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I believe we have several tips about the ceremony .
1. If all the chairs of the area behind the goal were occupied by a structure is likely that athletes will not sit in the stands.
2. If the athletes will stay in the field , it is likely that the march is done in the same style of London 2012 with the artistic part occurring before the ' Parade of Athletes ' fleeing the Sochi 2014 style .
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I believe we have several tips about the ceremony .
1. If all the chairs of the area behind the goal were occupied by a structure is likely that athletes will not sit in the stands.
2. If the athletes will stay in the field , it is likely that the march is done in the same style of London 2012 with the artistic part occurring before the ' Parade of Athletes ' fleeing the Sochi 2014 style .

From the 2005 edition of the Technical manual on Ceremonies (online at Gamesmonitor):

At the Olympic Games, the athletes enter the stadium after the artistic programme and remain in the centre of the field. In the Olympic Winter Games, the athletes march is near the beginning of the ceremony, and take seats reserved for them in the audience.

- it's basicaly due to the huge difference in number of athletes between summer and winter.

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The manual is Recommended Says que the parade of athletes lasted for maximum 2 hours.

Probably the Rio will last 2 hours and 30 minutes.
I was thinking , are 28km between Maracana and the Olympic Village . At the moment according to Google Maps this journey takes around 1 hour (no time great traffic yet).
Another logistical challenge for the ceremony , the athletes will probably leave before the 17 pm and only come back around midnight, so at best . Tiring for those who want to go to the ceremony, but have to compete on Saturday. This includes several prominent athletes of the Brazilian Olympic team
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I think forming the Olympic rings using trash found in the waters that events such as sailing and rowing will use is a perfect idea! At the very least they'll be doing some water cleaning that they completely gave up doing.

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The manual is Recommended Says que the parade of athletes lasted for maximum 2 hours.

Probably the Rio will last 2 hours and 30 minutes.
I was thinking , are 28km between Maracana and the Olympic Village . At the moment according to Google Maps this journey takes around 1 hour (no time great traffic yet).
Another logistical challenge for the ceremony , the athletes will probably leave before the 17 pm and only come back around midnight, so at best . Tiring for those who want to go to the ceremony, but have to compete on Saturday. This includes several prominent athletes of the Brazilian Olympic team

I don't think any athletes' parade has ever lasted two and a half hours- not even Beijing, which was over half an hour longer than London with about the same number of countries competing. If Rio can improve even slightly on London's tricks, 90 minutes is not impossible.

Athletes competing on the first Saturday very often don't join the parade, but certainly the journey back to the Village is going to be quite slow unless they plan something totally unexpected and innovative.

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From the 2005 edition of the Technical manual on Ceremonies (online at Gamesmonitor):

- it's basicaly due to the huge difference in number of athletes between summer and winter.

"Parade of Athletes: The parade of the athletes is the next required element of protocol and Olympic tradition. At the Olympic Games, the athletes enter the stadium after the artistic programme and remain in the centre of the field. In the Olympic Winter Games, the athletes march is near the beginning of the ceremony, and take seats reserved for them in the audience".

JMark, I think the mandatory part of the document is the one pointed out in blue. The paragraph belongs to a larger text that talks about "Key Milestones", "Relationships", "Required Elements and Protocol" and "Recommendations", The quotation I've marked in blue appears in the third category. When we go the "Recomendations", it reads:

" When planning the athlete’s march try to limit the segment to 45 minutes or less for the Olympic Winter Games, and two hours or less for the Summer Olympic Games... Other time-cutting measures may be considered with prior IOC approval."

So, do you think there would be a space for an agreement on a "time-cutting measure", such as reducing the number of athletes in the parade, for example? Or, once they have come in and the solemn oath is recited, culdn't they stay elsewhere if there is a resoned argument presented by Rio team?

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Yes.
The video confirms .
Still I hope it is something automatic and does not have the Rio two people ascending the Olympic cauldron .

How will that Rio will present the rings ?

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I think it'll be something like Atlanta where dancers form the rings. That would be a very Rio/Brazillian thing to do I believe.

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The IOC had agreed with Rio that the Maracana would undergo reforms after the World Cup , to expand the entries in the field, however, the local government gave up.


The IOC wanted something bigger to facilitate entry and exit at the ceremony.

The inputs and outputs are Maracaná smaller than London.


Limit athletes ? I do not like the idea . Also, what would be the criteria ?

Would limit the largest delegations or would put some goal to force all delegations to cut 10% or 20 % of the athletes . I think unfair to those who would be left out and think to participate.


Whatever was decided , it is already accepted by the IOC as the booklet points out that three months before the IOC must approve the ceremony.

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Whatever was decided , it is already accepted by the IOC as the booklet points out that three months before the IOC must approve the ceremony.

ROCOG/Ceremonies Carioicas got IOC approval of their ceremonies at least 2.5 years before the actual ceremony -- NOT three months before -- because it takes at least 2 years to plan and execute these very complicated ceremonies.

For example, for Athens 2004, Papaioannou appeared before the IOC Executive Board meeting in Salt Lake CIty then in February 2002. He presented his Athens opening Ceremony concept. They OK'ed it (as they normally just rubber-stamp what is presented to them for the most part), and the Athens show went on in July 2004.

Sochi's timeline was a little shorter. It was not until London 2012 (so around July 2012) that the Russians were able to present their concepts to the IOC Executive Board. Of course, they approved it -- but Sochi had only some 19 months to execute Tsypin's concepts and what the world eventually saw. Remember, it is only the Executive Board of about 18 individuals who approve or disapprove (which they have done rarely) the Ceremonies concepts -- not the entire 115 members of the IOC.

So it takes a few months for the people charged with creating Ceremonies to conceive, articulate and flesh out (with storybook illustrations) thier Ceremony themes so that they can present a clear vision to the IOC Board who are not, for the most part, show or production people who could understand production language. So the concepts and stories that a host city wants to tell in its Opening Ceremony, are for the most part, already decided at least TWO years in advance; and it takes that long to put all the pieces in place.

And especially now that the Paralympics are also getting bigger, the Ceremonies team must CREATE FOUR separate Ceremonies. So to get great results, all that would require at least, in my estimation, 2.5 years to even start and put together.

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Instead of limiting athletes, how about not allowing coaches and other non-athlete personnel to walk with the athletes? That should bring down the amount of people walking into the stadium by a few hundred or more. Also let's not forget not all 10k+ athletes that compete at the Olympics arrive at the start of the games since their events don't start until days, or perhaps a week after the OC. And there are a good number of athletes who don't walk in the parade of nations because they have competitions the very next day.

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