mr.bernham Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 In a book former Chinese Olympic Committee President admitted that Beijing officials cut a deal with Rogge supporters during this race. According to him the deal essentially made Rogge President and got Beijing the games. He said that had this deal not gone through Toronto would have hosted and should have hosted 2008. While Rogge would have been President regardless of this deal, I believe that many of us could agree that Toronto had the better bid. Some here would say that these were Beijing's games to win, but based on this apparently they were not. I'm interested in hearing all of your 'expert' opinions and possibly information on this debacle/scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think that's a lot of bullsh!t. I'm certainly in the camp that thinks Beijing didn't need to cut any deals to win. It was their's to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Sounds like absolute rubbish. There was no way the IOC wasn't going back to Asia and there is no way they were saying no to China again. Toronto made the wrong choice. If the C.O.C. wanted a summer Games they should've passed on 2008, told Vancouver to hold back and put Toronto forward for 2012. The upside is Vancouver staged a stellar Games and Canada showed the world they could stage an amazing Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Sounds like a load of bull to me as well. Beijing was the clear favourite in the 2008 race right from the start, even if Toronto undoubtedly had a good bid. But history proved that Beijing were highly successful Games, even if they were tinged with the political controversies and the simple fact that they took place in a totalitarian country. So I don't know why I should agree that Toronto had the better bid. Technically, the Beijing Games were excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 beijing, bernham, bullsh*t... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 He may be right but Beijing won be a landslide. Beijing would have still likely won had "this deal" never had happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Even if there was a scandal (Which I believe there wasn't), what could possibly be done? 2008 is in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I have not made this up, this is straight from someone who worked on the Beijing bid. I would like to think it's not true and that Beijing won fair an square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 It's true Toronto's bid was technically better, but this really came down to the IOC being ready for an Olympics in the largest country on earth. It was China's turn, and it wasn't really close from the start. Both Toronto and Paris made a bad call, and look where that's gotten the two cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team USA Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 It's true Toronto's bid was technically better, but this really came down to the IOC being ready for an Olympics in the largest country on earth. It was China's turn, and it wasn't really close from the start. Both Toronto and Paris made a bad call, and look where that's gotten the two cities. China is the largest country on earth? Even the US is bigger or did you mean in terms of population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 China is the largest country on earth? Even the US is bigger or did you mean in terms of population Population duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Beijing bid was great, and this was their time. Yet the fact that then President who was involved with the bid said they cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durban Sandshark Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Total garbage, I say. Agree with everyone else that 2008 was Beijing's to lose. China was becoming a global power, not just in sports and (still is) a very lucrative area to tap into that couldn't be ignored up to that point. After touching down in Australia, Asia was ready again. Toronto would've been great, but it's going to get some warmup multisports practice with next year's Pan Am Games to hopefully springboard into a another Olympic bid. We wouldn't have the great 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reindeer Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 China is the largest country on earth? Even the US is bigger or did you mean in terms of population China is usually ranked third largest and the US at fourth place in terms of area although their margin of difference has been disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team USA Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 China is usually ranked third largest and the US at fourth place in terms of area although their margin of difference has been disputed. Sorry for the mess up on my phone I don't dispute China is bigger than tbe lower 48 but with Alaska US is bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 baron, beijing, bernham, bullsh*t... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Ha, ha. Not funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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