Your Sochi Verdict

[Lord David 222]

^^ Wait say what? Are we forgetting the Silver Annelise Coberger won in 1992?

[Scotguy 330]

^^ Wait say what? Are we forgetting the Silver Annelise Coberger won in 1992?

No, but NZ media have hailed it as their best ever games, not my words, but theirs.

[LOUIS 26]

It's amazing how ridiculously and unabashedly biased these threads have become.

[Quaker2001 1228]

These will end up being the most forgotten games sports wise...Yet be infamously paralleled with Berlin 1936 as a political monstrosity.

In that respect Russia has failed and will probably NEVER be allowed to host an Olympics again.

And don't put it past FIFA to move 2018 elsewhere if the Ukraine crisis blows up into full scale War.

Pretty sure Russia won't soon forget these games sports-wise. Neither will the Dutch, among other countries. And no, this Olympics isn't even close to what Hitler offered the world back in 1936. Yes, the aftermath of these Olympics will probably be defined what's going on in Ukraine, but don't let that take away from the Games themselves which went off better than most of the world gave them credit for and if nothing else served to mask the ongoing issues in Russia. Plus, "never" is a long time. It might be a while before they host again, for a number of reasons, but I doubt we've seen the last Olympics of this century in Russia.

And I would be shocked if 2018 was in jeopardy. If FIFA moves a future World Cup site, I would bet that it will NOT be Russia.

The US and its allies will be allowed to host an Olympics again after unleashing an illegal war in Iraq.

For the sake of accuracy here, the war against Iraq didn't start until 2003. It was the war in Afghanistan that began in the months before the Salt Lake Olympics in 2002.

It's amazing how ridiculously and unabashedly biased these threads have become.

Welcome to GamesBids. After you've been around here for awhile, you'll quickly learn this forum breeds those kinds of opinions. Pretty sure I know why that is, too, but I wouldn't say it out loud here.

[Tony E Loves Architecture 168]

The 2018 World Cup could possibly be moved, although I think there is more chance of the 2022 Fifa World Cup being moved.

[yoshi 323]

Why Quaker, why?

[Trylon 17]

Louis, I saw your post above and want to say that the photograph of Jesse Owens is just perfect. He has always been one of my heroes.

[Alexjc 354]

Louis, I saw your post above and want to say that the photograph of Jesse Owens is just perfect. He has always been one of my heroes.

...And yet the US government still tried to convict him in the 1960s for not paying his tax...West Germany stepped in and was about to hand over a cheque, suddenly the IRS dropped the charge...haaaa!

[baron-pierreIV 1682]

.West Germany stepped in and was about to hand over a cheque, suddenly the IRS dropped the charge...haaaa!

Well, yeah. The Germans had a guilty conscience to clear. Duh!!

[Olympian2004 511]

Well, yeah. The Germans had a guilty conscience to clear. Duh!!

I don't know. You probably forget that Jesse Owens was the hero of the spectators at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin and that they celebrated him, very much at the dislike of Hitler. So even if the Nazis didn't like seeing him winning, he apparently won the hearts of the ordinary Germans. And after the Berlin Games, Owens always told his wife that he had a great time back then in Berlin. Therefore, Germany always had a rather sentimental connection to Owens, and he apparently had one, too.

[JMarkSnow2012 385]

after the Berlin Games, Owens always told his wife that he had a great time back then in Berlin.

Certainly better than he initially had on his victory tour in the US.

[Rob. 2037]

A new Sochi verdict:

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Sample swapping described by IOC as one of the "worst ever blows against integrity and reputation of Olympic Games"

https://twitter.com/NickJMButler/status/935233348712222726

 

[Mainad 203]

On 19/03/2014 at 8:31 AM, JMarkSnow2012 said:

Certainly better than he initially had on his victory tour in the US.

I read that he was never received at the White House by President Roosevelt or even received a congratulatory telegram from him!

FDR is one of my favourite US presidents but I was always greatly disappointed in him for the way he ignored Owens!!

[JMarkSnow2012 385]

9 hours ago, Mainad said:

I read that he was never received at the White House by President Roosevelt or even received a congratulatory telegram from him!

FDR is one of my favourite US presidents but I was always greatly disappointed in him for the way he ignored Owens!!

US voters weren't ready for it then.

Mind you, there are still major problems ... http://www.nbc29.com/story/36947617/gerrymandering-documentary-viewing-informs-citizens-of-redistricting-issue

[Ikarus360 574]

I think very few if any Olympics can presume of having wrecked the reputation of the event, overall speaking, like Sochi. 

As if scaring many cities from hosting the games and making them one of the favorite thing to hate these days thanks to the extreme overspending of money they did wasn't enough, this whole Doping scandal is going to also bring down even further the reputation and credibility of the Olympics.

Many say the quality of the PC2018 games is going to get badly hurt if Russia is disqualified, but in all honesty i rather have one Olympic games having a downgrade than all of the Olympics to come, which is going to happen if the IOC doesn't gives a strong message that such a level of cheating can not be tolerated today, or ever.