Where's the stadium for the ceremonies?

[scoobiesnacks]

I'm yet to see any picture or map of were and what is being used to host the Opening , Closing and Medal ceremonies. Given Sochi just raised the stakes somewhat when it comes to ceremonies, and Olympic Winter games parks, they're not underestimating this are they?

I know they moved it from the Ski jump, which sounded completely unrealistic.

[scoobiesnacks]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Park_of_Hoenggye

This is what wikipedia says :

The Olympic Park of Hoenggye (or Hoenggae/Hwaengye) will be an area where the temporary venue for the opening and closing ceremonies of the 2018 Winter Olympics will be built.

The Park is located in Daegwallyeong-myeon, about two kilometres (1.2 mi) away from Alpensia Resort. It is named after the nearby village (ri) of Hoenggye-ri.

The Olympic Park will be an 80,000-square-metre (860,000 sq ft) site in Hoenggye. The park will be the site of a temporary 50,000-seat stadium, which will be dismantled after the Games.

In addition the Park will include a Medal Plaza, an Olympic exhibition hall, as well as traditional food markets and other attractions, which will remain as heritage facilities.

[hektor]

As said elsewhere, there was an image of the stadium in the PyeongChang pavilion at Sochi, and it was looking a lot like the Los Angeles Pacific Coliseum.

I asked to two of the hostesses of the pavilion where exactly it was, but they thought it was at the coastal cluster ! So I gave up locating it. The river around it on the picture in the pavillion however moreover matches the geolocalisation provided by wikipedia.

I assume the stadium will be a temporary structure like Albertville's; regarding the ceremony at the ski jump, I rewatched recently the 1994 Ceremony and it seems to me that it worked quite well.

Edited February 28, 2014 by hektor

[scoobiesnacks]

Where did you watch the 1994 ceremony?

I think Beijing, London and Sochi have raised the stakes when it comes ceremonies. it would need to be quite a sophisticated temporary stadium to compete - there would need to be an aerial capability for lifting things and an underground area or raised platform. Given they'll have no roof ! in a winter venue - this isn't downtown Vancouver after all - I'm intrigued how on earth they'll do it to modern ceremony standards.

[StefanMUC]

Where did you watch the 1994 ceremony?

I think Beijing, London and Sochi have raised the stakes when it comes ceremonies. it would need to be quite a sophisticated temporary stadium to compete - there would need to be an aerial capability for lifting things and an underground area or raised platform. Given they'll have no roof ! in a winter venue - this isn't downtown Vancouver after all - I'm intrigued how on earth they'll do it to modern ceremony standards.

Maybe it's time to approach the ceremonies keeping in mind it's *Winter* Games...Why do all ceremonies have to have lifting capability from now on or an underground area? A bit of creativity and relation to the actual setting of the Games would be nice.

[scoobiesnacks]

It will get very interesting if it snows.

[StefanMUC]

It will get very interesting if it snows.

Snow at Winter Games, the thought alone!!!!

[hektor]

I have the video of the Lillehammer ceremony. I collect old Olympic videos.

Edited February 28, 2014 by hektor

[Olympian2004]

As said elsewhere, there was an image of the stadium in the PyeongChang pavilion at Sochi, and it was looking a lot like the Los Angeles Pacific Coliseum.

I asked to two of the hostesses of the pavilion where exactly it was, but they thought it was at the coastal cluster ! So I gave up locating it. The river around it on the picture in the pavillion however moreover matches the geolocalisation provided by wikipedia.

I assume the stadium will be a temporary structure like Albertville's; regarding the ceremony at the ski jump, I rewatched recently the 1994 Ceremony and it seems to me that it worked quite well.

What do you mean by Los Angeles Pacific Coliseum? The Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum that hosted the athletics and the ceremonies in 1932 and 1984? The Pacific Coliseum was the figure skating and short track venue at the Vancouver 2010 Games, that's why I'm a bit confused in terms of the name.

And one more question: The image in the PyeongChang pavilion in Sochi, did it show an open-roofed stadium or an indoor arena?

I have the video of the Lillehammer ceremony. I collect old Olympic videos.

The Lillehammer Olympic opening ceremony is also on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOWDz4pzql8

There also once was the complete closing ceremony on YouTube, but our friend Guardian (who had uploaded it) sadly closed his account.

[scoobiesnacks]

What do you mean by Los Angeles Pacific Coliseum? The Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum that hosted the athletics and the ceremonies in 1932 and 1984? The Pacific Coliseum was the figure skating and short track venue at the Vancouver 2010 Games, that's why I'm a bit confused in terms of the name.

And one more question: The image in the PyeongChang pavilion in Sochi, did it show an open-roofed stadium or an indoor arena?

On YouTube their are various tours of the Sochi pavilion, and although none of them show the venues up close there's enough detail to see the ceremony stadium looking like the LA stadium , which I'll refer to as a U shaped stadium and it has an open roof. Which I guess means they will have to plan for possible snow.

[eternalcobi]

I have the video of the Lillehammer ceremony. I collect old Olympic videos.

Then it will be nice to open up a Youtube account and upload it, unless you could tell me that these remain in private

[Brekkie Boy]

Where did you watch the 1994 ceremony?

I think Beijing, London and Sochi have raised the stakes when it comes ceremonies. it would need to be quite a sophisticated temporary stadium to compete - there would need to be an aerial capability for lifting things and an underground area or raised platform. Given they'll have no roof ! in a winter venue - this isn't downtown Vancouver after all - I'm intrigued how on earth they'll do it to modern ceremony standards.

That's what makes it all the more interesting. There is a risk of all these ceremonies being very much the same if they all just do what their predecessors do - it'll be a welcome change to see this go in a different direction.

And the Lillehammer opening ceremony is the first video you'll find with a "Lillehammer 1994" search on Youtube.

[baron-pierreIV]

Where did you watch the 1994 ceremony?

In the comfort of my couch!!

I think the 2018 Opening Ceremony should be held in the parking lot behind me. I can sell tickets by the 1/2 hour increments!!

[Tony E Loves Architecture]

The Stadium must be a steel construction if it's Temporary surely?

[zekekelso]

The Stadium must be a steel construction if it's Temporary surely?

The first stadium will be made of sticks. The second will be made of straw.

The final plan will be made of bricks.

[baron-pierreIV]

The first stadium will be made of sticks. The second will be made of straw.

The final plan will be made of bricks.

U just gave away the whole secret flow of the Opening.

[gotosy]

2018 Olympic ceremonies to be held in Pyeongchang

SEOUL, Oct. 16 -- The 2018 Pyeongchang Winter Olympic Games ceremonies will be held in Pyeongchang rather than nearly city of Gangneung, announced the South Korean government Thursday.

The government and the 2018 Olympic organizing committee had discussed this week whether to renovate an existing sports stadium in Gangneung rather than build a new facility in Pyeongchang suitable for the ceremonies.

The culture ministry later released a statement saying "the venue for the opening and closing ceremonies of the games will be built in Pyeongchang. After the games, the relevant parties will discuss how to make use of the facility."

The new Pyeongchang venue will have a capacity of 40,000.

Xinhua

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/n/2014/1016/c90779-8795742.html

[runningrings]

Still annoyed that this isn't 'Gangneung 2018'.

[zekekelso]

Note to IOC... building a 40,000 seat stadium in the middle of nowhere that has no use, and you aren't going to even think about what to do with it unitl after the games?????

That's the kind of stuff that cities hate.

[Fox334]

I still wish they just used the Ski Jumping stadium for ceremonies. Would be both a nice cost saving measure and it would be a pretty old school move.

[binary]

Still annoyed that this isn't 'Gangneung 2018'.

Not to mention Gangneung has a stadium that could be easily expanded to 40k

[intoronto]

I still wish they just used the Ski Jumping stadium for ceremonies. Would be both a nice cost saving measure and it would be a pretty old school move.

The IOC actually objected to it because it thought it would impact ski jumpers practice times (which is ridiculous, considering the facility isn't used everyday).

I also thought the venue was to seat 50,000 and be a temporary facility (like Albertville).

[Fox334]

The IOC actually objected to it because it thought it would impact ski jumpers practice times (which is ridiculous, considering the facility isn't used everyday).

I also thought the venue was to seat 50,000 and be a temporary facility (like Albertville).

I mean gosh, there is how many days of competition at the Ski Jumping venue? Nine? You can even cut it down to eight if you double up the men's and women's normal hill qualification.

I agree with you, even if there where a couple of days blocked off there is no way the schedule couldn't be adjusted to make this work.

[Gold Coast Lions]

I mean gosh, there is how many days of competition at the Ski Jumping venue? Nine? You can even cut it down to eight if you double up the men's and women's normal hill qualification.

I agree with you, even if there where a couple of days blocked off there is no way the schedule couldn't be adjusted to make this work.

Day time for Athletes, Night time for ceremony rehearsal easy fix.

[Ikarus360]

Yeah, I also thought it was a ridiculous excuse to not do the show in the Ski Jumping venue. Lillehammer didn't had much issues doing it there. Even though the venue will be "temporary" i bet using the Ski jump venue would be much less expensive.