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Are there any normal french board members here?

It is just like Victor said, they walk hunched because they´re sad. That has absolutely nothing to do with racism.

We sung this "song" too at our local football club after promoting to the higher league, only with the other team names.

So where is the connection between racism and germans singing this song about other germans?

Btw. Mustafis parents are from Albania and Kloses are from Poland (short history lesson- Poland is the country that suffered most under the third reich)

What about the players from Argentinia singing about the Brazilians after they reached the final? That is absolutely the same.

It is a pity that "Nazi" still is the only argument most people have when discussing with germans.

And for our french members: Before pointing at other nations you should better solve your problems with Marine Le Pen.

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I want to clarify something: "Gaucho" isn't a demonym of any kind in Argentina (it is in southern brazil though, i.e. Ronaldinho Gaúcho), it's just a type of "cowboy" from the Pampas that pretty much

Haha, you wish! The first I heard of this was when I logged onto this thread. Nobody is going to heckle the Germans because 99% of people won't have even heard about this "story". I would say it'll

The 747 made an extra turn over the Brandenburg Gate before it landed. "Siegerflieger" by Fanhasa ("Winner's Aircraft") The World Champion leaves the plane The people are waiting (the bus is

I don't get that dance at all.

If the Germans were not acting so sugary sweet in Brazil it wouldn't be such a contrast, they obviously had a detailed and extensive plan of action around how they would present themselves in Brazil and had the locals licking it up.....that's just smart business. This dance thing sort of spoils some of those well executed strategies.

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I just heard the song "We are the Champions - No Time for Loosers" from Queen shall be banned in stadiums by FIFA and UEFA, since it is mocking the team/country, which lost...

You really are clutching at straws, aren't you?

The fact is the Mannschaft tried to put forward a squeaky clean picture of itself in Brazil.

5 minutes after landing and the real image came to the surface much to the dismay of your press who absolutely savaged the "dancers" and the rest of the fans worldwide.

So please don't be so dismissive will you. Those idiots tarnished themselves, their country and their fans.

Don't be surprised if they get heckled and whistled at for the next four years.......

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You really are clutching at straws, aren't you?

The fact is the Mannschaft tried to put forward a squeaky clean picture of itself in Brazil.

5 minutes after landing and the real image came to the surface much to the dismay of your press who absolutely savaged the "dancers" and the rest of the fans worldwide.

So please don't be so dismissive will you. Those idiots tarnished themselves, their country and their fans.

Don't be surprised if they get heckled and whistled at for the next four years.......

To the first: Yeah our press. It have been not more than 4 or 5 newspapers from the left-wing.

The main media have no problem with this.

To the second: Yeah sure. Nobody will like us from now on. :rolleyes:

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Don't be surprised if they get heckled and whistled at for the next four years.......

Haha, you wish!

The first I heard of this was when I logged onto this thread. Nobody is going to heckle the Germans because 99% of people won't have even heard about this "story". I would say it'll all blow over in a few days, but I'm not sure there's anything to blow over.

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Are there any normal french board members here?

Considering people for their citizenship instead of who they are as individuals is quite dubious. But anyway....

As you may have noticed, it's not just "French members" on GB who felt uncomfortable with this dance, lots of media have talked about it (or maybe you've been living on the Moon for the last few days).

I think what people have trying to show you is that you should be careful. And they're doing so because we think you can do better than this, we believe in the German people's capacity not to fall in inglorious attitudes.

Again, if that was the dance alone I think it would've been ok but it just adds to the rest...:

1.Andreas Köpke, member of the German staff : " France isn't a great team anymore"

Bastian Schweinsteiger : "Brazil isn't what it used to be. It is more force than beauty, and we'll beat it easily".

Once more, it doesn't matter whether "it's true". It might be, but if you don't know that you don't say that kind of stuff, then I'm sorry for you. It would be like Rafa Nadal or Nole Djokovic saying "yeah, I'm so much better than my next opponent and I'll beat him in a few minutes".

I don't have anything against Germany (or any nation), but be careful, maybe control your communication.

2.The fierce demonstrations of nationalism, screams & fists have done nothing to give you a humble image either. Don't get me wrong, joy and even euphoria are extremely normal, but this kind of expression of national pride was sometimes really strange.

3.We could even mention Neuer's violent & reprehensible charges on M.Debuchy against France, or on G.Higuain against Argentina, but maybe we should add nothing more.

And, for God's sake, you don't refer to a whole foreign population calling them "Die Gauchos" ??? Even if it was just about "sadness" or whatever.

No one in France thinks that Germans = nazis. You guys aren't responsible for what your grand-parents did, not more that I'm responsible for what MY grand-parents did (maybe they did something wrong once and I never knew). But such thoughts are easy to have when such things happen, I think you realize that.

I don't have anything against Germany , and I'm convinced Frenchy doesn't either. I'll even be having drinks with Germans in Berlin next month for the swimming euros. And it's cool that Germany won. But winning is great....Being a classy winner is better.

*have been trying to show you*

I don't get that dance at all.

If the Germans were not acting so sugary sweet in Brazil it wouldn't be such a contrast, they obviously had a detailed and extensive plan of action around how they would present themselves in Brazil and had the locals licking it up.....that's just smart business. This dance thing sort of spoils some of those well executed strategies.

Agreed.

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I want to clarify something: "Gaucho" isn't a demonym of any kind in Argentina (it is in southern brazil though, i.e. Ronaldinho Gaúcho), it's just a type of "cowboy" from the Pampas that pretty much doesn't exist anymore in the present day.

To us when someone call us "gauchos", it feels as akward as when most foreign journalists call our national team "la albiceleste" (no one in Argentina actually refers to the NT with that name, we only call it "la selección").


All this being said, this story is already disappearing even from our media. It's not really relevant tbh.

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Want some more fun with the Nationalmannschaft now back in Germany after claiming their fourth star in Rio? Well I now got some video footage for you to celebrate with. Their celebration with their fans after touching down in Berlin in their Siegelflieger Fanhansa jet all the way to Brandenberg Gate in that black Mercedes team bus and later in that black open air Mercedes-Benz bus-like truck (complete with Berlin police escort) covered live on ARD with former national player Arne Friedrich. Apologies if this geoblocked where you are (not such here in the US).

http://www.sportschau.de/fifawm2014/video/videodasdeutscheteamlandetinberlin100.html

The great celebration at Brandenberg Gate co-hosted by and showed on both ARD and ZDF:

http://www.sportschau.de/fifawm2014/video/videodiefeiervordembrandenburgertor100.html

ZDF's live coverage of their arrival in Berlin on ZDF's Volle Kanne:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/2197702#/beitrag/video/2197702/Die-Ankunft-des-Siegerfliegers

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/2197688#/beitrag/video/2197688/Schuerrle-Partynacht-war-sehr-hart

ZDF coverage of the Brandenberg Gate celebration with Thomas Hitzlsperger and others

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/2197860#/beitrag/video/2197860/Empfang-der-Weltmeister-in-voller-Laenge

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Philipp Lahm has just announced his resignation from the national team, but will continue with FC Bayern.

Quit while you're ahead I guess, though it's a surprise - he's only 30, and everyone just expected Klose to resign, but not any of the others.

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I think that Schweinsteiger would lead them into the Euro with Khedira the eventual captain. I was king of surprised by Lahm's decision but some Spanish did retire after Euro 2008 when they could have gone on.

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Schweinsteiger is the most obvious choice, he always exuded the leader qualities on the field necessary as team captain. He would be a great replacement for Lahm, especially bearing in mind his strong and determined showing in the World Cup final.

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Miroslav Klose: Germany striker retires from international football

Germany's all-time leading goalscorer Miroslav Klose has announced his retirement from international football.

The 36-year-old Lazio striker helped his country win the World Cup in the summer, becoming the record scorer in the tournament's history.

Klose, who totalled 71 goals in 137 internationals, became the third player to score at four World Cup finals.

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Klose's record 16 World Cup goals

"I am happy and proud to have contributed to this big success for German football," said Klose.

Poland-born Klose, who scored twice in the tournament in Brazil to surpass Brazilian Ronaldo's competition record of 16 goals, said the time was right to end a 13-year career with the German national team.

He is the second member of the German team to quit after the tournament following captain Philipp Lahm last month.

"Winning the title in Brazil was a childhood dream come true," added Klose in a statement released by the German Football Association.

BBC

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