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Maybe they got the numbers wrong. Or they want to try something new indeed for the Summer Games by letting the athletes be a part (or at least only a witness) of the pageantry as well. Maybe they'll use more aerial stunts then and reduce the dancing and the other stuff to the running track or maybe even include the stands (they can do some performances in the aisles)? But as I said, this might be a wrong information after all and we will see the classical Summer Games opening ceremony with most of the pageantry taking place before the parade of nations.

1.5 hours for those few protocol elements is too long by far, in any case. Unless Carlos Nuzman plans to make a veeeeery long speech! :D It happened in earlier ceremonies in the "Latin" countries that officials made endless opening speeches (Giulio Andreotti in Rome 1960, Puerto Rico's Governor Carlos Romero Barceló at the San Juan 1979 Pan American Games or Venezuela's President Luis Herrera Campins at the Caracas 1983 Pan American Games), so who knows what Nuzman has planned (although he was quite short in the 2007 Pan Ams)? ;)

And Carlos Romero Barceló already made the experience that Dilma Rousseff will probably make next year - nevertheless, he made a lengthy speech ;) See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhoX23v0jZg

And here's Campins' speech four years later, only without booing (introduced by Mario Vasquez Rana) ;)https://youtu.be/RkdeN2c4FCo?t=1h16m16s

I can vouch for this, having endured the speech from the PASO president at the Toronto 2015 opener! Those Latin Americans love to hear themselves speak!

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Who cares if performers are world famous or not? As long as they work for the show, in the moment, that's what matters most. These ceremonies are about cities showing the world the face THEY want

Omg guys, u need to sotp! It's boring how you're jugding the hole cerimony just by pictures. LETS RIO SHINE without yours negative comments. I'm loving everything, it's so colorful, so alive. They are

I watched quite a lot of the videos and pictures you guys thankfully posted here, and I must say, that I'm looking very much forward to the opening ceremony. What I have seen so far is surprisingly im

Due to rules of protocol, speeches must no be so long... In 2007 Vasquez Raña (RIP), in Rio Pan Am OC, delayed in his speech about 30 minutes... Surprisingly, 4 years later in Guadalajara OC, his speech lasted no more than 5 minutes.... In Santiago South American Games OC in 2010, Nuzman speech lasted no more than 5 minutes, too... And latin politicians tend to have very long speeches, specially when they are left-wing ones.... But nobody more than temselves and their "fans" put up with them..... Surely it will not happen in the Olympics.. timing is very expensive on TV boradcasting...

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Due to rules of protocol, speeches must no be so long... In 2007 Vasquez Raña (RIP), in Rio Pan Am OC, delayed in his speech about 30 minutes... Surprisingly, 4 years later in Guadalajara OC, his speech lasted no more than 5 minutes.... In Santiago South American Games OC in 2010, Nuzman speech lasted no more than 5 minutes, too... And latin politicians tend to have very long speeches, specially when they are left-wing ones.... But nobody more than temselves and their "fans" put up with them..... Surely it will not happen in the Olympics.. timing is very expensive on TV boradcasting...

It's not that. The Ceremonies people will control everything -- including the length of those speeches. Those are all timed and vetted by the Ceremonies and the IOC.

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Panasonic Signs Partnership to Deliver Visual Solutions for the Rio 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Ceremonies; Panasonic Becomes Official Ceremony Partner for the First Time

OSAKA, Japan--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Panasonic Corporation announced today that it has signed an agreement to become an “Official Ceremony Partner” with the Rio 2016 Olympic Organizing Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games (Rio 2016) and provide turnkey visual operations for the Rio 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games Ceremonies. Panasonic will provide more than 100 high brightness compact 20,000 lumen projectors (PT-DZ21K2), multiple Broadcast Grade 2-M/E Live Switchers (AV-HS6000 Series), and other visual equipment.

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"Panasonic is proud to become an 'Official Ceremony Partner' for the first time and support the Olympic Games Ceremonies, to create another successful era of Panasonic’s contributions to the Olympic Movement. There is no doubt that Rio 2016 will present unique and spectacular Ceremonies and Panasonic’s technology and engineers will help deliver a great experience of spectators inside the Maracanã Stadium and for those watching from living rooms around the world," said Satoshi Takeyasu, Executive Officer of Panasonic.

“On Friday 5 August 2016 the world will be watching as thousands of performers and artistic contents bring to life the power and passion of Brazil's colorful heritage at the Opening Ceremony of the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. In a spectacular show designed by one of the most talented creative team on the planet, we will show the best of Brazilian culture and celebration to a global audience of billions. We are now proud to announce that Panasonic visual solutions will help to make our dreams a reality,” said Sidney Levy, CEO of Rio 2016.

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It seems the crisis, like we've been fearing, has hit the ceremonies planning as well, according to this article

http://globoesporte.globo.com/olimpiadas/noticia/2016/01/rio-2016-enfrenta-atrasos-em-obras-falta-de-voluntarios-e-corte-de-custos.html

Faltam voluntários

As dificuldades também estão nas cerimônias de abertura e encerramento, no Maracanã. O Comitê Rio 2016 conseguiu selecionar apenas 3.000 dos 12.000 voluntários que precisa nas audições no fim do ano passado. A campanha para atrair voluntários começou em maio do ano passado, e mesmo prorrogada não atraiu gente suficiente que precisa ter habilidades como dança, acrobacia, skate, patinação, malabares ou grafite, entre outros. Uma nova campanha será lançada.

They started recruiting volunteers for the ceremoniessince last may. Its January and of the estimate 12.000, they could only gather 3.000. Therefore a new campaing will be launched.

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Of course it's too late to change the whole ceremonial concept altogether - and I guess they simply need all those volunteers for the ceremonies now. But it raises the question whether it's always necessary to have that many volunteers/performers for the ceremonies and whether they could even use the same volunteers for different purposes/acts during the ceremonies. Of course this is challenging and they have a big infield to fill at such kind of ceremonies. But is it really impossible to do it low-key in terms of staff numbers and still impressive in terms of visual effect?


That said, I must say I'm surprised that in a nation of more than 200 million people of whom most love to dance, sing and/or celebrate, it is so tough to find more than 3,000 ceremonial volunteers.

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Of course it's too late to change the whole ceremonial concept altogether - and I guess they simply need all those volunteers for the ceremonies now. But it raises the question whether it's always necessary to have that many volunteers/performers for the ceremonies and whether they could even use the same volunteers for different purposes/acts during the ceremonies. Of course this is challenging and they have a big infield to fill at such kind of ceremonies. But is it really impossible to do it low-key in terms of staff numbers and still impressive in terms of visual effect?

That said, I must say I'm surprised that in a nation of more than 200 million people of whom most love to dance, sing and/or celebrate, it is so tough to find more than 3,000 ceremonial volunteers.

Are you crazy, F?? More is more in Ceremonies!!

But seriously, it's probably the vetting + is Rio considered the "show biz" capital of Brazil? LA 1984 ended up hiring 300 professional dancers (i.e., got paid) from Vegas and NYC. Sochi also had to bring in dancers and performers from Kazan and Moscow to take the technically more demanding parts.

I'm surprised though that with all the samba schools in Rio, as you said, they can't find more than 3,000 performer-volunteers. I think it might be the time commitment they are asking of the volunteers. It will take them away from their year-round preps for the 2017 Carnaval??

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But it raises the question whether it's always necessary to have that many volunteers/performers for the ceremonies and whether they could even use the same volunteers for different purposes/acts during the ceremonies.

Not going to work. That area around Maracana is tight enough -- plus having 1,000 people change a few times --??? Where will they change? How does one person go to tthe exact spot where his/her next costume will be hanging? Where do they put their personal things? That is why it is always 1 perfomer-1 costume except for a few instances (like in LA or in Salt Lake where they only had 32 skaters do 6 changes of costumes. 32 is manageable -- but 800-900? Nope. They bring in one group...they do their thing for 6-7-8 minutes. They're moved out; and the next group is brought in.

Also, 10,000 is probably a number covering the 4 major Ceremonies. So maybe 5,500 will really only be used for Opening. With doubles of 3,500 (i.e., volunteers who want to perform in both Opening & Closing), maybe 4,500 for Closing. And then maybe 3,000 (+ handicapped performers) for the Paralympics. And they always have an additional 1,500 or so for back-ups, attrition and last-minute reserves. So 10,000 is just an optimum number they want to have in case the worst case scenarios happen. But this seems to be the first Olympics in history, where the Org Committee has announced that recruiting efforts for Ceremonies have fallen far short of schedule. Ultimately, they will get the numbers.

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Not going to work. That area around Maracana is tight enough -- plus having 1,000 people change a few times --??? Where will they change? How does one person go to tthe exact spot where his/her next costume will be hanging? Where do they put their personal things? That is why it is always 1 perfomer-1 costume except for a few instances (like in LA or in Salt Lake where they only had 32 skaters do 6 changes of costumes. 32 is manageable -- but 800-900? Nope. They bring in one group...they do their thing for 6-7-8 minutes. They're moved out; and the next group is brought in.

It's not entirely impossible- London's Pandemonium drummers turned up again as marshals for the athletes' parade less than an hour later, with clean faces and nice bright sweaters (with baggy arms, and washed with enhanced whiteners, so that when they held hands during the cauldron lighting, and were illuminated with the blacklight / ultraviolet floods which had been used in the "Come Together" cycling scene, they looked like hundreds of glowing doves standing wingtip-to-wingtip).

I really wouldn't want to do it with several groups, or with shorter timescales though.

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It's not entirely impossible- London's Pandemonium drummers turned up again as marshals for the athletes' parade less than an hour later, with clean faces and nice bright sweaters (with baggy arms, and washed with enhanced whiteners, so that when they held hands during the cauldron lighting, and were illuminated with the blacklight / ultraviolet floods which had been used in the "Come Together" cycling scene, they looked like hundreds of glowing doves standing wingtip-to-wingtip).

I really wouldn't want to do it with several groups, or with shorter timescales though.

I think one change would be OK. But didn't the Pandemonium drummers already have the Marshal outfits underneath them (which is why some of them looked bulky)? Also, they had more than 45 mins to go to--where? the basketball venue...to change. But you can't do that with a 10-15 minute gap to change. And it didn't matter where they returned to as Marshals -- I mean just get into the field and line up.

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I think one change would be OK. But didn't the Pandemonium drummers already have the Marshal outfits underneath them (which is why some of them looked bulky)? Also, they had more than 45 mins to go to--where? the basketball venue...to change. But you can't do that with a 10-15 minute gap to change. And it didn't matter where they returned to as Marshals -- I mean just get into the field and line up.

The drummers, unlike single-appearance performers in the Ceremony who were over a mile away, had the privilege of a dressing room within the stadium, and did a full costume change.

See Stefan Hale's blog (which even includes a view of the arriving crowd from the dressing room window).

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The drummers, unlike single-appearance performers in the Ceremony who were over a mile away, had the privilege of a dressing room within the stadium, and did a full costume change.

See Stefan Hale's blog (which even includes a view of the arriving crowd from the dressing room window).

That situation's /\ more the exception than the rule -- again, because of logistic considerations. The Pandemonium costumes probably didn't have to be handled w/ extreme care, ironed for the next use, unlike most other costumes.

And Maracana only has one auxiliary stadium available to it -- so cast & the athletes will pretty much have to share that one.

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That situation's /\ more the exception than the rule -- again, because of logistic considerations. The Pandemonium costumes probably didn't have to be handled w/ extreme care, ironed for the next use, unlike most other costumes.

And Maracana only has one auxiliary stadium available to it -- so cast & the athletes will pretty much have to share that one.

Yes, it was absolutely exceptional, the main reason being that the Marshals were pretty much the last ceremony personnel out of the arena at the end of the ceremony, because they had to stay until all athletes had left, so they wouldn't have got back to the main changing rooms up at Eton Manor until well after 1am.

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^^ I'm sure we'll see similar costumes on either the opening or closing. Its a must. I remember a famous carnival costume designer did the costumes and props for the Rio 2007 opening.

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Yeah, it seems they're betting it this time at innovation rather than eyecandy, because of budget constraint, though i'm trying to remain positive that they can still pull out a good show. A lot of ceremonies can be very good with a small budget .And with all the criticism the Olympics are receiving right now regarding the high costs, maybe a throwback to the 90's would try to calm down the scepticism of many.

Machado seems to be very aware of the criticism Olympics are getting because of its costs, since he mentions that on the article "People can't take anymore these kind of expenses. We're living in new times, now".


Machado adiantou que a cerimônia de abertura olímpica deve ter três etapas sobre o Brasil, mostrando a história, o presente e o futuro do país tanto da forma vista pelos brasileiros como pelo resto do mundo, e que o encerramento será "um grande Carnaval carioca" dirigido por Rosa Magalhães, carnavalesca cinco vezes campeã no Rio por diferentes escolas de samba.

Carnival themed closing ceremony confirmed, by the one and only Rosa Magalhaes. And as expected, the opening ceremony will condense all the history of Brazil on 3 stages (Past, present and Future). We Sydney 2000 now.

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Carnival themed closing ceremony confirmed, by the one and only Rosa Magalhaes. And as expected, the opening ceremony will condense all the history of Brazil on 3 stages (Past, present and Future). We Sydney 2000 now.

Don't you mean Beijing 2008? Sydney didn't really touch up on a future theme in their OC, unless I missed it. And don't count those hoverboards either!

And it's not a surprise we're going to see a more conservative OC comparable to those from the 80s and 90s, and even Sydney 2000. Because of its football configuration, the Maracana would never let the Olympic committee tear up their floor to have props and structures pop out from the ground like all summer OC have done since 2004. I think it's been mentioned that even aerial acts will be kept at a minimum since the roof isn't strong enough to withstand the heavy wire configuration to make such a thing happen.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ric-birch-quits-rio-olympics-role-after-budget-for-ceremonies-production-slashed-75-per-cent/news-story/39ce233c7f1580d453ffec8afb7acb3b

Oh god. The worst thing which could happen just happened. You know stuff is bad when Ric Birch himself leaves the building. I was trying to be positive but after this I think its safe to say we should start to lower our expectations.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ric-birch-quits-rio-olympics-role-after-budget-for-ceremonies-production-slashed-75-per-cent/news-story/39ce233c7f1580d453ffec8afb7acb3b

Oh god. The worst thing which could happen just happened. You know stuff is bad when Ric Birch himself leaves the building. I was trying to be positive but after this I think its safe to say we should start to lower our expectations.

Can't access that. It's only for subscribers. But oh boy, when Birch quits, it's bad. Altho insidethegames says he is staying on as a consultant for the Paralympics (and partner Marco Ballich seems to be staying for the main event). Gosh, first time that the budget of the latest Ceremonies WON'T supercede the previous one. I wonder if they will now include a Zika virus portion, and like the National Health & Children's section in 2012, bring out dancing viruses and babies with little heads fighting them!!! :lol:

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I wonder if they will now include a Zika virus portion, and like the National Health & Children's section in 201, bring out dancing viruses and babies with little heads fighting them!!! :lol:

Oh gawd no! We've already suffered through the travesty that was the NHS segment at London four years ago, the last thing we need is a 2nd world version of Brazil's healthcare system lol

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Can't access that. It's only for subscribers. But oh boy, when Birch quits, it's bad. Altho insidethegames says he is staying on as a consultant for the Paralympics (and partner Marco Ballich seems to be staying for the main event). Gosh, first time that the budget of the latest Ceremonies WON'T supercede the previous one. I wonder if they will now include a Zika virus portion, and like the National Health & Children's section in 201, bring out dancing viruses and babies with little heads fighting them!!! :lol:

hey! why do you always bash my baby. its' not perfect but still lovely spectical to rewatch.

going back to the topic, it's rather obvious that were getting an OC as similar to glasgow 2014. (john barrowman and gaint kilt not included)

so much like the annoucement of the song/artist to present the UK at eurovision, lower your expectation.

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