ofan Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 William was lucky that he got some of Diana's good genes that repair some of the ugliness brought by his fathers side. Why did he (or any of the Royals for that matter) not get braces, it always seemed as though they he and Charles had overbites. I thought all British people had bad teeth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotguy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I read an article stating the American Banks will be watching the EU referendum closely and are willing to pull out of London/UK and relocate to Dublin if needs be. I wonder how the YES camp will be able to reassure the UK public that companies would not leave, to re set up in a country in the EU with its trade deals and advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I read an article stating the American Banks will be watching the EU referendum closely and are willing to pull out of London/UK and relocate to Dublin if needs be. I wonder how the YES camp will be able to reassure the UK public that companies would not leave, to re set up in a country in the EU with its trade deals and advantages. If these companies come out and say these things, or put things in their annaul reports to this effect, no reassurance will work, just as it didn't work when the Scottish YES camp were trying to calm the waters a few weeks ago. Nissan has already said they'd pull out of Sunderland if we left the EU. These companies know their own business and what they need to thrive, and whilst they shouldn't lead the debate, their concerns ought to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I thought all British people had bad teeth? What the hell? I read an article stating the American Banks will be watching the EU referendum closely and are willing to pull out of London/UK and relocate to Dublin if needs be. I wonder how the YES camp will be able to reassure the UK public that companies would not leave, to re set up in a country in the EU with its trade deals and advantages. Not gonna happen, seeing as though London is the Financial Capital of the World, or one of the Financial Capitals of the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Scroll along when clicking this link, it does say London as Number 1 - http://www.forbes.com/pictures/edgl45ghmd/no-1-london/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I thought all British people had bad teeth? Why do so many North Americans have this weird obsession with 'teeth' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Not gonna happen, seeing as though London is the Financial Capital of the World, or one of the Financial Capitals of the World. Rome was once the capital of the world, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 That's the first I have heard as London being the financial capital. Always thought NYC was #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Depends how you measure it. NYC has a far, far larger domestic market, London tends to draw in a similar amount of foreign investment because it straddles a far friendlier timezone and, since the ENRON crisis, actually has laxer regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Always knew London was important as a financial center. Zurich, Hong Kong, and New York being the other premier financial centers I generally associate with lots of money. Looking up the lists, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, Geneva, Singapore and Seoul are also important. Leaving the EU would certainly damage this, as investors would look to Dublin and Paris as their gateways into the EU. Most companies that would have to make a choice between an office inside the EU or outside would take inside. I think the ideological struggle over the shape of the EU is going to change in the next couple of years as people in the Franco-German alliance grow more weary of ever-closer ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I suspect leaving the EU will present London and the UK with opportunities as well as resulting in lost business...thats why tax havens thrive outside of the EU (see Channel Islands, Switzerland and many more). Undoubtedly London would lose some business to Frankfurt and possibly Paris. However, money and banks will generally go where there is a liberal tax system and a robust legal system with proportionate regulation. London has all these now and would continue to have them in future. Multinational companies and banks also tend to locate in London (and Edinburgh) because of the skills base, access to other similar institutions, good air connections around the world and because English is spoken. Access to the EU is as important as these things, but not more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I suspect leaving the EU will present London and the UK with opportunities as well as resulting in lost business...thats why tax havens thrive outside of the EU (see Channel Islands, Switzerland and many more). It would depend, to a fair extent, on how vindictive the remnant EU felt. Most tax havens turn out to be tiny remnants of the old British Empire, being fed business via London. If the EU could find a way to throttle flows of money from remaining member states to London (perhaps even on the specific grounds that it was a hub for tax haven activity) then London, Bermuda and numerous other places would feel the pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Why do so many North Americans have this weird obsession with 'teeth' ? Well, dental health is important too, and if you can get them beautiful as well, why not? (I agree, it does seem like a North American obsession. I think it's because the orthodontic profession knew how to market its wares very well, in a big way.) Plus, there is that other mojo of wanting to look your best in every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Well, dental health is important too, and if you can get them beautiful as well, why not? (I agree, it does seem like a North American obsession. Is dental health part of 'Obamacare' too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Well, dental health is important too, and if you can get them beautiful as well, why not? (I agree, it does seem like a North American obsession. I think it's because the orthodontic profession knew how to market its wares very well, in a big way.) Plus, there is that other mojo of wanting to look your best in every aspect. I've heard that it's a criminal offence to have less than perfect teeth in the US and Canada. I believe it carries the death penalty in some US states! Is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 What the hell? Not gonna happen, seeing as though London is the Financial Capital of the World, or one of the Financial Capitals of the World. Tony, the market is driven by emotion. There was once a time when New York was indeed the capital because the UK was declining. Since then things have changed, but if Scotland ever succeeds in leaving or if the further devolution does not go too well then that title might just transfer back to New York. The economy is never as stable as we think it is and it is wrong to make such bold predictions on a market that changes solely on emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 If Scotland leaves its banks headquarters would move to London. You couldn't have chosen a worse example to illustrate your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I suspect leaving the EU will present London and the UK with opportunities as well as resulting in lost business...thats why tax havens thrive outside of the EU (see Channel Islands, Switzerland and many more). Undoubtedly London would lose some business to Frankfurt and possibly Paris. However, money and banks will generally go where there is a liberal tax system and a robust legal system with proportionate regulation. London has all these now and would continue to have them in future. Multinational companies and banks also tend to locate in London (and Edinburgh) because of the skills base, access to other similar institutions, good air connections around the world and because English is spoken. Access to the EU is as important as these things, but not more so. Well then again this is operating under the assumption that the EU would survive without the UK, which I don't think it could. Why do so many North Americans have this weird obsession with 'teeth' ? The same reason we have weird obsession with how people look to the point of absurdity. Is dental health part of 'Obamacare' too? Not that I know of...that's why it sucks. How is someone without health insurance gonna be able to fix his teeth? I've heard that it's a criminal offence to have less than perfect teeth in the US and Canada. I believe it carries the death penalty in some US states! Is that true? Yes, here in the south. You can pretty much bet that if you live in the states you will have braces from when you are either 11-18. If Scotland leaves its banks headquarters would move to London. You couldn't have chosen a worse example to illustrate your point. But would other businesses stay in London? If the UK leaves the EU as well and then the UK loses Scotland then the UK's position and importance would dramatically change. People were already *predicting* if Scotland had said yes that the British people would have woken up to some bleak markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 But would other businesses stay in London? If the UK leaves the EU as well and then the UK loses Scotland then the UK's position and importance would dramatically change. People were already *predicting* if Scotland had said yes that the British people would have woken up to some bleak markets. If the UK leaves the EU as well, that's different, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29754168 Another nail in the coffin of UK membership of the EU - I can't believe the political incompetence and naivety of the EU Commission. Asking for money from Greece because its economy performed better than they thought between 1995 and 2014... asking for more money from the UK where they know we're half way out the door already ... giving France 1 billion euros when its about to flout Eurozone policies because they're spending too much. What next, will they insist on a ring of European stars around the queens head on pound notes... why not bring in a new law to ban tea drinking while they're at it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 £1.7bn extra from a 20 year payment period isn't actually a lot when you think about it and compare it to our total contribution during this period. But if this is a recalculation going back to 1995, why is the EU demanding the money in one lump by 1st December this year? The EU does itself no favours sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Presented with a £2billion bill...I too would be annoyed. A lot has changed in 35 years...1979 anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I was absolutely furious when I heard about this this morning, more so than I have been on a European issue for a very long time. To claim this is merely a "technical" issue is simply not credible. To base these calculations, at least in part, on activities that go nowhere near the Exchequer is ludicrous. As a gift to those who wish us to get out of this institution, it is Christmas come early. Does anyone know which planet Mr Barroso and his colleagues reside on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/support-for-eu-membership-at-highest-level-since-1991-with-most-brits-wanting-to-stay-in-9811096.html Guardian reporting that the latest poll of UK citizens about whether to leave the EU has the figure wanting to remain in the EU at 56% .... so not all may be lost if this is to be believed. Crucially the poll revealed that slim majority was dependent on EU reform. If Cameron wins next year's election would that precipitate a realignment of views in the EU and a greater willingness to make some kind of deal to keep the UK in? Or is the prevailing mood "f@%K the Brits we have bigger fish to fry? However, there is a real and present danger that stupidity like we've seen today would add momentum to a departure trajectory. I'm finding people I speak to are increasingly pessimistic about the UK remaining in the EU and most of them are or were supporters,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I was absolutely furious when I heard about this this morning, more so than I have been on a European issue for a very long time. To claim this is merely a "technical" issue is simply not credible. To base these calculations, at least in part, on activities that go nowhere near the Exchequer is ludicrous. As a gift to those who wish us to get out of this institution, it is Christmas come early. Does anyone know which planet Mr Barroso and his colleagues reside on? Did you miss the part where the economic data these calculations are based one was given to them by the British government. It was the British that said, oops we didn't give you completely accurate information. Ripley, its not giving France money. It is refunding money that France has paid that it shouldn't have because other countries didn't give completely accurate or comparable economic data to Eurostat. If this was the other way around and Britain was the one that overpaid by 1 billion Euros and France the one that underpaid by 2 billion Euros the reaction in the City and in the minds of Little Englanders everywhere would be considerably different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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