runningrings Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Quite a large gathering tonight in Melbourne's Federation Square ahead of the Aids 2014 conference, a big candlelight vigil . About 100 on board were headed there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 -sounds like the BUK system is so complicated that it may have required Russian personnel to assist in the targeting, attack an destruction of the civilian 777 aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 -sounds like the BUK system is so complicated that it may have required Russian personnel to assist in the targeting, attack an destruction of the civilian 777 aircraft. Or maybe the Russians trained them in how to launch but not in how to identify targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Oh great.... Now the chatter out there in the conspiracy world is that Russian Zionists working with Mossad are involved so as to distract the world away from Israel's invasion of Gaza happening simultaneously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Lions Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I doubt the FIFA World Cup will be moved from Russia in 2018 Vladimir Putin pretty much control world sports now apart from the Commonwealth Games. Sepp Blatter and Putin seems to be great friends and looks like it going to happen if he is re-elected as the President of FIFA in next year election. It could be back in Brazil in 2018 if he is not re-elected. RIP to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I doubt the FIFA World Cup will be moved from Russia in 2018 Vladimir Putin pretty much control world sports now apart from the Commonwealth Games. Sepp Blatter and Putin seems to be great friends and looks like it going to happen if he is re-elected as the President of FIFA in next year election. It could be back in Brazil in 2018 if he is not re-elected. RIP to the victims. Random......and no, the 2018 WC is staying where it is. For now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Lions Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Only bring up what Baron Pierre IV said it's an very sad day in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Oh great.... Now the chatter out there in the conspiracy world is that Russian Zionists working with Mossad are involved so as to distract the world away from Israel's invasion of Gaza happening simultaneously.... Whatever.... In this case the simplest explanation seems by far the most likely. The fact the leader of the Donetsk seperatists bragged about taking down a plane online then deleteed the post when he realised it was a passenger jet is pretty telling as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Whatever....In this case the simplest explanation seems by far the most likely. The fact the leader of the Donetsk seperatists bragged about taking down a plane online then deleteed the post when he realised it was a passenger jet is pretty telling as well. I had a wee chuckle, if you could call it that in these tense times, somehow it all ends up Israel's fault somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Not to take this off topic, but it was barely a few hours after this happened that the ground assualt started. I don't buy into sick conspiracy theories about this being a Zionist plot, but I do think the timing of the ground offensive is opportunistic in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Not to take this off topic, but it was barely a few hours after this happened that the ground assualt started. I don't buy into sick conspiracy theories about this being a Zionist plot, but I do think the timing of the ground offensive is opportunistic in the extreme. They were going in anyway, Netanyahu would just relieved the whole world media wouldn't be entirely focused on Gaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durban Sandshark Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 One Australian woman now holds the tragic distinction of not just losing a brother and sister-in-law from the disappeared Malaysian Airlines flight 370 but now a stepdaughter and stepson coming back to Melbourne from a month-long vacation in this one http://www.newser.com/story/191137/woman-loses-family-in-both-malaysia-flights.html Where's the black box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohooitsme83 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The Ukrainians claim to have it and say they will hand it to Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 A Downing Street spokesperson made a statement on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 disaster. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-statement-on-the-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17 ....While it is too early to be categoric about the cause of the disaster, the growing weight of evidence suggests that MH17 was shot down by a surface to air missile and that this was fired from near Torez, in territory controlled by the separatists. This is backed up by claims made by separatist leaders on social media, and later removed, to have shot down an aircraft that they thought belonged to the Ukrainian military. On this basis we assess that, without compelling information to the contrary, it is increasingly likely that MH17 was shot down by a separatist missile..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohooitsme83 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 claimed to have found it* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The Ukrainians claim to have it and say they will hand it to Russia....pro Russian Ukrainians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohooitsme83 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Then that would make a lot more sense. Sorry. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p85 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The fact the leader of the Donetsk seperatists bragged about taking down a plane online then deleteed the post when he realised it was a passenger jet is pretty telling as well. He just said that the Malaysian airplane was actually a "medical transport" full of dead bodies. The carpses were found on the ground without blood stains, witnesses told that there was "huge rotten body stench" I have no words to comment that nonsense... Watching Russian news channels really can give you a picture how brain-washed most of Russian citizens are. Sadly, this kind of propaganda influences many people around the world. Looks like Brits finally opened their eyes (well, at least their media did), but seeing Brazilians, Argentinians, Italians, Spaniards (Serbians, but it is obvious) internet users backing-up Putin's version is just sad. The Ukrainians claim to have it and say they will hand it to Russia. Source? Pro-Russian separatist (they aren't Ukrainians, they are Russian-paid mercenaries) have it and said they would hand it to Russia. But Russian's MAK doesn't want it (according to Lawrov at least, he is a total liar, so who knows). And already knowing Polish experience with that institution after 2010 Polish president plane crash near Smolensk, I highly recommend not to handle anything, any shred of evidence, to MAK. The Malaysian plane crash site is probably already cleaned of any evidence anyway, valuables belonging to the casualties were stolen, and airplane parts were taken by the locals and sold in the nearest scrap purchase point. I really hope that those nearly 300 people's lives won't be forgotten and someone will do something with those pro-Russian bastards intimidating and killing people in Eastern Ukraine. Source? Pro-Russian separatist (they aren't Ukrainians, they are Russian-paid mercenaries) have it and said they would hand it to Russia. But Russian's MAK doesn't want it (according to Lawrov at least, he is a total liar, so who knows). Then that would make a lot more sense. Sorry. My mistake. Aah, ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Looting? These pro-Russians really are peasants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 That's really an insult to peasants. It's looking less and less likely, as these subhumans take the wreckage away in skips to hide the evidence, we'll ever be able see a proper investigation take place. Putin really needs to think about who he's supporting and why or Russia's going to become a pariah state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Russia would already be a pariah state if it wasn't the gas dealer to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Russia would already be a pariah state if it wasn't the gas dealer to Europe. And there in lies the rub...Russia and Gazprom know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I swear, the relationship between Europe and Russia is akin to a crack-whore and her pimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 The Pro Russian Rebels are lying sacks of crap. They say that they had nothing to do with it. So why are they not allowing foreign access to the site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 The Pro Russian Rebels are lying sacks of crap. They say that they had nothing to do with it. So why are they not allowing foreign access to the site? Because they had something to do with it. Lying sacks of **** - as well as having about the amount of brain matter as ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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