the 2028 Summer Olympics and Paralympics Games. I think Lima Peru is playing it smart and it could be back in Latin America sooner then thought the Olympics Games for the 3rd time.

Seriously, what is wrong with You?

With Rome, Berlin, Paris, Durban and Los Angeles all showing interest in Bidding, if these all Bid, one of these will Win. The other 4 will certainly Bid for 2028. Lima has no chance against either Rome, Berlin, Paris, Durban and Los Angeles. Just because Lima MIGHT Host an IOC Session, doesn't make the City capable of Hosting a Summer Olympics. IMO, Rio De Janeiro was only chosen to Host the 2016 Summer Olympics and Paralympics because of the 'First South American Host'. Difference between Durban and Rio De Janeiro, Durban can use the 'First African Host', but they also offer much more then just that. @GCL, Kazakhstan, Peru, Anchorage and any other crazy locations for a Summer or Winter Olympics, are not going to happen, even in these desperate times.

It's nice see some "lovely" comments about Lima, but well, ignorance is all around the world. :rolleyes:

And I hope Lima wins the contest.

It's called being realistic. If Brazil is struggling to Host the Summer Olympics, what chance has Peru got? (No Offence).

Countries like Peru, Scotland, Kazakhstan and Chile only have chances of Hosting Continental Games.

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Also, Lima is Bidding to Host the 129th IOC Session. The 130th IOC Session is in 2018 in PyeongChang, South Korea.

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With Rome, Berlin, Paris, Durban and Los Angeles all showing interest in Bidding, if these all Bid, one of these will Win. The other 4 will certainly Bid for 2028.

I wouldn't necessarily say that the cities that loss in the 2024 race will bid for 2028. The 2012 race was one of the most competitive races and only 1 city (that was short listed) bid for the 2016 games.

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Rome and Paris are not likely to bid for the Olympics Games in 2024 and 2028 the governments seem to not back it and Los Angeles could very well be the city which will host the 2024 Summer Games, Durban South Africa is no way ready for the Olympics Games by 2028 time Edmonton Canada seems to be the frontrunner to host the 2022 Commonwealth Games,

The 2028 Summer bid race seems to looking like an race between Baku Azerbaijan, Lima Peru, Berlin Germany if Berlin Germany becomes more Pro Olympics Games by 2028 then they will be the city to host the Summer Games in 2028 but if they are not then Lima Peru would be the most likely city to host the 2028 Summer Games.

Germany and Russia are the powerhouse of Europe now and Berlin Germany would be the only serious stable city to host the nest Summer Games in Europe, PS I never said Lima Peru will get the 2028 Summer Games only staying they will be an serious city to host the 2028 and future Summer Games.

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Rome and Paris are not likely to bid for the Olympics Games in 2024 and 2028 the governments seem to not back it and Los Angeles could very well be the city which will host the 2024 Summer Games, Durban South Africa is no way ready for the Olympics Games by 2028 time Edmonton Canada seems to be the frontrunner to host the 2022 Commonwealth Games,

The 2028 Summer bid race seems to looking like an race between Baku Azerbaijan, Lima Peru, Berlin Germany if Berlin Germany becomes more Pro Olympics Games by 2028 then they will be the city to host the Summer Games in 2028 but if they are not then Lima Peru would be the most likely city to host the 2028 Summer Games.

Germany and Russia are the powerhouse of Europe now and Berlin Germany would be the only serious stable city to host the nest Summer Games in Europe, PS I never said Lima Peru will get the 2028 Summer Games only staying they will be an serious city to host the 2028 and future Summer Games.

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Rome and Paris are not likely to bid for the Olympics Games in 2024 and 2028 the governments seem to not back it and Los Angeles could very well be the city which will host the 2024 Summer Games, Durban South Africa is no way ready for the Olympics Games by 2028 time Edmonton Canada seems to be the frontrunner to host the 2022 Commonwealth Games,

The 2028 Summer bid race seems to looking like an race between Baku Azerbaijan, Lima Peru, Berlin Germany if Berlin Germany becomes more Pro Olympics Games by 2028 then they will be the city to host the Summer Games in 2028 but if they are not then Lima Peru would be the most likely city to host the 2028 Summer Games.

Germany and Russia are the powerhouse of Europe now and Berlin Germany would be the only serious stable city to host the nest Summer Games in Europe, PS I never said Lima Peru will get the 2028 Summer Games only staying they will be an serious city to host the 2028 and future Summer Games.

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Rome and Paris are not likely to bid for the Olympics Games in 2024 and 2028 the governments seem to not back it and Los Angeles could very well be the city which will host the 2024 Summer Games, Durban South Africa is no way ready for the Olympics Games by 2028 time Edmonton Canada seems to be the frontrunner to host the 2022 Commonwealth Games,

The 2028 Summer bid race seems to looking like an race between Baku Azerbaijan, Lima Peru, Berlin Germany if Berlin Germany becomes more Pro Olympics Games by 2028 then they will be the city to host the Summer Games in 2028 but if they are not then Lima Peru would be the most likely city to host the 2028 Summer Games.

Germany and Russia are the powerhouse of Europe now and Berlin Germany would be the only serious stable city to host the nest Summer Games in Europe, PS I never said Lima Peru will get the 2028 Summer Games only staying they will be an serious city to host the 2028 and future Summer Games.

Seriously, what is wrong with You. Durban is by far more ready then Lima, Almaty or any other crazy places for Olympics You have. Lima won't even be a contender. Even Baku has a better chance then Lima IMO. DURBAN IS THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE 2022 COMMONWEALTH GAMES (FACT). A few more facts:

- If the IOC wants to keep the tiniest bit of dignity that they have left, they wouldn't choose Lima, Almaty or Russia.

- Rome, Berlin, Paris, Durban and Los Angeles are favourites to Win if they all Bid.

- GCL, are You winding us up or are You serious about these unrealistic places.

IMO, 2024 will be Europe's. They won't have 3 Summer Olympics in a row outside Europe.

IMO, 2028 will be Africa's Time.

Fact, Kazakhstan, Peru and Russia won't Host an Olympic Games anytime soon.

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Seriously, what is wrong with You. Durban is by far more ready then Lima, Almaty or any other crazy places for Olympics You have. Lima won't even be a contender. Even Baku has a better chance then Lima IMO. DURBAN IS THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE 2022 COMMONWEALTH GAMES (FACT). A few more facts:

- If the IOC wants to keep the tiniest bit of dignity that they have left, they wouldn't choose Lima, Almaty or Russia.

- Rome, Berlin, Paris, Durban and Los Angeles are favourites to Win if they all Bid.

- GCL, are You winding us up or are You serious about these unrealistic places.

IMO, 2024 will be Europe's. They won't have 3 Summer Olympics in a row outside Europe.

IMO, 2028 will be Africa's Time.

Fact, Kazakhstan, Peru and Russia won't Host an Olympic Games anytime soon.

can't you get it???

i mean :

1. i think if lima can host the the session and the panam well lima can have enough experience for olympics

2. rather than durban the city of edmonton has more advantages to host the commonwealth games in 2022 let's say for example let me ask you how many times south africa has hosted the commonwealth games compared to canada???

3.recently only the less-democracy nations or ambitious nations interested to host the olympics all full-democratic nations will completely put their people forward to their nation's ambition...

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So Durban can't get the games because they don't have experience.

They can't get the experience because they can't get the games.

But they held the 123rd IOC session and (in effect) recieve experience on the bid process (which could, mind you, possible change)

Durban could possibly host the CWG

But they don't have the experience for that either.

Indeed, Canada is the obvious leader of the race right now

Lima will have much more experience than Durban

The race is on

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can't you get it???

i mean :

1. i think if lima can host the the session and the panam well lima can have enough experience for olympics

2. rather than durban the city of edmonton has more advantages to host the commonwealth games in 2022 let's say for example let me ask you how many times south africa has hosted the commonwealth games compared to canada???

3.recently only the less-democracy nations or ambitious nations interested to host the olympics all full-democratic nations will completely put their people forward to their nation's ambition...

Don't You get it?

I mean:

1. Hosting a MUCH SMALLER IOC Session, doesn't make You capable of Hosting the Olympics, otherwise Guatemala City could Host it, which they can't.

2. Africa hasn't Hosted yet, South America will in 2016.

3. Durban is the favourite to Host the 2022 Commonwealth Games.

4. If anything, Canada already have Hosted could work against them, as Africa hasn't Hosted the Commonwealth Games yet.

5. What's Democracy got to do with it? If the IOC was bothered about Democracy, then why has Democratic nations like here in England and also Countries like America Hosted? Why has Non-Democratic Nations like Russia Hosted?

Look at the bigger picture and accept, Lima won't Host a Summer Olympics anytime soon, neither will Kazakhstan with the Winter Olympics. It's called being realistic.

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Don't You get it?

I mean:

1. Hosting a MUCH SMALLER IOC Session, doesn't make You capable of Hosting the Olympics, otherwise Guatemala City could Host it, which they can't.

2. Africa hasn't Hosted yet, South America will in 2016.

3. Durban is the favourite to Host the 2022 Commonwealth Games.

4. If anything, Canada already have Hosted could work against them, as Africa hasn't Hosted the Commonwealth Games yet.

5. What's Democracy got to do with it? If the IOC was bothered about Democracy, then why has Democratic nations like here in England and also Countries like America Hosted? Why has Non-Democratic Nations like Russia Hosted?

Look at the bigger picture and accept, Lima won't Host a Summer Olympics anytime soon, neither will Kazakhstan with the Winter Olympics. It's called being realistic.

okay so... realisticly...

1. buenos aires get the yog 2018 after they hosting a good sessions

2. lima can adopt how rio wins the olympics after a great panam

3. what i know about south africa is them only hosting an ioc session and a fifa world cup that's all

4. the cgf would not risk themself to award the games to new horizons especially after delhi 2010

5. previously i said less-democratic nations which means nations who think themselves democratic although realisticlly are not so

6. today those who want to host the olympics is the nations who dares to fulfill their personal ambitions rather to fulfill their people some prosperity

AND LASTLY NOTE THIS : I NEVER SAID LIMA WILL HOST THE OLYMPICS BUT AT LEAST LIMA WILL BE SHORLISTED IF LIMA DO SOME BIDDING IN THE FUTURE !!!

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okay so... realisticly...

1. buenos aires get the yog 2018 after they hosting a good sessions

2. lima can adopt how rio wins the olympics after a great panam

3. what i know about south africa is them only hosting an ioc session and a fifa world cup that's all

4. the cgf would not risk themself to award the games to new horizons especially after delhi 2010

5. previously i said less-democratic nations which means nations who think themselves democratic although realisticlly are not so

6. today those who want to host the olympics is the nations who dares to fulfill their personal ambitions rather to fulfill their people some prosperity

AND LASTLY NOTE THIS : I NEVER SAID LIMA WILL HOST THE OLYMPICS BUT AT LEAST LIMA WILL BE SHORLISTED IF LIMA DO SOME BIDDING IN THE FUTURE !!!

My main point was directed to GCL, with his ridiculous ideas. Also:

1) Buenos Aires got the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics after they Hosted the IOC Session, not because they Hosted the IOC Session.

2) Lima, Peru can Bid if they want. That's there choice. Just like Doha, Almaty, Kazan, Hobart and Anchorage, but none of them will Win.

3) So Durban should be judged because of Delhi's mistakes? That's the wrong way of thinking.

4) Lima can do all the Bidding they want, they won't Host an Olympic Games anytime soon.

Also, I keep hearing this word 'Geopolitics' getting used alot. Yes that could be a factor, but at this present moment, the IOC want safe options, like London, England; Berlin, Germany; Paris, France; Rome, Italy; Durban, South Africa; Los Angeles, United States Of America; Tokyo, Japan; Toronto, Canada and Oslo, Norway.

Also, after the Build Up issues with Beijing 2008, Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016, the IOC will prefer more safer options. Yes, in the end, Beijing 2008 and Sochi 2014 were a success, but that doesn't hide the fact that there were major issues in the Build Up to these Olympics.

Also, I'm not arguing whether Lima will Bid or not, they probably will AFTER they Host the 2019 Pan and Parapan American Games, but I'm quite certain they won't Host an Olympics anytime soon.

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1) Buenos Aires got the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics after they Hosted the IOC Session, not because they Hosted the IOC Session.

Let's not get the fact in the way that BA got the YOG in July 2013, two months BEFORE it hosted the IOC session.

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Neither Lima nor Buenos Aires are in conditions to host SOG now, of course. But there's no reason to make disrespectful sarcastic comments about it.

Cheers, LDOG.

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Neither Lima nor Buenos Aires are in conditions to host SOG now, of course. But there's no reason to make disrespectful sarcastic comments about it.

Cheers, LDOG.

I haven't made any disrespectful sarcastic comments. I'm just being realistic. I never said anything bad about Lima. I just pointed out, they probably won't Host the Olympics anytime soon. This all started because of GCL's crazy theories.

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So Durban can't get the games because they don't have experience.

They can't get the experience because they can't get the games.

But they held the 123rd IOC session and (in effect) recieve experience on the bid process (which could, mind you, possible change)

Durban could possibly host the CWG

But they don't have the experience for that either.

Indeed, Canada is the obvious leader of the race right now

Lima will have much more experience than Durban

The race is on

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Well, actually Lima will have more experience than Durban. That just shows the powerful allure of Africa where the Olympics are concerned.

Any interesting comparison of data:

Major international, multi-sport hosting experience:

Durban: None.

Lima: 2019 PanAm Games.

The population of greater Durban is 3.5 million. The population of greater Lima is almost 8.5 million.

2012 GDP of South Africa: $384 billion

2012 GDP of Peru: $197 billion

South Africa total Olympic medals: 76 (23 gold)

Peru total Olympic medals: 4 (1 gold)

IMO, there's no question that Durban will host long before Lima. That said, both of these cities have a lot of work to do to position themselves to land an Olympics.

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Leave it up to dizzy GCL to turn an otherwise mundane thread, into yet another one of his silly rants.

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