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If B.C. did not want to provide a small amount of funding for the World Cup, it's hard to imagine that the province will be willing to spend vastly more money on a project with substantially less public interest and commercial return.

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33 minutes ago, Nacre said:

If B.C. did not want to provide a small amount of funding for the World Cup, it's hard to imagine that the province will be willing to spend vastly more money on a project with substantially less public interest and commercial return.

Yeah but we are desperate for a host

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The only realistic choice is London. Capital costs would be near zero with the venues from 2012 re-used and no additional transport systems or hotels would be needed.

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On 6/6/2021 at 12:34 PM, Nacre said:

The only realistic choice is London. Capital costs would be near zero with the venues from 2012 re-used and no additional transport systems or hotels would be needed.

Would London even be interested? It seems like the CWF would need to figure out what a revamped and scaled down CWGs would look like before considering a host. Maybe the CWF scraps 2026 altogether and focuses on the new model for 2030?

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With no need to build new venues, I don't see why London would turn down the chance to host an event like the Commonwealth Games if it was offered as the emergency host of last resort, as I think we're envisaging may be necessary. In theory, at least, it should be an economic win on the grounds of promoting visitor spending without high pre-event constructions costs and a potential political win if the pre-pandemic idea of bidding to host the Olympics again around 2036 actually had any substance to it.

My concern, though, is that going to a city like London in an emergency will not solve the core problem. The Commonwealth Games are not on the same scale as the Olympics and never will be. The CGF has to understand that and reform its hosting criteria so that it can go more easily to cities, and indeed regions, for whom it would be like an Olympics. The challenge is simple - adapt or die.

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I think that the biggest problem is that Australia and Britain are something of a crutch for the CGF. Even in relatively prosperous countries like Canada and New Zealand there is little desire for the kind of games that were hosted in Glasgow and the Gold Coast.

It was hard to force through drastic reform when there were still some bidders available. But taking large sums of public money away from other areas and diverting them to sporting venues is a really hard sell in places outside of Australia and the UK. Hence the difficulty in getting games in Canada or South Africa across the finish line.

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On 6/6/2021 at 9:34 AM, Nacre said:

The only realistic choice is London. Capital costs would be near zero with the venues from 2012 re-used and no additional transport systems or hotels would be needed.

Have they ever had two successive CWGs in the same country before?  I think that's the hitch for a 2026 CWG turn for London.  It would vastly outshadow Birmingham 2022.  

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On 7/12/2021 at 9:41 PM, Nacre said:

I think that the biggest problem is that Australia and Britain are something of a crutch for the CGF. Even in relatively prosperous countries like Canada and New Zealand there is little desire for the kind of games that were hosted in Glasgow and the Gold Coast.

It was hard to force through drastic reform when there were still some bidders available. But taking large sums of public money away from other areas and diverting them to sporting venues is a really hard sell in places outside of Australia and the UK. Hence the difficulty in getting games in Canada or South Africa across the finish line.

The fact there has only been one Commonwealth Games outside the UK and Australia so far this century really emphasises that point. But, having experienced the Glasgow games first hand as I did, I never had the impression that they were too big for the event or for the city. I can't really speak about the Gold Coast as my memory of those Games is pretty sketchy. But it seems to me that what is needed is, perhaps, a model following the kind of logic that the Rugby World Cup seems to have, where it's understood that going to a heartland nation like, say, New Zealand, comes with a financial hit which can be made up for by going to a more lucrative market the time after that. If that means reducing venue requirements and the like to encourage more than just the UK and Australia, then so be it.

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Did some research this morning on what Olympic and Commonwealth Games events CWG countries have hosted and bidded for so we could identify what Commonwealth countries are capable of hosting future Commonwealth Games.

Europe:

England (CWG host in 1934, 2002, 2022. CWG bidder in 1978. Summer OLY host in 1908, 1948, 2012. Summer OLY bidder in 1992, 1996, 2000. Summer YOG bidder in 2018

Scotland (CWG host in 1970, 1986, 2014. CWYG host in 2000, CWG bidder in 1966

Wales (CWG host in 1958. CWG bidder in 1994

Isle of Man (CWYG host in 2011. CWYG bidder in 2008

Gibraltar (CWYG bidder in 2021

Oceania:

Australia (CWG host in 1938, 1962, 1982, 2006, 2018. CWYG host in 2004. CWG bidder in 1974, 1998. Summer OLY host in 1956, 2000, 2032. Summer OLY bidder in 1992, 1996.

New Zealand (CWG host in 1950, 1974, 1990. CWG bidder in 1970,

Samoa (CWYG host in 2015

Americas:

Canada (CWG host in 1930, 1942, 1954, 1978, 1994. CWG bidder in 2010. Summer OLY host in 1976. Summer OLY bidder in 1956, 1972, 1996, 2008. Winter OLY host in 1988, 2010. Winter OLY bidder in 1932, 1936, 1956, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 2002

Jamaica (CWG host in 1966

Bahamas (CWYG host in 2017

Trinidad and Tobago (CWYG bidder in 2021)

Africa:

South Africa (Summer OLY bidder in 2004.

Nigeria (CWG bidder in 2014, Summer YOG bidder in 2022

Zimbabwe (CWG bidder in 1966

Botswana (Summer YOG bidder in 2022

Asia:

Malaysia (CWG host in 1998. Summer OLY bidder in 2008, Summer YOG bidder in 2010

Singapore (Summer YOG host in 2010

India (CWG host in 2010, CWYG host in 2008. CWG bidder in 1990, 1994

Sri Lanka (CWG bidder in 2018

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On 7/14/2021 at 10:29 AM, arwebb said:

The fact there has only been one Commonwealth Games outside the UK and Australia so far this century really emphasises that point. But, having experienced the Glasgow games first hand as I did, I never had the impression that they were too big for the event or for the city. I can't really speak about the Gold Coast as my memory of those Games is pretty sketchy. But it seems to me that what is needed is, perhaps, a model following the kind of logic that the Rugby World Cup seems to have, where it's understood that going to a heartland nation like, say, New Zealand, comes with a financial hit which can be made up for by going to a more lucrative market the time after that. If that means reducing venue requirements and the like to encourage more than just the UK and Australia, then so be it.

New Zealand's CWG hosting isn't on this current Left leaning government's agenda this side of 2030. There was a last minute approach for a Christchurch 2026 hosting by locals but really just to encourage the new roofed main stadium to be built. (Don't even get started on that debacle...now underway but only 25k seats!)

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On 7/30/2021 at 4:55 PM, Alexjc said:

New Zealand's CWG hosting isn't on this current Left leaning government's agenda this side of 2030. There was a last minute approach for a Christchurch 2026 hosting by locals but really just to encourage the new roofed main stadium to be built. (Don't even get started on that debacle...now underway but only 25k seats!)

Really? Wasn't the Christchurch stadium supposed to hold between 30,000 and 40,000?

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