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I think that "water" projection will be one of dozens that will eventually be used. For Vancouver alone, it took nearly a year to work on the projections. I'm sure it was the same time -- thousands of manhours -- for Sochi, and it will be the same just to find and prepare maybe 60-70-80 projection pieces that will make the final cut.

Well, you're forgeting a important think. Vancouver and Sochi were winter games. It's hard too work with that. But neither you nor I can say that they will use "real water" or "projected water". We only know that there will be projections.

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I'm sure there will also be performers at the top of the boxes (dancers?). Also i feel very bad for the people who will be sitting behind those boxes. No wonder why the prices of those seats were cheap.

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I'm sure there will also be performers at the top of the boxes (dancers?). Also i feel very bad for the people who will be sitting behind those boxes. No wonder why the prices of those seats were cheap.

at least Maracanã has 4 big screens hahahahaha

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Well, you're forgeting a important think. Vancouver and Sochi were winter games. It's hard too work with that. But neither you nor I can say that they will use "real water" or "projected water". We only know that there will be projections.

I'll make a bet with you. They ain't going to use pools down there--not when even the budget has been cut back, and Ric Birch quit these ceremonies (yeah, yeah, he stayed on for the Para ceremonies).

And I mentioned Vancouver and Sochi because there was more of an abundance in projections in their OCs than London or Beijing used. Baku 2015 used like a small section of that inner circle for a few inches of water -- but it wasn't because Baku is known for its bodies of water.

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What the heck are all those dark vertical features inside the boxes?

Electrical wires?

Mechanical control cables?

Streaks of paint?

If there is a water flood in the field, it will be another "water ceremony" that started in Sydney, continued in Athens and repplied in Rio 2007 Pan Am OC, 2007 Shangai Special Olympics OC, Singapore 2010 OC, Kazan 2013 OC, Baku 2015 OC .....

And London 2012!

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I'll make a bet with you. They ain't going to use pools down there--not when even the budget has been cut back, and Ric Birch quit these ceremonies (yeah, yeah, he stayed on for the Para ceremonies).

And I mentioned Vancouver and Sochi because there was more of an abundance in projections in their OCs than London or Beijing used. Baku 2015 used like a small section of that inner circle for a few inches of water -- but it wasn't because Baku is known for its bodies of water.

Sitting here in my Baku hotel room looking across the Caspian Sea..I think Baku is known for its prime position on a body of water!

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What the heck are all those dark vertical features inside the boxes?

Electrical wires?

Mechanical control cables?

Streaks of paint?

And London 2012!

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This was my area in the Industrial Revolution sequence - down by the water wheel. The original idea was that during the Green and Pleasant Land sequence the water wheel would have much smaller and "cottage" like and then during the Industrial Revolution sequence it was to be replaced by the above "industrial" much bigger wheel. However due to the cut back in the time of the overall Industrial Revolution sequence they had to drop this change as there was no time/was too complicated. Also the river/creek was originally much bigger but again it had to be scaled back as rehearsals got under way (again I think this was a timing issue). The wheel was also supposed to be taken down completely at the end of the Industrial Revolution sequence and again I think timings got the better of them. Still the best moment of my life and will never forget it! So enjoy your moment in the sun Rio!

Back to Rio - as the Baron is saying - I cannot see that there will be actual water - it will be projections a la Vancouver & Soch!?

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Sitting here in my Baku hotel room looking across the Caspian Sea..I think Baku is known for its prime position on a body of water!

Well, yeah, from your hotel room. But not here from my bedroom in northern California. Besides, they featured more the "Land of Fire" theme in the 2015 OC more than the water aspect...which is already getting tired. It's no longer in the "Wow, how did they do that?" territory.

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@LuizFernandez, here's a prototype of the Rio 2016 production team's use of water; being tested at the lobby of the Salesforce bldg, in San Francisco. Watch for it on 5 Aug 2016. ;)

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Does the President of Brazil to Open, the games?


Brazil is one of the most hostile countries to authorities at sporting events. In 2007, Lula da Silva was taunted at the Maracana and did not open the Pan American, leaving the role to the president of the Brazilian Olympic Committee.

In 2013, during the Confederations Cup both as FIFA President Dilma were heavily harassed in Brasilia during the opening.

In 2014, President Dilma was harassed in São Paulo and did not open the games, suffered boos and verbal abuse during the national team debut when he appeared on the big screen. In closing was again harassed.


All this is available in YouTube videos;


Does anyone know if the IOC protocol allows or has precedent for the head of state do not open the Games?

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Los Angeles 1932 Olympics weren't opened by the president of the United States back then. Same with Lake Placid 1980. In fact the first time an actual american president opened the games was in LA'84. I think the role can also be delegated to the Vicepresident or another higher authority other than the president.

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Los Angeles 1932 Olympics weren't opened by the president of the United States back then. Same with Lake Placid 1980. In fact the first time an actual american president opened the games was in LA'84. I think the role can also be delegated to the Vicepresident or another higher authority other than the president.

Neither were Calgary and Vancouver (the rep of the Queen opened them).

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In the opening ceremony the president will be Michel Temer. There is a chance Dilma return to her office in time for CC. The final voting will hapen during the games. Can the Rio de Janeiro governor open the games? Or the president of Rio Organizing Committee like Rio 2007?

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In the opening ceremony the president will be Michel Temer. There is a chance Dilma return to her office in time for CC. The final voting will hapen during the games. Can the Rio de Janeiro governor open the games? Or the president of Rio Organizing Committee like Rio 2007?

Are good alternatives in my opinion. Luiz, I believe that the vote will not occur during the games.

It will probably be between 1 and August 3 in my opinion. If the process takes just Renan Calheiros (The Senate President) put Congress in recess mid-year, which would throw the vote after the Olympics.

Los Angeles 1932 Olympics weren't opened by the president of the United States back then. Same with Lake Placid 1980. In fact the first time an actual american president opened the games was in LA'84. I think the role can also be delegated to the Vicepresident or another higher authority other than the president.

The vice president is an option. But this is a serious problem in Brazil today.

Vice President Michel Temer is now the 'Acting President', the vice president post became vacant, the constitution stipulates that the next in line is the President of the House of Representatives, though the president of the house Eduardo Cunha (Frank Underwood rsrsrsrs') is also removed by decision of the Supreme Court, and there is a constitutional dispute about whether the paper is with the Acting President of the House, or go to Renan Calheiros, president of the Senate.
Still find it hard Renan Calheiros, wrapped in the Lava Jato scandal and with the possibility of being arrested at any time it is accepted the challenge, since it is almost certain that he would be received with hostility in the stadium.
The governor of Rio de Janeiro, Fernando Pezao, this removed from office because of cancer treatment. In addition, the state faces extremely serious financial difficulties and its popularity is not the highest.
One option would be the mayor of Rio de Janeiro or the President of the Organizing Committee.
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What are the chances they play the Hymn to the Flag in a fashion similar to Ode to Motherland in Beijing 2008? I think it could be a moving moment and also to make up for Caietano Vargas singing the anthem (which looks like most brazilians users here are not very happy with)


Also I think this is the perfect song for the entrance of the olympic flag (though they already used it at Rio 2007)

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Neither were Calgary and Vancouver (the rep of the Queen opened them).

Ditto Sydney, of course- but there's no point having Governors General if you're going to shove them aside every time somebody offers a high-profile ceremonial gig.

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What are the chances they play the Hymn to the Flag in a fashion similar to Ode to Motherland in Beijing 2008? I think it could be a moving moment and also to make up for Caietano Vargas singing the anthem (which looks like most brazilians users here are not very happy with)

Also I think this is the perfect song for the entrance of the olympic flag (though they already used it at Rio 2007)

The 'Hymn of the Flag' has a good melody! but I think the ceremony will compose something suitable for entry.
The second video, good idea.
Already on the third video is a curiosity. Most Brazilians identifies music as something related to the position of 'President of Brazil', it is also related to the program 'Voice of Brazil' a mandatory program for all Brazilian radio transmitted ace 19:00 every day, talking about made the federal government.
It would be interesting to use the presidential entrance.
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Does the President of Brazil to Open, the games?
Brazil is one of the most hostile countries to authorities at sporting events. In 2007, Lula da Silva was taunted at the Maracana and did not open the Pan American, leaving the role to the president of the Brazilian Olympic Committee.
In 2013, during the Confederations Cup both as FIFA President Dilma were heavily harassed in Brasilia during the opening.
In 2014, President Dilma was harassed in São Paulo and did not open the games, suffered boos and verbal abuse during the national team debut when he appeared on the big screen. In closing was again harassed.
All this is available in YouTube videos;
Does anyone know if the IOC protocol allows or has precedent for the head of state do not open the Games?

This makes Brazilians look like uncultured swine that have no respect for authority. Do it at any other time and place, but not during a time when Brazil is hosting a global event and where you pretty much embarrass the country and its citizens.

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Oh, about Caetano Veloso singing the national anthem? Hm .. bad idea.


I like the national anthem only in the melody version or sung by the whole audience. Singing alone is not good.


See the audience singing the national anthem at the end of the 2013 Confederations FIFA, the game is between Brazil vs. Spain in Maracana.


For the version sung by those present at the stadium, advance the video to 1:15.



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Neither were Calgary and Vancouver (the rep of the Queen opened them).

That needs to change, including the queen herself having to open the games. The leaders of those commonwealth nations should be the ones who have the privilege of opening the games, not the monarchy or a representative of the monarchy who have little to with how those countries are run.

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This makes Brazilians look like uncultured swine that have no respect for authority. Do it at any other time and place, but not during a time when Brazil is hosting a global event and where you pretty much embarrass the country and its citizens.

I agree, I think we must have respect for the president to avoid a global embarrassment.
Today Brazil is a major political rivalry climate between the left and right. Much higher than in 2013 and 2014.
On Youtube there are several videos of harassment of the president at the World Cup opening. In respect to all I will not put the link here.
In the cup final, when the president was delivering the trophy Germany ceremonial was prevented and increased the volume of the music to drown out the boos, it was still possible to hear. I do not see as possible during the speech of the President to declare open the games.
Do not forget both Rousseff and Temer has 11% approval in Brazil, according to latest research.
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