stryker Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Might it be time for a significant scale down of the CWGs? I know the CWF had talked about it and reduced the number of compulsory sports but might it be necessary to go further such as perhaps reduce the size to something more on the scale of the Jeux de Francophone or the SE Asian Games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted February 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 12:47 PM, TorchbearerSydney said: I agree, but pretty sure a Victorian/Melbourne Games will retain all the Commonwealth sports....its 2030 when things may take a dramatic turn. Agree, a new era and decade... However I don't see a mass culling of events. I know there has been a lot of pushback with Track Cycling due to it's cost, elitism, and insistence of being an indoor spruce track event. This is why Durban tried to be rid of it. But the only nations that seemingly want to host already have those facilities. I'd like to see them go down to say...12 sports?... Have some sports on an eight year rotation? A classic example is Netball, a non Olympic event and not really played outside of the commonwealth. England wins 2018 CWGs. NZ bundled out without even medalling comes back in 2019 to win the World Cup...So who are the true champions? Glasgow showed the way forward in '14. (and to a lesser extent Victoria '94 in the ten sports era). Gold Coast 2018 proved the games can go back to a more inclusive event although still came in around the same as Glasgow. Melbourne/Victoria could also prove the concept of regionalisation that helps lower costs. The last "really mattered" CWGs was Brisbane 1982, as the Olympics went through the boycott era. The largest "realistic" CWGs was Manchester 2002. Kuala Lumpa '98, and Melbourne '06 were far too big and this had a detrimental effect on New Delhi '10 which assumed it needed to compete in size and grandeur...Now considered one of the worst games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 I can excuse KL for being big- this was Malaysia's big coming out party on the world stage....but Melbourne and Delhi were just over-the-top. It was so obvious Melbourne was trying to compete with Sydney 2000 for scale (I went to both), and the then Premier even said that, but what a pointless exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 I don't know about Malaysia's bid yet. It hasn't been decided on that for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 But everyone will be able to get in on a Family Pass! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/tasmania-2026-commonwealth-games-bid/100820148 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulu Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 It would have to be downsized more in Tasmania than Victoria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 8:25 AM, TorchbearerSydney said: I can excuse KL for being big- this was Malaysia's big coming out party on the world stage....but Melbourne and Delhi were just over-the-top. It was so obvious Melbourne was trying to compete with Sydney 2000 for scale (I went to both), and the then Premier even said that, but what a pointless exercise. I don't disagree, but I don't understand how Melbourne could have held 2006 any differently? Should it have never bidded at all? Of course Sydney taking the Olympics was part of it, but it was also Australia's time to host and Melbourne was the obvious city at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Great news. If Victoria don’t bid then Tassie will. Tasmania can show other countries that you don’t need to be big to host a commonwealth games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 As for news of Tasmania putting its hand up - good luck to them. It would be great of a joint bid from Hobart and Launceston could get off the ground. Combined they would offer a Victoria '94 scale event. However I'm concerned that there is too little time for them to toy with this experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Melbourne was fine, but the Premier (Kennett) kept stating how it would be bigger than Sydney- which is absurd. The facilities were huge, the ceremonies monumental, even the ticket prices were ridiculous ( I was at the opening and the stadium was only 60 percent full for example ). It was all over-the-top. It could be done on half the budget now and be just as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Tasmania is lacking in facilities imo. Opening ceremony at Blundstone Arena? Not a lot on indoor arenas. Mostly outdoor. Hobart: Blundstone Arena, MyState Bank Arena, KGV Oval, KGV Park, Twin Ovals, Domain Athletic Centre, Domain Tennis Centre, NTCA Ground, North Hobart Oval, Tasmanian Hockey Centre Launceston: UTAS Stadium, Silverdome Ulverstone: Ulverstone Sports & Leisure Centre Swimming will need to find a venue, Athletics could be at the Domain Athletic Centre but would need quite a bit of temporary seating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1119075/tasmania-2026-commonwealth-games-bid?fbclid=IwAR2mm1_uNsVF9S0s0C_FYT4zeXjdeBPnIR_GHQux6K9CuEKNfDUIDm-Q5lw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100820252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 15 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said: Melbourne was fine, but the Premier (Kennett) kept stating how it would be bigger than Sydney- which is absurd. The facilities were huge, the ceremonies monumental, even the ticket prices were ridiculous ( I was at the opening and the stadium was only 60 percent full for example ). It was all over-the-top. It could be done on half the budget now and be just as good. Well - Kennett was an idiot at the best of times most Victorians would agree with that. Everyone knew that the event was smaller than the Olympics. In some ways 2006 had as much to do with Atlanta than it did Sydney. It demonstrated what a 1996 Olympics might have felt like and was mentioned at the time as paving the way for a Melbourne tilt at an Olympics post-2020 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 The more I think about it the more it seems like Tasmania would have been a nice idea if they expressed interest years ago. Even for a scaled down Commonwealth Games they lack the necessary infrastructure and there is simply not enough time to plan and construct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotguy II Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 I personally think Melbourne should have went for the 2032 Olympics over Brisbane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Scotguy II said: I personally think Melbourne should have went for the 2032 Olympics over Brisbane. A Melbourne Olympics will never happen because the IOC mandates the games must be held in the middle of the year. The combination of weather and the AFL prevents this from happening. Would be better as an early Autumn or Spring games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scotguy II said: I personally think Melbourne should have went for the 2032 Olympics over Brisbane. Unfortunately, the new IOC rules mandate that the Summer Games must be held in July/August. Because it’s too cold and wet at this time, is why Melbourne, Sydney and other southern capitals are ruled out of hosting the Summer Olympics. Sad but true. The new rules were introduced after Sydney hosted the Games in September and October, 2000. The huge amounts of money that NBC pour into the IOC is thought to be behind this July/August Hosting rule. Brisbane/South East Queensland and it’s great weather in July/August was then the logical choice to bid for the 2032 Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 lol, identical responses at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australian Kiwi Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 hours ago, AustralianFan said: Brisbane/South East Queensland and it’s great weather in July/August was then the logical choice to bid for the 2032 Games. TBH it'll still be a fairly mild/cool Olympics. Brisbane isn't tropical. However warmer than wet and windy Sydney and frosty Melbourne in July. Lucky for Brisbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Australian Kiwi said: TBH it'll still be a fairly mild/cool Olympics. Brisbane isn't tropical. However warmer than wet and windy Sydney and frosty Melbourne in July. Lucky for Brisbane I agree but July/August weather for optimum athletic performance. Max temps low 20s Min temps mid teens Relatively low precipitation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 21 hours ago, TorchbearerSydney said: Melbourne was fine, but the Premier (Kennett) kept stating how it would be bigger than Sydney- which is absurd. Pretty good trick from Kennett seeing he was not even Premier anymore when Melbourne was awarded the 2006 games in October 1999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Decent point. It was Ron Walker feeding the rivalry overhype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Victorian said: A Melbourne Olympics will never happen because the IOC mandates the games must be held in the middle of the year. The combination of weather and the AFL prevents this from happening. Would be better as an early Autumn or Spring games. What mandate? If you're the only city who wants the games, then you can host it any time you please. But it was Brisbane that put their hand up and the AOC went with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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