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Glastonbury Tor with a volcanic plug on top?

I guessed right? A big fruit number is the climax of the OC then, right?

I think the cauldron will be like a big Tutti-frutti hat of Carmen!!

I think they'll get the fruit thing out of the way quite early; maybe the acting head-of-state bursting out of a giant fruit salad.

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I really want to see a big number like this. It's very Olympic Opening Ceremony & very Brazilian. :)

And then all the fruits light up in the dark!!

I almost 100% sure that there won't be anything about Carmen Miranda. She is considerate here a "stupid" brazilian stereotype. First: she is not brazilian, she is portuguese. Second: she lived most of the time in the U.S.A.. I really don't think that they are preparing something with stereotypes.

A tutti-frutti hat caldron? Really? You should be keading or you must know nothing about brazilian culture.

Other point is that they just have said the OC is going to show the formation of brazilian people, not about Brazil's history at all, but the history of the people, the diversity of the people. Indians, Europeans (Portugueses, Italians, Germans), Africans, Japaneses, Lebaneses. The ceremony is about that, the people.

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I almost 100% sure that there won't be anything about Carmen Miranda. She is considerate here a "stupid" brazilian stereotype. First: she is not brazilian, she is portuguese. Second: she lived most of the time in the U.S.A.. I really don't think that they are preparing something with stereotypes.

A tutti-frutti hat caldron? Really? You should be keading or you must know nothing about brazilian culture.

Other point is that they just have said the OC is going to show the formation of brazilian people, not about Brazil's history at all, but the history of the people, the diversity of the people. Indians, Europeans (Portugueses, Italians, Germans), Africans, Japaneses, Lebaneses. The ceremony is about that, the people.

Who cares what Brazilians think? Carmen Miranda is an "icon" loved the world over!! Don't diss someone who brought Brazil to the world's attention even in the 30s and the 40s. You know NOTHING about Ceremonies. Anybody can do that "universal" mix. Been there; done that. So, what's the point of spending several billion $$ if all you're going to show is the same boring, universal mix? Don't take yourselves so seriously. Sigh. :(

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Who cares what Brazilians think?

Uh, it's THEIR ceremony, after all. You think Brazil gives two shits for what the rest of the world thinks? :P

If Tokyo cared for what the world thought they would had picked a different logo some weeks ago.

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OK, let me clarify by my sweeping statement: Who cares what Brazilians think? By that I mean, is that Brazilians here should chill when, yes, stereotypical ideas about their country and culture are proposed here. Leave it to the Ceremonies producers. They know what they are doing. Just remember the very famous example of the "plastic kangaroos on bikes" in Sydney's Handover section at the Atlanta 1996 Closing.

Australians at home skewered Ric Birch for presenting what they thought was a tacky, stereotypical presentation of their country. But the bit proved to be a hit with the live audience in Atlanta and it got favorable reviews from around the world!! That is the most obvious example of presenting something fun and WINNING reviews without having to present something so radically new, etc. And the idea of Carmen Miranda is in that realm.

Vancouver 2010 made fun of itself and Canada and all the iconic symbols of Canada - the maple leaf, hockey players, etc., etc. Worked very well!! The best ideas at the South Africa 2010 Closing were the watering hole of the "elephants" and the jazz-number with all the wild projections! Yeah, fake elephants... but it was wonderful number that reminded the viewer that that show was coming from Africa. There are many other such examples.

Don't try too hard to be different. Let there be some stereotypical concepts because that is how the world views you -- and it can be fun!! Let the producers do their work. That's why they were hired for. Generally (except for Danny Boyle), they know what they're doing.

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People usually confuse the meaning of stereotype. It's not necessary something bad or untrue, it's just a exageration. In the case of Rio's cerimonies, based on the little details that we already know, they'll tackle things that some think represent a stereotypical view from Rio, like the Carnival. For me, the way that this kind of allegories about the city will be display it that is important. If is fun, inventive and powerful, so be it.

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The ceremonies are supposed to represent Brazil and Rio. So, DOES matter what brazilians think. If doesn's thre was no reason to ask Fernando Meirelles, Daniela Thomas, Rosa Magalhães, Marcelo Rubens Paiva and others to produce the ceremonies. Do you remember the word cup opening? It didn't not represented Brazil, brazilians were not proud of that. London ceremonies for example, represented their culture, their contry and their people. The british people were proud what the showed to all the word.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I don't know nothing about ceremonies. I don't to be rude, but I'm "the brazilian" here, I know better than you what represents Brazil and its culture. And if the cermony is not about Rio, Brazil and brazilian culture I don't see reasons to put three brazilians directors to work in each ceremony. I hope you guys understand what I meant.

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People usually confuse the meaning of stereotype. It's not necessary something bad or untrue, it's just a exageration. In the case of Rio's cerimonies, based on the little details that we already know, they'll tackle things that some think represent a stereotypical view from Rio, like the Carnival. For me, the way that this kind of allegories about the city will be display it that is important. If is fun, inventive and powerful, so be it.

You made a point. But carnaval and Carmen Miranda are different things. Carmen Miranda is a stereotype that is untrue. Carnaval id carnaval, there is not other way to show that, they tried to do on the handover but looked weird. It's beatiful the way it is.

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my favella theory is getting stonger and stronger

When I first saw this picture it was what I thought. But Meirelles has said that they're not preparing anything about the favelas. Than I thought it was buldings from copacabana/ipanema beach but they look too close. If it was supposed to represent something of the city it really looks like a favela. They are justing starting, so I believe that it is just some estructure.

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I almost 100% sure that there won't be anything about Carmen Miranda. She is considerate here a "stupid" brazilian stereotype. First: she is not brazilian, she is portuguese. Second: she lived most of the time in the U.S.A..

Careful with that "she is not brazilian"- most Brazilians are descended from people who migrated from Europe, and she was among the biggest wave of immigrants from Portugal (nearly 400,000 between 1904 and 1913). Admittedly, it's slightly odd that she did not acquire a Brazilian passport when she became an adult, but the rate of migrant return to Europe from Brazil appears to be fairly high, so perhaps it was quite a common practice.

Let the producers do their work. That's why they were hired for. Generally (except for Danny Boyle), they know what they're doing.

Erm. Isn't there a bit of a difference between a producer and a director?

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Erm. Isn't there a bit of a difference between a producer and a director?

Boyle donned the caps and resps. of both, I believe even though he carried the "Director" title.

euhm - the london 2012 opening ticket was a major hint > cauldron - #justsayin'

OK. OBVIOUSLY, if one Games did it, then the next one must do it!! How predictable can one get?!? :rolleyes:

So I guess we all know by now it's going to be surrounded by plants!! That's what I said, it will be in the shape of one of Ms. Miranda's Tutti-Fruitt hats -- full of greenery!! LOL! :lol:

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Boyle donned the caps and resps. of both, I believe even though he carried the "Director" title.

London 2012 had a pretty formidable team of producers, but from Boyle's comments on the BBC DVD, it does seem that he was consciously trying to drag them out of their comfort zone. I'm hoping that Rio's use of a smaller stadium for ceremonies will make production easier.

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OK, let me clarify by my sweeping statement: Who cares what Brazilians think? By that I mean, is that Brazilians here should chill when, yes, stereotypical ideas about their country and culture are proposed here. Leave it to the Ceremonies producers. They know what they are doing. Just remember the very famous example of the "plastic kangaroos on bikes" in Sydney's Handover section at the Atlanta 1996 Closing.

Australians at home skewered Ric Birch for presenting what they thought was a tacky, stereotypical presentation of their country. But the bit proved to be a hit with the live audience in Atlanta and it got favorable reviews from around the world!! That is the most obvious example of presenting something fun and WINNING reviews without having to present something so radically new, etc. And the idea of Carmen Miranda is in that realm.

Vancouver 2010 made fun of itself and Canada and all the iconic symbols of Canada - the maple leaf, hockey players, etc., etc. Worked very well!! The best ideas at the South Africa 2010 Closing were the watering hole of the "elephants" and the jazz-number with all the wild projections! Yeah, fake elephants... but it was wonderful number that reminded the viewer that that show was coming from Africa. There are many other such examples.

Don't try too hard to be different. Let there be some stereotypical concepts because that is how the world views you -- and it can be fun!! Let the producers do their work. That's why they were hired for. Generally (except for Danny Boyle), they know what they're doing.

So in essence be bland - stereotypical & very vanilla! Lol!

The ceremonies are supposed to represent Brazil and Rio. So, DOES matter what brazilians think. If doesn's thre was no reason to ask Fernando Meirelles, Daniela Thomas, Rosa Magalhães, Marcelo Rubens Paiva and others to produce the ceremonies. Do you remember the word cup opening? It didn't not represented Brazil, brazilians were not proud of that. London ceremonies for example, represented their culture, their contry and their people. The british people were proud what the showed to all the word.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I don't know nothing about ceremonies. I don't to be rude, but I'm "the brazilian" here, I know better than you what represents Brazil and its culture. And if the cermony is not about Rio, Brazil and brazilian culture I don't see reasons to put three brazilians directors to work in each ceremony. I hope you guys understand what I meant.

The Rio ceremonies should be about your country & not something made for worldwide tv! Don't give a sh@t about what's gone before & do this for Brazil - it's your party & enjoy it!
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