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Won't Scotland still compete in the Commonwealth Games even if they become independent?

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And the Queen still stays head of state whether they secede or not.

Exactly, so protests are pointless.

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Scotland will just be like any other Commonwealth country that has the Queen as head of state just like Australia, Canada and New Zealand as examples.

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Won't Scotland still compete in the Commonwealth Games even if they become independent?

No they need to be like 'MERICA and tell them to eff off (JK)...even though they will share the same queen, infrastructure, social programs, national bank, etc.

The whole thing is pointless considering they are keep everything they have now :rolleyes:

Scotland will just be like any other Commonwealth country that has the Queen as head of state just like Australia, Canada and New Zealand as examples.

Yeah, except Scotland will be more like the EU if anything. The only things that are changing is the flag and Scotland's parliamentary powers.

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i hope they do separate, and start seeing other people.

take it from an american, life's too short to be married to england.

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At this point, most polls show the No winning by a huge margin (57% over 35%). Aw well, we all knew they would most likely keep the status quo. Specially considering things weren't going to change that much with the Queen still being the head of state and everything.

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Looking likely for a stay in the Union, would Scotland revisit a referendum in the 20s?

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Looking likely for a stay in the Union, would Scotland revisit a referendum in the 20s?

No. Even Salmond has said this is a once in a generation opportunity. In reality, I'd expect the outcome to stand for decades.

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You would think, but if the vote is close it will only embolden and embitter the independence seekers.

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Frankly, it won't matter if the vote is close or not. If it's a close vote in favour of YES how much time do you think unhappy people who voted NO will be given? Very little I'd have thought. We can't have a democratic asymmetry where a YES vote is 100% binding forever, but a NO vote results in agitation and more parliamentary time take up by - what will have proven to be - a minority cause.

Let's put it this way: The UK will have given Scotland an opportunity few places with seccessionist movements get from their governments - an opportunity to democratically decide their own future. The SNP couldn't ask for any more than that from the UK government. If they blow it now, that's their own problem.

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There's the difference between Passion and Practicality.

We would all love in our hearts for Scotland to be "free" but 300 years of intertwined socioeconomic relations with England now make the divorce messy and Scotland wouldn't come out on top. The wealth of 60million people suddenly drops down to 4. There will be cross border migration and the benefits of unity will be lost. UK will build it's second aircraft carrier elsewhere?

The best practical solution would be staying in the union but with near total autonomy as per USA, and Australia. And turn Westminister into a federal government.(?)

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A good day one from Scotland in the tally.

Just watched the Hannah Miley and then Ross Murdoch ceremonies. The Independence campaigners will be loving it. Such a pretty effective, free and emotional campaign advert for them. Gonna be interesting seeing the polls after the games.

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At the opening ceremony there were no suporters loning the way handing out no thanks leaflets despote there being an amnesty on campaigning during he games. Eitjer desperation from them or just plain stupidity.

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Scottish sports stars face Rio 2016 Olympic ban if voters back independence in 11 days time, warns Games chief

  • Independent Scotland will not be able to compete in the 2016 Olympics in Rio

  • Olympic vice president Craig Reedie says Scots athletes unlikely to compete

There isn't enough time between independence and the start of the Games

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Haha, what a misleading headline (Daily Fail)

They'd represent GB in Rio. No athletes are going to be "banned".

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......would be nice to see a Scottish team at the Olympics.

2012 London / Scottish Medalists Medal Name Sport Event

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Andy Murray Tennis Men's Singles

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Chris Hoy Cycling Team Sprint

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Chris Hoy Cycling Keirin

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Heather Stanning Rowing Coxless Pair

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Katherine Grainger Rowing Double Sculls

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Scott Brash Equestrian Team Jumping

16px-Gold_medal_icon.svg.png Gold Timothy Baillie Canoeing Slalom C-2 Team

16px-Silver_medal_icon.svg.png Silver Andy Murray Tennis Mixed Doubles

16px-Silver_medal_icon.svg.png Silver David Florence Canoeing Slalom C-2 Team

16px-Silver_medal_icon.svg.png Silver Luke Patience Sailing Mens 470

16px-Silver_medal_icon.svg.png Silver Michael Jamieson Swimming 200m Breaststroke

16px-Bronze_medal_icon.svg.png Bronze Daniel Purvis Gymnastics Team All-round

16px-Bronze_medal_icon.svg.png Bronze Laura Bartlett Field Hockey

16px-Bronze_medal_icon.svg.png Bronze Emily Maguire Field Hockey

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Fact is, the rest of the UK needs England. It's a fact that Economically, Politically and Socially, England is the strength of the UK.

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Haha, what a misleading headline (Daily Fail)

They'd represent GB in Rio. No athletes are going to be "banned".

Scotland would be excluded, qualification is underway. The die is cast. Only independent Scottish athletes would be able to compete and would compete under the Olympic flag. Even than, it would be difficult because of how qualification works. Athletes in most sports gain quotas for their NOC, they don't qualify themselves to the Games. Montenegro just barely made it into Beijing after becoming independent a full two years before. Late 2015 is at best when Scotland would get UN approval. Meaning it would be in Rio itself that a Scottish NOC would be recognized.

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Fact is, the rest of the UK needs England. It's a fact that Economically, Politically and Socially, England is the strength of the UK.

Yeah...we kind of know that aready...But the Europe keeps the UK going as well...and you want to pull out?

Scotland will just rejoin the EU.

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Funny how stuff has changed in the last months. From the No winning with a big margin we went to a technical draw between the two options.


This is going to be Quebec 1995 all over again

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Funny how stuff has changed in the last months. From the No winning with a big margin we went to a technical draw between the two options.

This is going to be Quebec 1995 all over again

Gosh I can remember the vitriolic verbal spitting afterwards when Quebec failed right on the line...as usual, immigration got the blame.

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I thought it was the money as well. As most on the NO side of the Quebec 1995 Referendum were greatly concerned on how the economic situation would go. Surely had a sovereign government been formed, they would have spent millions in producing new banknotes and currency for say a Quebec Dollar, which would be growing ever worthless against either Canadian or American Dollars each coming year.

Of course now the PQ are claiming that they will keep the Canadian Dollar in some sort of monetary agreement.

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