DannyelBrazil Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Some hot source inside the IOC told me that John Coates said in a conversation with other major IOC members that the plan B for Tokyo in case of an earthquake or any other disaster will be Rio. Trust me British press. Destroying the image of Brazil for some pounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Some hot source inside the IOC told me that John Coates said in a conversation with other major IOC members that the plan B for Tokyo in case of an earthquake or any other disaster will be Rio. Trust me British press. Destroying the image of Brazil for some pounds... Can you stop with the 'British Press' digging please. It's International Press, not just ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Some hot source inside the IOC told me that John Coates said in a conversation with other major IOC members that the plan B for Tokyo in case of an earthquake or any other disaster will be Rio. Trust me British press. Destroying the image of Brazil for some pounds... I doubt it the way things are going at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 The statistics on the article are interesting though, considering Athens finished behind schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Oops... English media (yes, English media) has just been rebutted by Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/09/us-olympics-rio-london-idUSKBN0DP11C20140509?feedType=RSS&feedName=sportsNews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Being specific is important. It's just just British media "bending the truth", it's not just English media, it's London media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Oh God... You said the forbidden word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Some hot source inside the IOC told me that John Coates said in a conversation with other major IOC members that the plan B for Tokyo in case of an earthquake or any other disaster will be Rio. Trust me British press. Destroying the image of Brazil for some pounds... At this rate Tokyo's venues will finish before RIo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 If they don't complete the venues in time what does happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's International Media, not just ours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 If they don't complete the venues in time what does happen? Close off the beach, draw some lines in the sand, and have a sports day in the Brazillian sunshine. Maybe that'd be cricket's chance to get an Olympic spot too, as long as Thomas Bach's remembered to put the cricket set and tennis ball in the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Close off the beach, draw some lines in the sand, and have a sports day in the Brazillian sunshine. Maybe that'd be cricket's chance to get an Olympic spot too, as long as Thomas Bach's remembered to put the cricket set and tennis ball in the boot.I wish it was as simple as that haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I wish it was as simple as that haha It's not that much more complicated. If an venue isn't finished, the court of play will probably be done... it just might not have all the seats or whatnot. Play on. If the court of play isn't ready, you move it to a different venue. Other than a velodrom (and maybe something I'm forgeetting) you can slap together a reasonable competition field really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Will there ever be an end to this kindergarten behaviour by certain people on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Will there ever be an end to this kindergarten behaviour by certain people on here? Don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's not that much more complicated. If an venue isn't finished, the court of play will probably be done... it just might not have all the seats or whatnot. Play on. If the court of play isn't ready, you move it to a different venue. Other than a velodrom (and maybe something I'm forgeetting) you can slap together a reasonable competition field really quickly. The court of play is usually one of the last features to be added to the venue, alongside seating I think, unless they change their construction schedule. That being said, what if the 'other venue' isn't ready either? To be honest there's usually only one venue per sport (excluding football), time tabling these rearrangements would be a catastrophe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 The court of play is usually one of the last features to be added to the venue, alongside seating I think, unless they change their construction schedule. That being said, what if the 'other venue' isn't ready either? To be honest there's usually only one venue per sport (excluding football), time tabling these rearrangements would be a catastrophe! If a basketball arena isn't ready... you play basketball somewhere else. There's a ton of places to play basketball in/near Rio. Many of hte sports require little more than a gym with some seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 If a basketball arena isn't ready... you play basketball somewhere else. There's a ton of places to play basketball in/near Rio. Many of hte sports require little more than a gym with some seats.Will these smaller 'gyms' be able to accommodate the numerous tv broadcasters from around the world? In simpler terms, will there be enough space for them to film? If not, then the money lost would be huge, effecting not only the profits of the broadcasters, but the city of Rio too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Will these smaller 'gyms' be able to accommodate the numerous tv broadcasters from around the world? In simpler terms, will there be enough space for them to film? If not, then the money lost would be huge, effecting not only the profits of the broadcasters, but the city of Rio too. The broadcasters are fine back in the international broadcast center. You just need a set of cameras in the venue. Ideal? No. But it's won't be a disaster or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's not so much the primary effects of the late venues that will potentially have an impact on these games (such as changing venues) but the secondary effects (such as broadcasting rights etc) that will have the real destructive power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hj_2012 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 The broadcasters are fine back in the international broadcast center. You just need a set of cameras in the venue. Ideal? No. But it's won't be a disaster or anything. That's a fair point. I am sure they'll get everything done just on time, like Athens did, and produce a fantastic games anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 If they move the Gymanstics to Rio Centro Hall, Rio already have a NBA-like Arena ready for basketball. At this rate Tokyo's venues will finish before RIo They could start by cleaning their own bay too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 I think this article is not fair, but I am posting it because it shows a perspective from media in one of the losing 2016 bid cities... Chicago To Olympic Committee: Still Think Brazil Is A Better Choice? May 10, 2014 Chicago Tribune When the International Olympic Committee rejected Chicago and two other finalists and awarded the 2016 Summer Games to Rio de Janeiro, there were tears in Daley Plaza and an early Carnaval in deliriously happy Brazil. Nearly five years later, it's fair to ask: Who was the real winner? Rio's plans for a vast amount of development to prepare for the big show in 2016 have fallen far behind schedule. There's talk of an Olympic-size debacle. The expected price tag for the Rio Games has jumped by at least 30 percent from the original estimate. Workers seeking higher pay have taken advantage of the increasingly tight construction schedule to stage strikes and slowdowns. Brazil's economy, which was hot when Rio's bid won, has cooled as global investors have turned away from developing markets. Concerns about Rio's readiness that were glossed over when the decision was made are now creating alarm. Consider Rio's grossly inadequate sewage system. The waters where 2016 sailing events will take place have nearly 200 times the fecal pollution that is permitted in U.S. waters. Note to organizers: Distribute hand sanitizer to the medalists on that podium. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chicago-to-olympic-committee-still-think-brazil-is-a-better-choice-2014-5#ixzz31TWxqE46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 ^^The article is fair. Tony, this is a fair article about bumpy Rio preparations. Direct to the point, without sensationalism, most accurate information. American media 1 vs British Media 0 My only doubt is I'm not sure how better is Russia against Brazil in terms of money. Our GDP is bigger and the taxes Brazilian Govt. takes from citizen skyrockets to 40% of the GDP. As an example, only federal taxes could pay 40 Olympic Games per year... The problem of Brazil is not money, it's bureaucracy, inefficiency, stupid authorities... And the hand-sanitizer irony was not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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