Hatumai_XL 0 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 So today I was thinking about the Salt Lake City 2002 bid scandal and had a thought come to mind. I am not by any means saying what they did was okay or that I support it, but I would like your guys honest input. The bid scandal is a sore mark for SLC and the IOC, rightly so. But SLC really COULD (not saying they should) be appreciated for recognizing the problem. Let me explain. We all know that what SLC had done, all past cities had done. It was common practice, it was how the process worked. But SLC was the first city to admit it and say that it was not right. It was a SLC journalist who uncovered it and thought that it was unfair and that cities should be awarded the games based on their merit and not on bribes. SLC can be compared to a drug addict who admits to themselves that there is a problem. It is for this reason that I believe, possibly, that SLC should not be presented so much as the city who was involved in a bid scandal, but instead as the city that uncovered bid bribes. Also, it is not SLOC that should be appreciated, but the people of SLC because they felt it was not right and felt it was worth uncovering. SLOC was a part of the problem. The people were a possible solution to the problem. Again, what SLC and SLOC did was not right and deserves to be condemned. But is it not reasonable to recognize Salt Lake as a city and people who tried to expose a corrupt system? It is just a thought that I had and I am not sure how I feel about it. It would be nice to know the opinions of other olympic enthusiasts! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 The US Justice Department which initially brought charges against the 2 guys, dismissed the case against them. So, for the record, NOTHING illegal ever happened. It's UFO-conspiracists like you who keep bringing it up and reviving. Legally, it DIDN'T happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord David 225 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 And to think Quebec wanted the 12 million dollars they spent back! Quebec couldn't have possibly won on any accounts. Regardless if they had the mountain or not. They simply were bidding with old(er) venues when Salt Lake City was proposing brand spanking new ones. Who would you choose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1194 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Who would you choose? The used KIA of course. Who needs a new Beamer anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord David 225 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 But the used KIA came from the 40's and was "upgraded" in the mid 80's to meet NHL "standards". Not to mention that used KIA comes from a family of used "vehicles" which were supposedly to be expanded/upgraded as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympic Fan Darcy 321 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Or we could thank Marc Hodler... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eternalcobi 5 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Another reason why American/European greed is humanity's worst nightmare Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Another reason why American/European greed is humanity's worst nightmare But Asian, South American, African and Oceanic greed is fine? What a bizarre statement. Greed is bad -- I'll give you that. But I don't think it's terribly eye-opening to say so. It is common to all humanity -- just like deception, graft, pride, aggression, bitterness, jealousy, etc. Much as the Games celebrate humanity, humans can be absolutely horrible. Humans are humanity's biggest problem or "worst nightmare" as you put it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eternalcobi 5 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 But Asian, South American, African and Oceanic greed is fine? What a bizarre statement. Greed is bad -- I'll give you that. But I don't think it's terribly eye-opening to say so. It is common to all humanity -- just like deception, graft, pride, aggression, bitterness, jealousy, etc. Much as the Games celebrate humanity, humans can be absolutely horrible. Humans are humanity's biggest problem or "worst nightmare" as you put it. South American is fine as long they don't mess up with Northern Brazil African...they take by their own rules, and not of the rich countries up North. What they really matter, is the preservation of wildlife, and of the homo sapiens Oceanic (Basically Australia and New Zealand), they can survive, on the permanent absence of the US, and they have the toughest legislation to keep the Koala in peace And Asian...This is what happens if you keep your eyes glued to China, South korea, and Japan respectively. Chinese greed is criminalised in favour of the working class, South korean, eh..., Japanese, a big jump in technological advancements. They even have the MOSTLY FAIR Salary ratio of CEO's to Employees (4:1), in which the US sees it as their potential threat. Central and South Asian, they don't need some FILTHY AMERICANS to survive if they were meant to use human flesh as Wal Mart's raw materials After all, God DIDN'T create greed, Satan did, as a result of the Non-intentional biting of the "forbidden fruit" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony E Loves Architecture 168 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 South American is fine as long they don't mess up with Northern Brazil African...they take by their own rules, and not of the rich countries up North. What they really matter, is the preservation of wildlife, and of the homo sapiens Oceanic (Basically Australia and New Zealand), they can survive, on the permanent absence of the US, and they have the toughest legislation to keep the Koala in peace And Asian...This is what happens if you keep your eyes glued to China, South korea, and Japan respectively. Chinese greed is criminalised in favour of the working class, South korean, eh..., Japanese, a big jump in technological advancements. They even have the MOSTLY FAIR Salary ratio of CEO's to Employees (4:1), in which the US sees it as their potential threat. Central and South Asian, they don't need some FILTHY AMERICANS to survive if they were meant to use human flesh as Wal Mart's raw materials After all, God DIDN'T create greed, Satan did, as a result of the Non-intentional biting of the "forbidden fruit" I don't believe in God, I'm an atheist. Anyway, back to your point, it is harsh to point out certain locations as greed. There are criminals in all countries, there are nice people in all countries. It's harsh to say European and American greed. What's it got to do with the Salt Lake City scandal anyway? But the main thing is, most of us are nice people. We are finding solutions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eternalcobi 5 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Another reason for the scandal, they're too coward enough to afford another loss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr.bernham 384 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 ^ Every city has bribed the games, it's no secret. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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